false teacher Dan Corner

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roaringkitten

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Dan Corner clearly teaches a works gospel when he preaches and teaches. Look for yourself on his statement of faith- http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/doctrine.htm

I will highlight some of his statements in
PURPLE below from his doctrine page. I am exposing him because he is very popular in the Christian community and has influenced many to believing a gospel of deception.

True grace teaches us to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives (Titus 2:12). In contrast, there exists a false and dangerous "grace" message which gives a license for immorality (Jude 4) and breeds arrogance through a false security (Rom. 11:19-23).

The first sentence is Biblical. The rest of it is an attack on those preaching eternal security. In fact, he lies when he says we teach that it gives us a license of immorality. Check out Romans 6:15

A true Christian (or righteous person) doesn't have to "practice" sin, such as adultery or murder, before they lose their salvation, since it only takes one act of adultery to make a person a Bible-defined adulterer (Lev. 20:10) and one act of murder to make him a Bible defined murderer (Number 35:16). Rev. 21:8 is clear in stating such people are headed for hell because of their sins. David is a clear example of a righteous man who lost his salvation for a time, due to adultery and murder.

Dan Corner is a false prophet who deceives multitudes by misunderstanding what Christ's blood did for us. Consider this passage:

"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." Matthew 7:21-23

Notice Jesus said he NEVER knew these sort of people. He didn't say he knew them for a while then they became lost again. The Will of God is for people to believe on the Son(John 6:40). Also, Dan is lying when he says David lost his salvation. He will never show you this verse:

"Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation; and uphold me with thy free spirit.
" Psalm 51:12

After David committed adultery with Bathsheba, then covered it up with murder, God sent the prophet Nathan to tell him of his wicked deeds(2 Samuel 12:1-7). David lost the joy of his salvation, not his salvation as Dan Corner doesn't share. If David lost his salvation, he would have said "restore unto me thy salvation". David lost his baby as a result of his sins even though he was a saved man.

We are not saved by works (Eph. 2:8,9) but to reap eternal life and not destruction you must sow to please the Spirit and not the sinful nature (Gal. 6:8,9). God is faithful to us (1 Jn. 1:9; 1 Cor. 10:13) but we must be faithful to him to the very end of our lives to escape the lake of fire or second death (Rev. 2:10,11). God surely loves us (Jn. 3:16; Mk. 10:21; Rom. 8:35-39) but those who inherit the kingdom of God love God (Jam 2:5; 1 Cor. 2:9) and to love God means to obey his commands (Jn. 14:15; 1 Jn. 5:3).

Out of one corner of his mouth says we are not saved by works, but out of the other side, he requires good works to be saved and to not be lost again. In fact, I have watched a video of him street evangelizing to a campus where he lays out the plan of salvation=obeying the commandments of God. That is clearly works from the beginning, as he requires obedience to become saved by his very own testimony. He deceitfully butchers and cherry picks passages to defend his salvation by works heresy. In fact, our good works are filthy rags to God in comparison to His perfection:


“But we are all as an unclean thing, and ALL OUR RIGHTEOUSNESSES ARE AS FILTHY RAGS; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away” Isaiah 64:60


"To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law." Romans 3:26-28


All sins are not the same in their effect on our souls. Some sins are greater than others (Jn. 19:11). One type is eternal (Mk. 3:29), while others are not. Another type of sin is uniquely against our bodies, while other sins are outside our bodes (1 Cor. 6:18). 1 Jn. 5:16 declares there is a sin that does not lead to death while there is a sin that leads to death. Sins such as worry (Phil. 4:6), unthankfulness (Col. 2:7, 3:15; Lk. 17:11-18) and not being completely humble and gentle (Eph. 4:2) are not included in any of the lists of sins that will send people to the lake of fire, even if they were once saved. However, other sins certainly will send any person to hell if they die unrepentant, even a person who was once saved. (See 1 Cor. 6:9,10; Rev. 21:8; Gal. 5:19-21; Eph. 5:5,6; Jude 7; Rev. 22:15; etc.).

