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Please show me the truth, perhaps in an excerpt? I've heard numerous stories and accusations but all I want is the passage, not an argument.
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Please show me the truth, perhaps in an excerpt? I've heard numerous stories and accusations but all I want is the passage, not an argument.
Hello relative Stars, How are you? Not to be rude, please, I know that text isnt the best way to convey emotion and tonality of voice.

You are on the internet, and have EVERY translation at your fingertips. You have every ones opinion at your fingertips, and comentaries .

You also have the chance to humble yourself before the living God, and ask Jesus christ to wash you clean of your sins and the world, and to be YOUR LORD, and show you all truth through the Holy Spirit.

You asked to Show you Truth? Jesus Christ. HE is Truth. Seek to know him. Be taught by HIM. that is the only TRUE way to get the TRUE answer on any question you have.

I hope you enjoy your time here.

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Leviticus 20:13...If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.


Leviticus 18:22...22Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.


Romans 1:24-27...24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

1 Corinthians 6:9....1 Corinthians 6:9
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

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Please show me the truth, perhaps in an excerpt? I've heard numerous stories and accusations but all I want is the passage, not an argument.
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. (1 Corinthans 6:9-10)

26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due. (Romans 1:26-27)

22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination. (Leviticus 18:22)

13 If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them. (Leviticus 20:13)
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I say with a certainty that even homosexuals will all praise God in victory. All men are saved but who can believe our report?
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I say with a certainty that even homosexuals will all praise God in victory. All men are saved but who can believe our report?
hi israel.
long time no talk.
friend, i care for you and enjoy seeing you here. but israel, we can not just spiritualize everything in scripture so we can continue in sinful ways.

i had to repent (metanoia), change my mind about my drug addictions and drunkeness...sex outside of marriage: all that.

i still sin sometimes (smaller stuff but hurts the conscience worse now).....we really do have to take God at His word concerning sin, particularly the ones He lists that He hates intensely (drugs is one, it's like witchcraft). homosexuality is another. we really really do have to fight and try to overcome these things....to our last breath.

we can not just say, like the gnostics that the spirit is pure now, but the flesh doesn't matter so i can fulfill it's lusts with impunity.

i really don't see that in the Bible.

we aren't perfect, and we fail, and are tempted: but He has Graciously given us repentence, confession, prayer and forgiveness...but we must change our minds about what sin really is.

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hi israel.
long time no talk.
friend, i care for you and enjoy seeing you here. but israel, we can not just spiritualize everything in scripture so we can continue in sinful ways.

i had to repent (metanoia), change my mind about my drug addictions and drunkeness...sex outside of marriage: all that.

i still sin sometimes (smaller stuff but hurts the conscience worse now).....we really do have to take God at His word concerning sin, particularly the ones He lists that He hates intensely (drugs is one, it's like witchcraft). homosexuality is another. we really really do have to fight and try to overcome these things....to our last breath.

we can not just say, like the gnostics that the spirit is pure now, but the flesh doesn't matter so i can fulfill it's lusts with impunity.

i really don't see that in the Bible.

we aren't perfect, and we fail, and are tempted: but He has Graciously given us repentence, confession, prayer and forgiveness...but we must change our minds about what sin really is.

love zone.
Beloved of God, we must understand what sin is inorder to call it sin.

Romans 14:20-23


20For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence.
21It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.
22Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth. 23And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.


Faith is the substance of things hoped for. Hope that is seen is not hope at all. Everyone of us can SEE that it is not natural for a man to be with a man and a woman with a woman. For the many of us who can see this though, is that then considered hope for us?

In the beginning, God gave us all things freely. I had posted this on another thread, but maybe you would like to ponder these questions I posed.

Ephesians 4:4-7

4There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;


5One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. 7But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.


Everyone gets a measure of bread. Again, we as a people CONTINUE only to devour o quoting verses condemning eachother.

When a miracle of some sort is performed in the name of Allah or Buddha, who do you believe is behind it?

Do you believe that the Bible is the perfect word of God and does not contradict itself?

If so, as most believe this, then how do you see these as?

