weeping and gnashing of teeth

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peterT

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God loves us so much that He lets us worship Him anyway we like.?

Lord you say me must worship you in spirit and truth, you must mean the way we see truth Lord, you must mean the way we feel truth the way we perceive truth Lord.

As long as we have Love Lord I don’t think you mind were we get the doctrine from, as long as we have Love Lord, because you Lord are the spirit of truth and the spirit of love.

Spirit of truth spirit of error what’s the diff Lord, as long as we have Love you don’t mind because you are love Lord.

Just because are doctrine is not quite biblical and it contains a few Jewish fables Lord you don’t mind because we have love Lord.

We as Christians have it all sorted down here Lord we know what makes us feel good and confidant Lord. So don’t send any scribes Lord or wise men Lord or prophets Lord because that just rocks the boat a little Lord and makes us feel, well well, uncomfortable Lord with are truth and worship for you.

You wouldn’t send anybody Lord because that’s not very loving Lord and you are a God of love Lord. and if someone came in your name Lord we would sort them right out and tell them that its not very loving and its qite upsetting and it can’t be of you Lord, because you are the God of love.

If someone came in your name Lord they would have to like are doctrine and the way we worship you Lord because we worship you with style Lord with colour Lord with verity.

And when you come and get us lord, there will be lots of different fruits that we have created for you Lord. Verity and colour is what we are thinking this season Lord.

If we all read the bible day and night Lord we would be all the same Lord and worship you in the same way and that’s not what we have mind for you this season Lord.
If we all read the Bible day and night Lord then we would all get united and worship you is spirit and your truth. And that just would not do Lord because Verity and colour is what we are thinking this season Lord.

There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth
 

VW

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Doctrine does not provide our love for Jesus and each other.

This love comes only from the Holy Spirit.

This is not to say that doctrines are not important. They are truths that lead us to the living Truth. Doctrines help us to understand in a small way just who we are approaching in worship. What doctrines cannot do is make us know Him personally.

We can never become united by doctrine. We are united by the working of the Holy Spirit, by whom we have our birth as God's children, and through whom we receive the love of God that it might be shed abroad from our hearts.

God is love. Our unity is love. Love comes by the Holy Spirit.
 

zone

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God loves us so much that He lets us worship Him anyway we like.?

Lord you say me must worship you in spirit and truth, you must mean the way we see truth Lord, you must mean the way we feel truth the way we perceive truth Lord.

As long as we have Love Lord I don’t think you mind were we get the doctrine from, as long as we have Love Lord, because you Lord are the spirit of truth and the spirit of love.

Spirit of truth spirit of error what’s the diff Lord, as long as we have Love you don’t mind because you are love Lord.

Just because are doctrine is not quite biblical and it contains a few Jewish fables Lord you don’t mind because we have love Lord.

We as Christians have it all sorted down here Lord we know what makes us feel good and confidant Lord. So don’t send any scribes Lord or wise men Lord or prophets Lord because that just rocks the boat a little Lord and makes us feel, well well, uncomfortable Lord with are truth and worship for you.

You wouldn’t send anybody Lord because that’s not very loving Lord and you are a God of love Lord. and if someone came in your name Lord we would sort them right out and tell them that its not very loving and its qite upsetting and it can’t be of you Lord, because you are the God of love.

If someone came in your name Lord they would have to like are doctrine and the way we worship you Lord because we worship you with style Lord with colour Lord with verity.

And when you come and get us lord, there will be lots of different fruits that we have created for you Lord. Verity and colour is what we are thinking this season Lord.

If we all read the bible day and night Lord we would be all the same Lord and worship you in the same way and that’s not what we have mind for you this season Lord.
If we all read the Bible day and night Lord then we would all get united and worship you is spirit and your truth. And that just would not do Lord because Verity and colour is what we are thinking this season Lord.

There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth
well, if He actually sent one that spoke truth and it verified what He already said, we might listen (even though there are NO MORE PROPHETS)

but instead we got a bunch of self-appointed doom and gloomers (the "chosen") who have no clue what they're talking about.

one poster in particular should follow his own advice and go read scripture and get sound doctrine because currently he is speaking out of his own darkened heart and sinful mind.

maybe had too much pepperoni last night.

the proof is that he thinks The Lord sent him to say these things.

HO HUM
 

zone

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Doctrine does not provide our love for Jesus and each other.

This love comes only from the Holy Spirit.

This is not to say that doctrines are not important. They are truths that lead us to the living Truth. Doctrines help us to understand in a small way just who we are approaching in worship. What doctrines cannot do is make us know Him personally.