This is complete heresy and blasphemy. Some sins will not send any person to hell? See some passages that define sin:

“For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” Romans 6:23

"What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet." Romans 7:7


"...for whatsoever is not of faith is sin." Romans 14:23


"For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all." James 2:10


"Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin." James 4:17

"Who can understand his errors? cleanse thou me from secret faults." Psalm 19:12

Dan Corner teaches that certain sins can **** a believer while other sins wont. Dont think for a moment that God sees some sins "worthy enough" to keep a believer, while others are "horrible enough" to lose a believer. Sin is sin. God hates sin, and it is sin that condemns the world to hell. Dan even teaches some sins wont send ANY man to hell! So here we have a jumbled mess of false doctrines concerning sin. This sort of distinction of sins the way Dan declares, gives me the impression that as long as I stay away from "this and that sin" I will be ok and not lose salvation. In fact, Dan Corner created his own "eternal security" doctrine by formulating this solution, while attacking "eternal security".

I didn't intend this to be unkind, but to warn the body of Christ of a popular false teacher. He may sound good because he quoted a bunch of Scripture, but he is a false prophet, spreading a dangerous message(2 Corinthians 11:12-14). Remember, satan used Scripture to tempt Jesus(Matthew 4:1-11). It is not surprising, that satan's messengers will also appear to know Scripture.
 
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KingdomGeneration

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*lol* I've read roughly 400 pages of his 800 page book that complete refutes OSAS and has yet to be refuted even by the most famous of OSAS teachers. I would love to see you guys try to debate Dan Corner one on one. You guys (plural) would not have a chance. Oddly enough, Dan is very humble, unlike many people here who profess OSAS.
 
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KingdomGeneration

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There we have it folks. "Cut and Paste Christianity" at it's finest. You OSAS guys have mastered the art of at taking words and phrases out of books and using them completely out of context thus manipulating them for your religious devices. First the Bible and now Dan Corner. What next... The Cat in the Hat?

Roaring when are you going to stop reading controversial websites thus putting your trust in the writings of sinful men seeking to justify their own sin and start seeking God for yourself and asking the Holy Spirit for divine revelation on the meaning of scripture?
 
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MaggieMye

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Never heard of the guy? Is he on TV or something?
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*lol* I've read roughly 400 pages of his 800 page book that complete refutes OSAS and has yet to be refuted even by the most famous of OSAS teachers. I would love to see you guys try to debate Dan Corner one on one. You guys (plural) would not have a chance. Oddly enough, Dan is very humble, unlike many people here who profess OSAS.
I am reading a book he wrote right now, that my Pator gave because I hve just finished a bnook on the subject, called ''The believers conditional security'' it is a good one. Besides if roaringkitten is claiming it is a false works gospel, I would be confident it is scripturally acurrate instead.
 
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Dan Corner is a false prophet who deceives multitudes by misunderstanding what Christ's blood did for us.
I can only hope that one day someone like roaringkitten will say something like this about me. That way I will know I am right in the center of God's will.
 
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I can only hope that one day someone like roaringkitten will say something like this about me. That way I will know I am right in the center of God's will.
If you change your name to Mickey Mouse it might make your wish come true lol.
 
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Forgiven83

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*sigh* another thrilling instalment from Mr "i couldnt be bothered actually having an opinion that is my own so I'll cut and paste instead" Roaring Kitten....


ANNNND we move on.
 
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KingdomGeneration

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I am reading a book he wrote right now, that my Pator gave because I hve just finished a bnook on the subject, called ''The believers conditional security'' it is a good one. Besides if roaringkitten is claiming it is a false works gospel, I would be confident it is scripturally acurrate instead.
I didn't finish the book because to be honest I was convinced that His position on the matter was correct after about the first 200-250 pages or so. I continued reading till about the half way mark out curiosity then felt as though the Lord wanted me to move on in my studying.