Ecclesiastes 7:16-17


16Be not righteous over much; neither make thyself over wise: why shouldest thou destroy thyself ? 17Be not over much wicked, neither be thou foolish: why shouldest thou die before thy time?

1 John 3:8-9


8He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 9Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

1 John 1:8

8If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

The Bible says to be not over much righteousness OR much wickedness. It says that ANYONE who commits sin is OF THE DEVIL. It also states that those who are born of God COMMITS NO SIN.

How can we be righteous and wicked at the same time? We all have sinned, so are we all of the devil? And how is it possible for those that are born of God to not only commit any sin, but CANNOT sin if all have sinned?

If we truly understand the story told to us in Exodus 16, we will begin to fully see the picture.


You believe that I spiritualize everthing too much. I believe now that it is ONLY in the Spirit that we will leave this vanity and confusion behind.

I would like to know zone, based off how most see the Bible, who is Lucifer and how will he die?
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man what's going on in CC or the world? every day I see a post here having something to do with homosexuality.
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Beloved of God, we must understand what sin is in order to call it sin.
How can we be righteous and wicked at the same time? We all have sinned, so are we all of the devil? And how is it possible for those that are born of God to not only commit any sin, but CANNOT sin if all have sinned?
You do not understand something so simple? You see we are spiritual beings but live in a fleshly body that is corrupted by the sin of the first Adam. Satan can attack us through the weakness of our flesh (lust of the eyes for example)... can cause diseases ... even mental diseases like bi-polar mania. When we invite Christ into our body to share our temple with Him ... things change little by little as we yield more to His will. Our flesh is at constant war with our spirit ... many times we may fall into sin because we are still weak in our faith. But when we fall, He is there to pick us up and will forgive us if we repent. How many times does He forgive ... well what did Jesus say how many times we should forgive others for their sins against us...wasnt it 70 times 7? Anyway our sinful flesh belongs to the devil, but when we repent of our sin we place ownership of our spirit in God's hands. We are not righteous but dispicably wicked ... we are only seen as righteous by God because the Spirit of Christ lives in us and is slowly changing us into His likeness. Wow ... u mean u didnt know that???????

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You do not understand something so simple? You see we are spiritual beings but live in a fleshly body that is corrupted by the sin of the first Adam. Satan can attack us through the weakness of our flesh (lust of the eyes for example)... can cause diseases ... even mental diseases like bi-polar mania. When we invite Christ into our body to share our temple with Him ... things change little by little as we yield more to His will. Our flesh is at constant war with our spirit ... many times we may fall into sin because we are still weak in our faith. But when we fall, He is there to pick us up and will forgive us if we repent. How many times does He forgive ... well what did Jesus say how many times we should forgive others for their sins against us...wasnt it 70 times 7? Anyway our sinful flesh belongs to the devil, but when we repent of our sin we place ownership of our spirit in God's hands. We are not righteous but dispicably wicked ... we are only seen as righteous by God because the Spirit of Christ lives in us and is slowly changing us into His likeness. Wow ... u mean u didnt know that???????
So do you see a gay man burning in hell for all of eternity? Simple yes or no will do.
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man what's going on in CC or the world? every day I see a post here having something to do with homosexuality.

Well ... many many years ago God revealed to me that gay marriages would be legalized and that the gay culture would be accepted as an alternate lifestyle ... this was about 35 years ago when gays were still shunned by society. Just as in the case of abortion and the growing world catastrophese like major earthquakes, hurricanes and the like this is all a precursor to Christ's return. How soon? Well if what I have been hearing from several churches in the area ... very soon. Many of their congregation have been visited by angels saying that Jesus will be returning soon and to be ready. If your ready you have nothing to worry about ... but think the ride will be a bumpy one regardless. I live in Canada where allot the worlds fresh water resides ... so this comet called wormwood .... have some concerns Canada may be the target. Just hope I am taken home before things get worse .... but will ride the storm if I have to, for as long as I have to. I mean all they can do is kill the flesh right ... which is corrupt anyway ... my spirit will live on in glory.
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So do you see a gay man burning in hell for all of eternity? Simple yes or no will do.
Well if the thousands who lived in Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed with fire and brimstone by God and nearly the whole tribe of Benjamin wiped out all due to the fact they were gay ... I guess God must hate this sin allot ... so yea ... unless a gay person does not repent of this wickedness ... he or she will burn in hell for eternity, as will most of humanity. If you have a problem with that ...take it up with HOLY God and good luck.
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1 Corinthians 6:9....1 Corinthians 6:9
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

