THE GARDEN OF EDEN
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5 Now no shrub had yet appeared on the earth and no plant had yet sprung up, for the LORD God had not sent rain on the earth and there was no one to work the ground, 6 but streams came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground. 7 Then the LORD God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.
8 Now the LORD God had planted a garden in the east, in Eden; and there he put the man he had formed.
Somewhere on earth.
8 Now the LORD God had planted a garden in the east, in Eden; and there he put the man he had formed.
Somewhere on earth.
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Thanks for that Phil. That narrows it down! I wonder why he didn't form Adam in Eden?[/quote]
He formed Adam In the palm of His hands. He could have been standing on the ground; He could have been hovering in the air; He could have been sitting on a cloud; He could have been in His studio in heaven while creating Adam.
Perhaps the question should be 'where did God get the dust from?' Perhaps He got the dust from the garden of Eden.
He formed Adam In the palm of His hands. He could have been standing on the ground; He could have been hovering in the air; He could have been sitting on a cloud; He could have been in His studio in heaven while creating Adam.
Perhaps the question should be 'where did God get the dust from?' Perhaps He got the dust from the garden of Eden.
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Thanks for that. It looks more like he did not use the dust from the Garden of Eden, but formed them somewhere else and then took them and placed them into the garden.
Whenever God talks about north, west , south & east, he always refers the direction from Jerusalem. The city Jerusalem did not exist then, but the actual ground did. So the Garden of Eden was East of Jerusalem. (Eastwood > > > > in Eden)
So this brings me to wonder. Maybe the dust God used to form man was actually in Jerusalem? because he took Adam east.....God choose Jerusalem right from the beginning didn't he. That very ground.
Now this leads to my next question.
Why did God not make the Garden of Eden in Jerusalem? I mean this was paradise wasn't it? God's chosen place.
Can anyone see the reasoning behind it?
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Thanks for that. It looks more like he did not use the dust from the Garden of Eden, but formed them somewhere else and then took them and placed them into the garden.
Whenever God talks about north, west , south & east, he always refers the direction from Jerusalem. The city Jerusalem did not exist then, but the actual ground did. So the Garden of Eden was East of Jerusalem. (Eastwood > > > > in Eden)
So this brings me to wonder. Maybe the dust God used to form man was actually in Jerusalem? because he took Adam east.....God choose Jerusalem right from the beginning didn't he. That very ground.
Now this leads to my next question.
Why did God not make the Garden of Eden in Jerusalem? I mean this was paradise wasn't it? God's chosen place.
Can anyone see the reasoning behind it?
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[/quote]Thanks your input Vinifera. It looks to me more like God did not use the dust from the Garden of Eden, but formed them somewhere else and then took them and placed them into the garden.
Whenever God talks about north, west , south & east, he always refers the direction from Jerusalem. The city Jerusalem did not exist then, but the actual ground did. So the Garden of Eden was East of Jerusalem. (Eastwood > > > > in Eden)
So this brings me to wonder. Maybe the dust God used to form man was actually in Jerusalem? because he took Adam east.....God choose Jerusalem right from the beginning didn't he. That very ground.
Now this leads to my next question.
Why did God not make the Garden of Eden in Jerusalem? I mean, the garden was paradise wasn't it? And God's chosen place is Jerusalem? Wouldn't the two go together?
Can anyone see the reasoning behind it?
[/quote]Thanks your input Vinifera. It looks to me more like God did not use the dust from the Garden of Eden, but formed them somewhere else and then took them and placed them into the garden.
Whenever God talks about north, west , south & east, he always refers the direction from Jerusalem. The city Jerusalem did not exist then, but the actual ground did. So the Garden of Eden was East of Jerusalem. (Eastwood > > > > in Eden)
So this brings me to wonder. Maybe the dust God used to form man was actually in Jerusalem? because he took Adam east.....God choose Jerusalem right from the beginning didn't he. That very ground.
Now this leads to my next question.
Why did God not make the Garden of Eden in Jerusalem? I mean, the garden was paradise wasn't it? And God's chosen place is Jerusalem? Wouldn't the two go together?
Can anyone see the reasoning behind it?
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Genesis 2
8 The LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden, and there He put the man whom He had formed. 9 And out of the ground the LORD God made every tree grow that is pleasant to the sight and good for food. The tree of life was also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
10 Now a river went out of Eden to water the garden, and from there it parted and became four riverheads. 11 The name of the first is Pishon; it is the one which skirts the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold. 12 And the gold of that land is good. Bdellium and the onyx stone are there. 13 The name of the second river is Gihon; it is the one which goes around the whole land of Cush. 14 The name of the third river is Hiddekel; it is the one which goes toward the east of Assyria. The fourth river is the Euphrates.
Revelation 21
10 And he carried me away in the Spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me the great city, the holy[h] Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, 11 having the glory of God.
Revelation 2:7
“He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes I will give to eat from the tree of life, which is in the midst of the Paradise of God.”’
Revelation 22:2
In the middle of its street, and on either side of the river, was the tree of life, which bore twelve fruits, each tree yielding its fruit every month. The leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
Revelation 22:14
Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.
mmm wonder if two different rivers can have the same name? now where is the tree of life located?
Genesis 3
22 Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”— 23 therefore the LORD God sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground from which he was taken. 24 So He drove out the man; and He placed cherubim at the east of the garden of Eden, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way to the tree of life.
