Sola Scriptura: The Dividing Line.

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Sola Scriptura: The Dividing Line between the Orthodox and Evangelicals

by Trevin Wax

http:// trevinwax.com/2006/11/10/sola-scriptura-the-dividing-line-between-the-orthodox-and-evangelicals/

God bless us all. In Erie PA Scott R. Harrington May 2011 AD

 
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Sola Scriptura: The Dividing Line between the Orthodox and Evangelicals

by Trevin Wax

http:// trevinwax.com/2006/11/10/sola-scriptura-the-dividing-line-between-the-orthodox-and-evangelicals/

God bless us all. In Erie PA Scott R. Harrington May 2011 AD

More on the Filioque disorder in Western Christendom.
"The Second Council of Toledo of 447 adopted the canon: "The Father is unbegotten, the Son is begotten, and the Paraclete not begotten but proceeding from the Father and the Son." (Badcock, History of the Creeds, p. 216.). But at this time, while asserted against the Arian beliefs, the words were not added to the creed. The Council of 589 met when King Reccared became orthodox and brought the Goths of Spain into orthodoxy. He asked the council or synod to cite and anathematize the Arian heresies and to instruct the people. A general confession with twenty-three anathematisms was formulated, and the Filioque added to the creed. The confession declared:
1. If anyone still holds the doctrine and communion of the Arians, let him be anathema.
2. If anyone does not confess that the Son of God, our Lord Jesus Christ, is begotten of the substance of the Father without beginning, is like to and of one substance with the Father, let him be anathema.
3. If anyone does not believe that the Holy Ghost [Spirit[ proceedeth from the Father and the Son, and is coeternal with and like unto the Father and the Son, let him be anathema. ..." (page 120: The Foundations of Social Order: Studies in the Creeds and Councils of the Early Church. by Rousas John Rushdoony. Thoburn Pres, Fairfax, VA, 1978.).

God save us all from anathema three, for whosoever shall say that the Holy Spirit proceedeth from the Father and the Son, let him be anathema (see John 15:26!). Amen. In Erie PA Scott R. Harrington In Erie PA USA May 2011 AD

 
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Scott, interesting site.

But what is your point in the second post?

You obviously know that the Orthodox church broke it's connection to Rome mainly because it doesn't believe in the Filioque.

So the Orthodox tradition is in line with Scripture.

Are you getting your Catholics and Orthodox mixed up? Or have I misread what you meant?
 
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Scott, interesting site.

But what is your point in the second post?


You obviously know that the Orthodox church broke it's connection to Rome mainly because it doesn't believe in the Filioque.


So the Orthodox tradition is in line with Scripture.


Are you getting your Catholics and Orthodox mixed up? Or have I misread what you meant?

David, I was quoting from Rousas John Rushdoony, a Calvinist Presbyterian, who supports the Filioque in his Reformed tradition. I was just pointing out that while the councils of the Latin Roman western church considered anyone who rejects the Filioque to be anathema (cursed), the Eastern Orthodox Church considers anyone who accepts the Filioque to be anathema (cursed). I didn't get Catholics and Orthodox mixed up. I was quoting from the Catholic and Presbyterian view, which is in full error regarding the Filioque controversy. I am against the Filioque dogma. Because it contradicts our LORD Jesus Christ in St. John 15:26. LORD have mercy on us; Amen. In Erie PA USA May 2011 AD Scott R. Harrington
 
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Thanks for clarifying.

Sometimes posts on this forum confuse me as to their meaning.

Perhaps it's because y'all a bunch of strange foreigners.
 
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Thanks for clarifying.

Sometimes posts on this forum confuse me as to their meaning.

Perhaps it's because y'all a bunch of strange foreigners.
We're all. dear David, God's family, here, wherever on earth we are, we are not strange foreigners, although, being sinners, sometimes what we do is strange (cf. Romans 7). I do not always understand my own behavior; I am very human. All too human. Anyway, see Michael Harper (1999). A Faith Fulfilled: Why Christians In Great Britain Are Embracing Orthodoxy. Ben Lomond, CA: Conciliar Press. God bless you. This earth, this realm, this England: God bless England. And God bless America. And Russia. And the whole Christian world. In Erie PA Scott R. Harrington PS And oh, God bless Australia. I forgot, your flag is Australian, not British. Well, Australia was once part of England. Well, tie me kangaroo down, jack, sport!

 
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Sola Scriptura: The Dividing Line between the Orthodox and Evangelicals

by Trevin Wax

http:// trevinwax.com/2006/11/10/sola-scriptura-the-dividing-line-between-the-orthodox-and-evangelicals/

God bless us all. In Erie PA Scott R. Harrington May 2011 AD

A Rose by Any Other Name
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If you were to look up tradition or traditions in a concordance based on the NIV translation of the New Testament, you would find ten references: Matt. 15:2,3,6; Mark 7:3,5,8,9,13; Gal. 1:14; and Col. 2:8. In each case, tradition is presented in a negative light, as something opposed to the truth of God: For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men (Mark 7:8 KJV).
"In light of this, it is certainly not surprising that Evangelicals have a hard time finding anything positive to say about tradition. Most are completely unaware of the fact that in addition to the passages cited above, there are other passages in the New Testament in which tradition is mentioned in a positive light, where we are actually commanded to jeep the oral traditions hat have been handed over by the Apostles. Evangelicals are ignorant of these verses in part because of the overwhelming emphasis given to these verses cited above and in part because one of the most popular translations, the NIV, mistranslates three verses so that tradition never appears in a positive light in its pages."

(page 136: THE WAY: What Every Protestant Should Know About the Orthodox Church. by Clark Carlton. Copyright 1997, Regina Orthodox Press, Salisbury, MA).

In Erie PA USA Scott R. Harrington May 2011 AD