deffinition of the word emmeminate...: having feminine qualities untypical of a man : not manly in appearance or manner
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I have a real problem with this. Some men, purposely act like women, but some do not. I grew up with a guy who had more girlfriends than me, but we always teased him as being gay because he made even the most womanly gay man seem macho. His manorisms, his talk, his physical ablilites. He was born that way, and not his choice. My opinoin is that whoever wrote that had a problem with it and it is not God's opinion. We were also told not to eat the swine, but as it was explained to me by a chuch pastor that the reason that was said was because of no way to preserve the meat. In other words, more or less a life lesson for the day and does not apply to us today. Please explain this to me if u can.
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1 Corinthians 6:9....1 Corinthians 6:9
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

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I have a real problem with this. Some men, purposely act like women, but some do not. I grew up with a guy who had more girlfriends than me, but we always teased him as being gay because he made even the most womanly gay man seem macho. His manorisms, his talk, his physical ablilites. He was born that way, and not his choice. My opinoin is that whoever wrote that had a problem with it and it is not God's opinion. We were also told not to eat the swine, but as it was explained to me by a chuch pastor that the reason that was said was because of no way to preserve the meat. In other words, more or less a life lesson for the day and does not apply to us today. Please explain this to me if u can.
Yes, but what flesh and blood DOES the Bible say will inherit the kingdom God? We all have sinned therefore no flesh and blood by anymeans will enter into the kingdom of God.

True repentence is in understanding that no matter how good I think I am, I deserve the same death as the man who decided to be as wicked as he could. In seeing this great condemnation, we must awe at what Jesus means in His death. For we will all rise with Him in glory.

It's all or none with God as He truly does not play favorites. He is our Father. Have we all not but ONE Father? Has not one God created us all?
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1 Corinthians 6:9....1 Corinthians 6:9
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

deffinition of the word emmeminate...: having feminine qualities untypical of a man : not manly in appearance or manner
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: marked by an unbecoming delicacy or overrefinement