We can never become united by doctrine. We are united by the working of the Holy Spirit, by whom we have our birth as God's children, and through whom we receive the love of God that it might be shed abroad from our hearts.

God is love. Our unity is love. Love comes by the Holy Spirit.
where do you get off acting like you love the Lord or His people?
you're willing to LIE, and use His Name to deceive people into believing you are His prophet.

you do not know HIM....if you did, you would have publically repented for your blasphemy.
but you are an unrepentent 'emergent' NAR false prophet and i am against you.



Jude 1:3
Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt I had to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints.

Prophet VW 1:3
Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the doctrine that doesn't unite us, I felt I had to write and urge you not to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints. rather, to listen for a voice and just be united in love. it doesn't matter what the faith is.

2 Timothy 4:3
For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.

Prophet VW 4:3
For the time will come when men will insist on sound doctrine. Instead, to suit our own desires, we should gather around us a great number of prophets to say what our itching ears want to hear.
 
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Anyone who says the WordofGodandtheHolySpirit can be divided is lying. Jesus came to bring a sword for that purpose. Liars are always wanting a group hug. But then we dont expect him to come in a red suit and horns.
 
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AnandaHya

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maybe a red suit and a bag of giifts with a team of horned reindeer?
 
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peterT

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well, if He actually sent one that spoke truth and it verified what He already said, we might listen (even though there are NO MORE PROPHETS)

but instead we got a bunch of self-appointed doom and gloomers (the "chosen") who have no clue what they're talking about.

one poster in particular should follow his own advice and go read scripture and get sound doctrine because currently he is speaking out of his own darkened heart and sinful mind.

maybe had too much pepperoni last night.

the proof is that he thinks The Lord sent him to say these things.

HO HUM
even though there are NO MORE PROPHETS

As David said and Paul said.

O retched men that I am.

I am but a worm.

I am a scribe at best if even that.

Romans 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
Psalms 22:6 But I [am] a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.
 

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Anyone who says the WordofGodandtheHolySpirit can be divided is lying. Jesus came to bring a sword for that purpose. Liars are always wanting a group hug. But then we dont expect him to come in a red suit and horns.
Many centuries ago, in the name of the word of God, we saw the Crusades. Not long after, we saw the cleansing of the church by something called the Inquisition. Men acting in the reason of the written word of God never do the will of God. Never.

The only way to do the will of God is to abide in, to live in Jesus. Period.

If you don't believe this, if you don't follow this and live this, then you have denied the Holy Spirit.
 

VW

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It should be remembered that the men who turned Jesus over to be crucified were acting in the reason of the written word of God. Oh, they were wrong in their use of scripture, for certain. But they used scripture all the same to condemn Jesus. Jesus broke the Sabbath. For this He must die.
 

zone

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Many centuries ago, in the name of the word of God, we saw the Crusades. Not long after, we saw the cleansing of the church by something called the Inquisition.

Men acting in the reason of the written word of God never do the will of God. Never.

The only way to do the will of God is to abide in, to live in Jesus. Period.

If you don't believe this, if you don't follow this and live this, then you have denied the Holy Spirit.
Jeremiah 29:9
They are prophesying lies to you in my name. I have not sent them," declares the LORD.
 

zone

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It should be remembered that the men who turned Jesus over to be crucified were acting in the reason of the written word of God. Oh, they were wrong in their use of scripture, for certain. But they used scripture all the same to condemn Jesus. Jesus broke the Sabbath. For this He must die.
aaawww....poor persecuted false prophet VW.
comparing yourself to Jesus.
 
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peterT

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(even though there are NO MORE PROPHETS)
To say there are no more prophets is not scriptural and probably just a Jewish fable.

And To reach the title of being a prophet according to Jesus one needs to be persecuted.

Because Jesus said.

Matthew 5:11 Blessed are ye, when [men] shall revile you, and persecute [you], and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great [is] your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.




And To reach the title of being a prophet according to Moses one must just prophesize.

And Moses Said.

Numbers 11 27 And there ran a young man, and told Moses, and said, Eldad and Medad do prophesy in the camp.28 And Joshua the son of Nun, the servant of Moses, [one] of his young men, answered and said, My lord Moses, forbid them.29 And Moses said unto him, Enviest thou for my sake? would God that all the LORD'S people were prophets, [and] that the LORD would put his spirit upon them!

There is no significant new prophets in the NT bar the two end time prophets in Rev11

But anyone that prophesize is a prophet and anyone that receives persecution for their witnessing is a prophet.

To say there are no new prophets is not just not scriptural but disheartening to the brethren that have a prophecy, because they would feel that they are a false prophet .
 

