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Hello kingdomgeneration you will be surprised to learn that in Croatia on 1 January 2009,a new sunday law has come into power.It is now illegal to do any business on sundays.Please go and check up on this story.You will also be surprised to hear that it was the roman catholic church that made it happen.Dont underestimate the influence of the pope.When he came to america the president went to the airport to go and meet him there.Usually the visitor comes to the white house and meets the president there.When they asked pres.bush what he saw in the pope,s eyes he said he saw GOD!!!!I can prove every caracteristic of the antichrist can be found in the papacy.Its a matter of studying the bible and history.I do agree that the un is involved.But remember satan wants worship and the antichrist channels the worship he recieves to satan.That is why the papacy wants sunday to be reconised and enforced.
M
Alot of people have tried to say Obama is the antichrist.They say because of his meteoric rise from four year senator to president,the fact that people have said when they are around him they feel like they are in the presence of God.I believe he also did not disclose his birth records,which should have disqualified him from even running for the office.
Personally I don't think he is.I think it is one of Europe's powerful leaders,and I don't think it will be long before he shows his cards.
Personally I don't think he is.I think it is one of Europe's powerful leaders,and I don't think it will be long before he shows his cards.
M
Is anyone interested in the proof? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG3w8HXe9JE
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Your link is just blatant bigotry. I've never encountered such hatred for the Catholic church (who ARE Christians.) About 20 pages back on this very forum there's another attack against Catholics without even once using history as a source. Distorted history maybe. People really have no clue at times. You convinced no one but yourself.
L
Hi there.Any serious study of history and the bible will confirm that the papacy is the antichrist power.That is unfortunate,but the truth.Let me just make it clear that i dont have anything agains catholics.They are mostly devout and honest christians.They are being decieved and do not know that they are part of the antichrist system.Well the poeple at the top knows ,but not the masses.The are in their minds busy with honest worship.The bad thing is that the whole of christianity has also fallen for the lie.The bible predicts this.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
2Th 2:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
2Th 2:6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
2Th 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
2Th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2Th 2:12 That they all might be ****ed who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. According to this there must come a fallin away first (apostacy) and then will the antichrist be revealed .What we see today is revival of christians by the millions.Very interesting could it be that we are believeing a lie ?It looks like sighns and lying wonders might also be a factor.I leave with a extract of a old book that tells the stories of the christian martyrs that stood and died for truth.) Hear what Rowland Taylor said: The second cause why I was condemned as a heretic was that I denied transubstantiation, and concomitation, two juggling words whereby the Papists believe that Christ's natural body is made of bread, and the Godhead by and by to be joined thereto, so that immediately after the words of consecration, there is no more bread and wine in the sacrament, but the substance only of the body and blood of Christ."
"Because I denied the aforesaid Papistical doctrine (yea, rather plain, wicked idolatry, blasphemy, and heresy) I urn judged a heretic."-Foxe in loco, vol. iii. p.141.
And therefore he was condemned and burned.
(4) Hear what was done with Bishop Ferrar.
He was summoned to "grant the natural presence of Christ in the sacrament under the form of bread and wine," and because he refused to subscribe this article as well as others, he was condemned. And in the sentence, of condemnation it is finally charged against him that he maintained that "the sacrament of the altar ought not to be ministered on an altar, or to be elevated, or to he adored in any way."-Foxe inloco,vol. iii. p.178.
And so he was burned.
(5) Hear what holy John Bradford wrote to the men of Lancasire and Cheshire when he was in prison: -"The, chief thing which I am condemned for as an heretic is because I deny in the mcrsment of the altar (which is not Christ's Supper. but a plain perversion as the Papists now use it) to be a real, natural, and corporal presence of Christ's body and blood under the forms and accidents of bread and wine: that is, because I deny transubstantiation, which is the darling of the devil, and daughter and heir to Antichrist'.religion."-Foxe. in loco, vol. iii. p.260.
And so he was condemned and burned.
(6) Hear what were the words of the sentence of condemnation against Bishop Ridley :
"The said Nicholas Ridley affirms, maintains, and stubbornly defends certain opinions, assertions, and heresies, contrary to the Word of God and the received faith of the Church, as in denying the true and natural body and blood of Christ to be in the sacrament of the altar, and secondarily, in affirming the substance of bread and wine to remain after the words of consecration."-Foxe. in loco, vol. iii. p.426.
And so he was condemned and burned.
(7) Hear the articles exhibited against Bishop Latimer : That thou hast openly affirmed, defended, and maintained that the true and natural body of Christ after the consecration of the priest, is not really peesent in the sacrament of the altar, and that in the sacrament of the altar remaineth still the substance of bread and wine."
And to this article the good old man replied: -"After a corporal being, which the Romish Church furnisheth, Christ's body and blood is not in the sacrament under the forms of bread and wine."-Foxe. in loco, vol. iii p.426.
And so he was condemned and burned.
(8) Hear the address made by Bishop Bonner to Archdeacon Philpot: -"You have offended and trespassed against the sacrament of the altar, denying the real presence of Christ's body and blood to be there, affirming also material bread and material wine to be in the sacrament, and not the substance of the body and blood of Christ." Foxe. in loco, vol. iii. p.495.
And because the good man stoutly adhered to this opinion he was condemned and burned.