The things is, rather than pull up some biased report on the internet and paste it here, I would like to suggest that Roaring actually by the book in an attempt to refute it for Himself. I have a feeling that by the end of the book Roaring, or any other believer in OSAS for that matter, would be singing an entirely different tune. *lol*
 

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People that are always trying to justify their relationship with God do not have any rest in their soul. They are continually making sure that their life in rightly related to God, not by faith in what Christ did to sin on the cross, but through fear and abstinence of sin. They can not rest in the truth that God will give them grace if they fail as a sinner (Rom 5:15,20, 14:4). They only trust God and His grace to keep them from falling but not to restore them if they fail. They want to be the ones who repent and they refuse to recognize the goodness of God's grace that leads them to repentance (Rom 2:4). This is all a result of being insecure in their relationship with God. They want the credit for God's grace to be the result of their repentance.

God rests in His love (Zeph 3:17) and that love casts out all fear (1Jn 4:17). God is resting in the work that Jesus Christ finished on Calvary (John 19:30). That work took the sin of the whole world (1Jn 2:2) and put it away (Jn 1:29, 1Jn 3:5, Heb 9:26) and destroyed the work of the devil (1Jn 3:8) that tries to make sin and repentance of sin an issue, especially in the believer's life. The devil does not want the believer to live in the victory of what Christ accomplished on the cross. He doesn't want the strength of God's grace to be sufficient for the the believer's weakness (2Cor 12:9). When the believer fails the devil wants them to be occupied with repenting of sin instead of walking by faith in what Christ did to that sin.

The devil wants the believer to have a relationship with his sin through repentance instead of having a relationship with God by grace and faith in what Christ did to his sin. The devil accuses God of giving the believer grace as a license to continue in sin. We can only turn from our sin once we know what God has done to it. God does not deal with us according to our sin (Ps 103:10) because He has put sin away, but He does deal with us according to our faith in what His Son has done to sin. Sin interferes with our fellowship with the Son and with the Father but not our standing and position in Christ, because that has been sealed by the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption (Eph 1:13, 4:30). When we sin, God forbid, we simply confess it to God by faith and we are forgiven and cleansed in our walk instantly (1Jn 1:9). We are restored the same way that we were saved, by grace and through faith (Eph 2:8,9, Col 2:6).
 
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KingdomGeneration

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People that are always trying to justify their relationship with God do not have any rest in their soul. They are continually making sure that their life in rightly related to God, not by faith in what Christ did to sin on the cross, but through fear and abstinence of sin. They can not rest in the truth that God will give them grace if they fail as a sinner (Rom 5:15,20, 14:4). They only trust God and His grace to keep them from falling but not to restore them if they fail. They want to be the ones who repent and they refuse to recognize the goodness of God's grace that leads them to repentance (Rom 2:4). This is all a result of being insecure in their relationship with God. They want the credit for God's grace to be the result of their repentance.

God rests in His love (Zeph 3:17) and that love casts out all fear (1Jn 4:17). God is resting in the work that Jesus Christ finished on Calvary (John 19:30). That work took the sin of the whole world (1Jn 2:2) and put it away (Jn 1:29, 1Jn 3:5, Heb 9:26) and destroyed the work of the devil (1Jn 3:8) that tries to make sin and repentance of sin an issue, especially in the believer's life. The devil does not want the believer to live in the victory of what Christ accomplished on the cross. He doesn't want the strength of God's grace to be sufficient for the the believer's weakness (2Cor 12:9). When the believer fails the devil wants them to be occupied with repenting of sin instead of walking by faith in what Christ did to that sin.

The devil wants the believer to have a relationship with his sin through repentance instead of having a relationship with God by grace and faith in what Christ did to his sin. The devil accuses God of giving the believer grace as a license to continue in sin. We can only turn from our sin once we know what God has done to it. God does not deal with us according to our sin (Ps 103:10) because He has put sin away, but He does deal with us according to our faith in what His Son has done to sin. Sin interferes with our fellowship with the Son and with the Father but not our standing and position in Christ, because that has been sealed by the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption (Eph 1:13, 4:30). When we sin, God forbid, we simply confess it to God by faith and we are forgiven and cleansed in our walk instantly (1Jn 1:9). We are restored the same way that we were saved, by grace and through faith (Eph 2:8,9, Col 2:6).
BLC, seem you seem like a pretty intelligent guy who knows his prefered doctrine very well. Why don't you buy the book for yourself, read the entire thing, then do you best to refute it... that is if you don't change your position first.
 