8 The LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden, and there He put the man whom He had formed. 9 And out of the ground the LORD God made every tree grow that is pleasant to the sight and good for food. The tree of life was also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
10 Now a river went out of Eden to water the garden, and from there it parted and became four riverheads. 11 The name of the first is Pishon; it is the one which skirts the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold. 12 And the gold of that land is good. Bdellium and the onyx stone are there. 13 The name of the second river is Gihon; it is the one which goes around the whole land of Cush. 14 The name of the third river is Hiddekel; it is the one which goes toward the east of Assyria. The fourth river is the Euphrates.
Revelation 21
10 And he carried me away in the Spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me the great city, the holy[h] Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, 11 having the glory of God.
Revelation 2:7
“He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes I will give to eat from the tree of life, which is in the midst of the Paradise of God.”’
Revelation 22:2
In the middle of its street, and on either side of the river, was the tree of life, which bore twelve fruits, each tree yielding its fruit every month. The leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
Revelation 22:14
Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.
mmm wonder if two different rivers can have the same name? now where is the tree of life located?
Genesis 3
22 Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”— 23 therefore the LORD God sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground from which he was taken. 24 So He drove out the man; and He placed cherubim at the east of the garden of Eden, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way to the tree of life.
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I always thought it was in Heaven and that the rivers in the Middle east are just reflections of the Heavenly realm. Like how to build the temple, altar and stuff told to Moses are reflections of what was seen by John in Revelations.
Don't know why people want to worship a place and not God...
how can it be in Iraq?
The Bible never said the Garden was destroyed, just that Adam and Eve were casted out and that A Cherubim and Sword guarded the entrance. do we see this anywhere in Iraq?
Since we know God is Spirit why wouldn't Eden be in the Spiritual/ Heavenly Realm?
Don't know why people want to worship a place and not God...
how can it be in Iraq?
The Bible never said the Garden was destroyed, just that Adam and Eve were casted out and that A Cherubim and Sword guarded the entrance. do we see this anywhere in Iraq?
Since we know God is Spirit why wouldn't Eden be in the Spiritual/ Heavenly Realm?
Are we talking about the same thing here Ananda?
You asked me where I thought the Garden of Eden is? The area man thinks it's in .. is called Iraq now, ex Babylon, ex whatever. No one knows exactly where it is, but scripture gives us a clue. It's not important, but it's interesting.
If you are talking about the tree of life, yes thats the Word of God and is symbolic.
What I'm asking is ....why would God form Adam and Eve and take them east from Jerusalem? It's pretty Obvious they were formed in Jerusalem, but the Garden is eastwood in Eden. The Garden is not in Jerusalem but is Eastwood >>>from Jerusalem. I suppose we can look at a map and see where that river parts into four and what land it covers? but that is beside the point.
Ps, The Garden would of been destroyed in the flood.
You asked me where I thought the Garden of Eden is? The area man thinks it's in .. is called Iraq now, ex Babylon, ex whatever. No one knows exactly where it is, but scripture gives us a clue. It's not important, but it's interesting.
If you are talking about the tree of life, yes thats the Word of God and is symbolic.
What I'm asking is ....why would God form Adam and Eve and take them east from Jerusalem? It's pretty Obvious they were formed in Jerusalem, but the Garden is eastwood in Eden. The Garden is not in Jerusalem but is Eastwood >>>from Jerusalem. I suppose we can look at a map and see where that river parts into four and what land it covers? but that is beside the point.
Ps, The Garden would of been destroyed in the flood.
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where is the tree of life located if not in Eden? why did God send Adam and Eve OUT of Eden?
Genesis 3
22 Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”— 23 therefore the LORD God sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground from which he was taken. 24 So He drove out the man; and He placed cherubim at the east of the garden of Eden, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way to the tree of life.
It is vital to understand the location of Eden if it is NOT on the Earth as most of humanity likes to teach.
where does it say Eden was destroyed in the flood?
why is the tree of life symbolic but Adam and Eve and God and the garden of Eden is not?
How are you allowed in to eat of the Tree of life?
through the Gate who is Jesus Christ because He died for the remission of our sins and to grant us that honor.
Genesis 3
22 Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”— 23 therefore the LORD God sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground from which he was taken. 24 So He drove out the man; and He placed cherubim at the east of the garden of Eden, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way to the tree of life.
It is vital to understand the location of Eden if it is NOT on the Earth as most of humanity likes to teach.
where does it say Eden was destroyed in the flood?
why is the tree of life symbolic but Adam and Eve and God and the garden of Eden is not?
How are you allowed in to eat of the Tree of life?
through the Gate who is Jesus Christ because He died for the remission of our sins and to grant us that honor.
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Thanks for that Phil. That narrows it down! I wonder why he didn't form Adam in Eden?[/quote]
Hi Journey,
It narrows it down to really as much as we know. we don't know for it does not say.
1 Corinthians 15:47
47 The first man was from the earth, a man of dust; the second man is from heaven.
It may have been int he region of Mesopotamia, however, just because we thinkt hat the garden was there it does not mean the dust of the earth was from that region...?
Hi Journey,
It narrows it down to really as much as we know. we don't know for it does not say.
1 Corinthians 15:47
47 The first man was from the earth, a man of dust; the second man is from heaven.
It may have been int he region of Mesopotamia, however, just because we thinkt hat the garden was there it does not mean the dust of the earth was from that region...?
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If God can move a large city from heaven to earth in Revelation 21 then He can move a garden from earth to heaven probably before the flood
Genesis 7:23
(23) And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.
Genesis 2:9
(9) And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
Revelation 22:14
(14) Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Genesis 7:23
(23) And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.
Genesis 2:9
(9) And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
Revelation 22:14
(14) Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.