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People are rightfully afraid of there being prophets. A prophet can and will disclose the secrets of the heart of those who have not drawn near to God. A prophet walks in the power of the Holy Spirit, calling all of the children of God to walk in the Holy Spirit.

Those who deny the power of God to heal and to lead and to teach and to draw us into fellowship with God, also deny God Himself.

I pray for the day when all of the people of God would in the power of the Holy Spirit.

God's will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.
 
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1still_waters

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Anyone who says the WordofGodandtheHolySpirit can be divided is lying. Jesus came to bring a sword for that purpose. Liars are always wanting a group hug. But then we dont expect him to come in a red suit and horns.
Good point. These people who want to POOH all over the word of God, all in the name of 'following the spirit', as they rely more on their conceited, self revelations that they hold above God's word, well their fate is spelled out pretty clearly in the Bible.
 

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Once, there was a people who called themselves by the name of God. They did this in the belief that because they held the oracles of God in their hand, and defended this oracle with all their strength, and gathered together with others who believed as they did, that they were pleasing to God, and doing His will. God looked at this people with wonder, and asked Himself, "What must I do to show them that I love them, and that I want them to draw near to Me to be My children? I know, I will send My servants to them to explain and beg this people to come to Me." And so God did this, and sent His servants to this people, asking that they just look simply at God Himself, and see that He is good.

But this people did not listen, and the mistreated God's servants, calling them liars. In the end, God gave this people over to the lusts of their flesh, that they might be destroyed. Is it any wonder that God was angry with this people?

In scripture, it is written that the children of God are lead by the Spirit. And yet, we read that following the Spirit is is opposition to the bible, from even a moderator, and that anyone who relies on the Spirit of God is conceited.

Yes, my fate is spelled out in scripture. So is yours.

In Christ,
 
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AnandaHya

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shhhh.... we aren't suppose to say the O-word....


Jeremiah 23:35-40
New King James Version (NKJV)
35 Thus every one of you shall say to his neighbor, and every one to his brother, ‘What has the LORD answered?’ and, ‘What has the LORD spoken?’ 36 And the oracle of the LORD you shall mention no more. For every man’s word will be his oracle, for you have perverted the words of the living God, the LORD of hosts, our God. 37 Thus you shall say to the prophet, ‘What has the LORD answered you?’ and, ‘What has the LORD spoken?’ 38 But since you say, ‘The oracle of the LORD!’ therefore thus says the LORD: ‘Because you say this word, “The oracle of the LORD!” and I have sent to you, saying, “Do not say, ‘The oracle of the LORD!’” 39 therefore behold, I, even I, will utterly forget you and forsake you, and the city that I gave you and your fathers, and will cast you out of My presence. 40 And I will bring an everlasting reproach upon you, and a perpetual shame, which shall not be forgotten.’”
 

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People are rightfully afraid of there being prophets. A prophet can and will disclose the secrets of the heart of those who have not drawn near to God. A prophet walks in the power of the Holy Spirit, calling all of the children of God to walk in the Holy Spirit.

Those who deny the power of God to heal and to lead and to teach and to draw us into fellowship with God, also deny God Himself.

I pray for the day when all of the people of God would in the power of the Holy Spirit.

God's will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.
puffed-up much?
 

zone

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Once, there was a people who called themselves by the name of God. They did this in the belief that because they held the oracles of God in their hand, and defended this oracle with all their strength, and gathered together with others who believed as they did, that they were pleasing to God, and doing His will. God looked at this people with wonder, and asked Himself, "What must I do to show them that I love them, and that I want them to draw near to Me to be My children? I know, I will send My servants to them to explain and beg this people to come to Me." And so God did this, and sent His servants to this people, asking that they just look simply at God Himself, and see that He is good.

But this people did not listen, and the mistreated God's servants, calling them liars. In the end, God gave this people over to the lusts of their flesh, that they might be destroyed. Is it any wonder that God was angry with this people?

In scripture, it is written that the children of God are lead by the Spirit. And yet, we read that following the Spirit is is opposition to the bible, from even a moderator, and that anyone who relies on the Spirit of God is conceited.

Yes, my fate is spelled out in scripture. So is yours.

In Christ,
see the delusion grow deeper and deeper....i hope everyone tempted to want a place among this NEW BREED is seeing what happens: it's quite disturbing.

are you eating wild locusts and honey yet VW?
 
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VW
this baffles me...i tried to write a responce...but all i can say is this would be a good time to rethink things.
 

VW

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VW
this baffles me...i tried to write a responce...but all i can say is this would be a good time to rethink things.
Yes, I agree.

I suggest reading the parables of Jesus again. The landowner and the vineyard owner especially.

In Christ