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KingdomGeneration

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The thing about the book is Corner establishes (through scripture) a theme which clearly courses throughout the Old Testament and progresses into and throughout the New Testament. The theme is basically this: Although God has never given up on man, man has often times turned his back toward God. He gives both Old and New Testament accounts to such and goes into some very deep detail.

Guys like Roaring love to cut tidbits of info out of a book then paste that info together in a manner that is suitable for his agenda. In fact, that is how the doctrine of OSAS was in deed formed in the first place, by pulling scripture out of context then gluing them together to form a new meaning which was never intended in the first place.

In order to get accurate account of whether or not one can forfeit his or her salvation, one must read the entire bible from cover to cover in order to make an informed decision. I believe Dan Corner has done just that and presents an excellent case against OSAS in doing so. That explains is why the book is roughly 800 pages long.
 
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KingdomGeneration

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How can you guys be critical of something that you have never read for yourself? Don't be a hypocrite guys. Buy the book and read it for yourselves!

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*sigh* another thrilling instalment from Mr "i couldnt be bothered actually having an opinion that is my own so I'll cut and paste instead" Roaring Kitten....


ANNNND we move on.
I am someone who has disagreed with roaring on a few issues and agreed on a few... A definite inaccurate statement would be to state that he doesnt have his own opinions. My experience of roaring is that he has a heart for the Truth... believes with every fibre of his being his truth and feels compelled to warn other Christians based on this truth. Now there have been times when I am put off by the post or the way it was written but honestly... after reading and responding... I go about my day and reflect on the things that Roaring... BLC and other posters who got my back up had to say. I think in all things we should question what we are taught... weigh the opinions of others to what we find biblical and make a decision based on that. I embrace the posters here who cause me to get my back up and get irritated cause they make me think long and hard on what I believe and that is a wonderful challenge dont you think? I'm not saying all this to make you feel bad about your post... cause i've posted mean comments to roaring in the past too (sorry roaring...)... I just wanted to clarify that this is not someone who lacks knowledge or his own opinion... it just may differ from ours.
 
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KingdomGeneration

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I don't have a problem with Calvinism in it's purest form. I think that they do make some valid points. However if you ever met a true back slider, someone who was once an awesome christian who, because of some sort of traumatic event became bitter and hateful toward God, then you would also understand the Arminian perspective as well.

However, if there's one that that both hardcore Calvinists and Arminians can agree on is that this current wave of OSAS preaching as taught Charles Stanley and Tony Evans, this concept of Carnal Christianity, is lie from hell that has many deceived. The concept itself is less than 50 years old and is being widely embraced by many people who are not sincere about God or salvation yet they believe they are saved despite living a lifestyle without real repentance. If you are indeed sincere about God and your salvation then I commend but the vast majority of those who hold to the modern teachings of OSAS have no idea at all as to what means to truly put their hope and trust in God.
 
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MaggieMye

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This verse shows that one CAN loose Salvation.

Revelation 3:5
' He who overcomes will thus be clothed in white garments; and I will not erase his name from the book of life, and I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.

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Why Not just read your bible? That is what I do, and I know it's the truth because it's the Lord's word.
 
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I didn't finish the book because to be honest I was convinced that His position on the matter was correct after about the first 200-250 pages or so. I continued reading till about the half way mark out curiosity then felt as though the Lord wanted me to move on in my studying.

The things is, rather than pull up some biased report on the internet and paste it here, I would like to suggest that Roaring actually by the book in an attempt to refute it for Himself. I have a feeling that by the end of the book Roaring, or any other believer in OSAS for that matter, would be singing an entirely different tune. *lol*
I was convinced of his position before I had ever heard of the book but it is a very good read none the less. Yes I agree roaring should read the book for herself.
 
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