I have a real problem with this. Some men, purposely act like women, but some do not. I grew up with a guy who had more girlfriends than me, but we always teased him as being gay because he made even the most womanly gay man seem macho. His manorisms, his talk, his physical ablilites. He was born that way, and not his choice. My opinoin is that whoever wrote that had a problem with it and it is not God's opinion. We were also told not to eat the swine, but as it was explained to me by a chuch pastor that the reason that was said was because of no way to preserve the meat. In other words, more or less a life lesson for the day and does not apply to us today. Please explain this to me if u can.
Well I always like to check other translations...for example the NKJ renders it this way: " Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God." The word catamites is rendered as homosexuals. The word catamites is the plural form of catamite. A catamite is a boy involved in a sexual relationship with an older man. A sodomite is one who practices sodomy which is is an anal or other copulation-like act, especially between male persons or between human beings and animals. The NIV reders it this way... "Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God." It is a good idea to check several translations...including the orignal Greek text to get a clearer understanding of what a verse or passage in the bible is actually saying. There is no question though if you check the original Greek that homosexuality is implied.
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Please show me the truth, perhaps in an excerpt? I've heard numerous stories and accusations but all I want is the passage, not an argument.
Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hinder the truth in unrighteousness;
Rom 1:19 because that which is known of God is manifest in them; for God manifested it unto them.
Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him since the creation of the world are clearly seen, being perceived through the things that are made, even his everlasting power and divinity; that they may be without excuse:
Rom 1:21 because that, knowing God, they glorified him not as God, neither gave thanks; but became vain in their reasonings, and their senseless heart was darkened.
Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Rom 1:23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God for the likeness of an image of corruptible man, and of birds, and four-footed beasts, and creeping things.
Rom 1:24 Wherefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts unto uncleanness, that their bodies should be dishonored among themselves:
Rom 1:25 for that they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile passions: for their women changed the natural use into that which is against nature:
Rom 1:27 and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another, men with men working unseemliness, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was due.
Rom 1:28 And even as they refused to have God in their knowledge, God gave them up unto a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not fitting;
Rom 1:29 being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
Rom 1:30 backbiters, hateful to God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Rom 1:31 without understanding, covenant-breakers, without natural affection, unmerciful:
Rom 1:32 who, knowing the ordinance of God, that they that practise such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but also consent with them that practise them.
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Israel. here is the worst part of GAY! Even if a agree to their lifestyles and give my blessings to them and I am not gay, then i will join them in hell! Look at this scripture! Romans 1:31 and 32... Oh the gays in this scripture are the ones that are without NATURAL affection. Natural affection is the effection between MAN AND WOMAN! All the others are without natural affections. Now the Romans 31 and 32...
Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
So I choose not to have pleasure but rather distaste in all iniquities! Everybodu os so eager to say... We are all sinners! But that is not true, look at 1 John 3:9... All people born of God does not sin, and they CANNOT sin. Confirmed by 1 John 5:18 and 2 Corinthians 5:17 and in fact the Whole Bible... But then who am I? I am just one with a HOPE in me that God will also give me rebirth FROM HIM! Read 1 John 3 the whole chapter... It is a very good book if nobody edits it! No SINNER will end up in heaven, and no Child of God will end up in hell. Children of God STOP sinning!Becasue God deliver them from ALL evil and sanctify them IM HIM! and IN HIM IS NO SIN! Yes there are perfect people on this earth... Eph 4:11 to 13. But they are protected and delivered from us, the evil! God knows to deliver His godly children OUT OF TEMPTATIONS! 2 Peter 2:1 and John 17:15... So my friend FEW goes to heaven becasue FEW were chosen but many called! Far more end up on the wrong side of the blood! I hope God saves me! Good luck with your search as well! And may you find God like all of us are trying! Seek and thee shall find, blessed are the ones that hunger and thrist for righteousness for they shall be filled... Amen!
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Israel. here is the worst part of GAY! Even if a agree to their lifestyles and give my blessings to them and I am not gay, then i will join them in hell! Look at this scripture! Romans 1:31 and 32... Oh the gays in this scripture are the ones that are without NATURAL affection. Natural affection is the effection between MAN AND WOMAN! All the others are without natural affections. Now the Romans 31 and 32...
Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
So I choose not to have pleasure but rather distaste in all iniquities! Everybodu os so eager to say... We are all sinners! But that is not true, look at 1 John 3:9... All people born of God does not sin, and they CANNOT sin. Confirmed by 1 John 5:18 and 2 Corinthians 5:17 and in fact the Whole Bible... But then who am I? I am just one with a HOPE in me that God will also give me rebirth FROM HIM! Read 1 John 3 the whole chapter... It is a very good book if nobody edits it! No SINNER will end up in heaven, and no Child of God will end up in hell. Children of God STOP sinning!Becasue God deliver them from ALL evil and sanctify them IM HIM! and IN HIM IS NO SIN! Yes there are perfect people on this earth... Eph 4:11 to 13. But they are protected and delivered from us, the evil! God knows to deliver His godly children OUT OF TEMPTATIONS! 2 Peter 2:1 and John 17:15... So my friend FEW goes to heaven becasue FEW were chosen but many called! Far more end up on the wrong side of the blood! I hope God saves me! Good luck with your search as well! And may you find God like all of us are trying! Seek and thee shall find, blessed are the ones that hunger and thrist for righteousness for they shall be filled... Amen!

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What is the wife of your youth?
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Default Re: Where in the Bible is Homosexuality stated to be a Sin?

man lusting for women is equally bad as ppl lusting of same gend..my fren is fighting homosexuality, she told me shed rather carry the cross n follow Jesus than give into it...blessr in Jesus name..
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Default Re: Where in the Bible is Homosexuality stated to be a Sin?

Romans Chapter 1, the sixth book of the New Testament.
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