(9) Hear, lastly, what Cranmer said with almost his last breath, in St. Mary's Church, Oxford:-"As for the sacrament, I believe, as I have taught in my book against the Bishop of Winchester, the which my book teacheth so true a doctrine, that it shall stand at the last day before the judgment of God when the Papist's doctrine contrary thereto shall be ashamed to show her face."-Foxe. in loco, vol. iii. p.562.
If any one wants to know what Cranmer had said in this book, let him take the following sentence as a specimen: -"They (the Papists) say that Christ is corporally under or in the forms of bread and wine. We say that Christ is not there, neither corporally norspiritually;but in them that worthily eat and drink the bread and wine He is spiritually, and corporally in heaven. -Cranmer on the Lord's Supper." Parker Society edition, p. 54. And so he was burned.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
2Th 2:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
2Th 2:6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
2Th 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
2Th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2Th 2:12 That they all might be ****ed who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. According to this there must come a fallin away first (apostacy) and then will the antichrist be revealed .What we see today is revival of christians by the millions.Very interesting could it be that we are believeing a lie ?It looks like sighns and lying wonders might also be a factor.I leave with a extract of a old book that tells the stories of the christian martyrs that stood and died for truth.) Hear what Rowland Taylor said: The second cause why I was condemned as a heretic was that I denied transubstantiation, and concomitation, two juggling words whereby the Papists believe that Christ's natural body is made of bread, and the Godhead by and by to be joined thereto, so that immediately after the words of consecration, there is no more bread and wine in the sacrament, but the substance only of the body and blood of Christ."
"Because I denied the aforesaid Papistical doctrine (yea, rather plain, wicked idolatry, blasphemy, and heresy) I urn judged a heretic."-Foxe in loco, vol. iii. p.141.
And therefore he was condemned and burned.
(4) Hear what was done with Bishop Ferrar.
He was summoned to "grant the natural presence of Christ in the sacrament under the form of bread and wine," and because he refused to subscribe this article as well as others, he was condemned. And in the sentence, of condemnation it is finally charged against him that he maintained that "the sacrament of the altar ought not to be ministered on an altar, or to be elevated, or to he adored in any way."-Foxe inloco,vol. iii. p.178.
And so he was burned.
(5) Hear what holy John Bradford wrote to the men of Lancasire and Cheshire when he was in prison: -"The, chief thing which I am condemned for as an heretic is because I deny in the mcrsment of the altar (which is not Christ's Supper. but a plain perversion as the Papists now use it) to be a real, natural, and corporal presence of Christ's body and blood under the forms and accidents of bread and wine: that is, because I deny transubstantiation, which is the darling of the devil, and daughter and heir to Antichrist'.religion."-Foxe. in loco, vol. iii. p.260.
And so he was condemned and burned.
(6) Hear what were the words of the sentence of condemnation against Bishop Ridley :
"The said Nicholas Ridley affirms, maintains, and stubbornly defends certain opinions, assertions, and heresies, contrary to the Word of God and the received faith of the Church, as in denying the true and natural body and blood of Christ to be in the sacrament of the altar, and secondarily, in affirming the substance of bread and wine to remain after the words of consecration."-Foxe. in loco, vol. iii. p.426.
And so he was condemned and burned.
(7) Hear the articles exhibited against Bishop Latimer : That thou hast openly affirmed, defended, and maintained that the true and natural body of Christ after the consecration of the priest, is not really peesent in the sacrament of the altar, and that in the sacrament of the altar remaineth still the substance of bread and wine."
And to this article the good old man replied: -"After a corporal being, which the Romish Church furnisheth, Christ's body and blood is not in the sacrament under the forms of bread and wine."-Foxe. in loco, vol. iii p.426.
And so he was condemned and burned.
(8) Hear the address made by Bishop Bonner to Archdeacon Philpot: -"You have offended and trespassed against the sacrament of the altar, denying the real presence of Christ's body and blood to be there, affirming also material bread and material wine to be in the sacrament, and not the substance of the body and blood of Christ." Foxe. in loco, vol. iii. p.495.
And because the good man stoutly adhered to this opinion he was condemned and burned.
(9) Hear, lastly, what Cranmer said with almost his last breath, in St. Mary's Church, Oxford:-"As for the sacrament, I believe, as I have taught in my book against the Bishop of Winchester, the which my book teacheth so true a doctrine, that it shall stand at the last day before the judgment of God when the Papist's doctrine contrary thereto shall be ashamed to show her face."-Foxe. in loco, vol. iii. p.562.
If any one wants to know what Cranmer had said in this book, let him take the following sentence as a specimen: -"They (the Papists) say that Christ is corporally under or in the forms of bread and wine. We say that Christ is not there, neither corporally norspiritually;but in them that worthily eat and drink the bread and wine He is spiritually, and corporally in heaven. -Cranmer on the Lord's Supper." Parker Society edition, p. 54. And so he was burned.
R
I've heard on many occasions that the Anti-christ could be the President of the Club of rome Prince El Hassan bin Talal, who supposedly got lineage 'ties' to Mohammad and he's been working with Sunnis and Shiites in Iraq trying to get them to work together. Lots of coincidences about a guy that seems to fly below the radar and yet is in the middle of moving and shaking thinking in the Arabic world. Could this be the one who is referred to in the bible as the Assyrian?
I live in a town with a 75% Catholic population. I know what they believe better than they do. Go read the Catechism of the Catholic church and you'll see their documented heresies. See the thread on Catholicism for my documentation on those.