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Jun 24, 2010
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There are many that come to this site that do not have a local body of believers to assemble themselves with that God has raised up for edification in the word, in doctrine, in the love of God and in felowship of the Spirit. For some reason they are critical of the local assembly and pretend they would go and be a participant if they could find one that believed as they do. That is their problem, they are self oriented to the church and the local assembly, so they want no part of it unless they could have some control of what it preaches and teaches and how it functions.

This is like a single person (man or woman) that has no family and criticizes their neighbor that has a family of eight. They criticize the parents and how they treat the kids and what they are teaching the kids because they see problems, weaknesses, failures and falling short in many areas. They even make statements as to what will happen to this family in the future because of what they see going on, but they will never lift a finger through love to be kind and understanding or try to be a good neighbor and make an investment of love with the entire family. They would rather be critical and predict a falling out rather then encourage and edify them through love and with an attitude of being gracious.

What we do not realize it that the measure in which we are critical and judge others will be the measure that we are judged or judge ourselves. Some do not believe in loving your neighbor as you love yourself. They think it is part of the old and not the new testament therefore giving them justification to judge their neighbor whether they are a child of God or not. They are like this because they have never been hid in the body of Christ or baked in the loaf of God's unleavened bread. They live experientially independent of the fulness of God that is in the body (Ep 1:23). They serve a personal Christ but not a corporate Christ, who is found as the head of the body, the fulness of God.
 
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So you suggest people just pick a random church and go with the flow.
Is it more important to be in a church in which you 'see' errors, to give support to an institution and not what you believe in your heart and mind to be the truth?
To have a 'minister', or' priest', or 'brother' or a "father' that lords over the congregation and vetoes any divergence from where he or she feels the correct interpretation or belief lays?
So who is wise enough to lead??
Doesn't debate/questioning reveal the truth to those that don't quite get it right.

Strength in numbers may help defend the institution of a church, to help it spread it's word, but does that necessarily mean it's going down the right path?

Might that only serve to expand the Church and not necessarily the truth.

Are you really saying that you think people that question are just control freaks ands misanthropes?
 
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So you suggest people just pick a random church and go with the flow.
Is it more important to be in a church in which you 'see' errors, to give support to an institution and not what you believe in your heart and mind to be the truth?
To have a 'minister', or' priest', or 'brother' or a "father' that lords over the congregation and vetoes any divergence from where he or she feels the correct interpretation or belief lays?
So who is wise enough to lead??
Doesn't debate/questioning reveal the truth to those that don't quite get it right.

Strength in numbers may help defend the institution of a church, to help it spread it's word, but does that necessarily mean it's going down the right path?

Might that only serve to expand the Church and not necessarily the truth.

Are you really saying that you think people that question are just control freaks ands misanthropes?
Interesting you should say this. My church opens up the mic after every service so anyone who wants can ask questions. Or make comments. Even my home church, where I teach about once every other month. I have to put myself up to questioning what I teach to my Listeners. It seems to work quite well. Even if people might disagree. Most churches would not dare do this
 
Jun 24, 2010
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So you suggest people just pick a random church and go with the flow.
Is it more important to be in a church in which you 'see' errors, to give support to an institution and not what you believe in your heart and mind to be the truth?
To have a 'minister', or' priest', or 'brother' or a "father' that lords over the congregation and vetoes any divergence from where he or she feels the correct interpretation or belief lays?
So who is wise enough to lead??
Doesn't debate/questioning reveal the truth to those that don't quite get it right.

Strength in numbers may help defend the institution of a church, to help it spread it's word, but does that necessarily mean it's going down the right path?

Might that only serve to expand the Church and not necessarily the truth.

Are you really saying that you think people that question are just control freaks ands misanthropes?
God is faithful who has promised and if a believer is lead of God they will be lead to a local assembly of believers that they can grow in grace and knowledge of Christ (2Pt 3:18). The NT is made up of local churches and assembly of believers that these letters were written and dispersed to. You must see that and also understand that these things were taught to believers that were gathered together as an assembly and church of called out ones, that make up the household of God. Even the people of Israel that came out of Egypt were gathered together unto Moses and were considered by Paul as the church in the wilderness (Acts 7:38, 1Cor 10:1-4).

The local assembly that we are called to may not be in our local area and we may be required to pick up and move geographically. For we have no continuing city but seek one to come (Heb 13:14). Our citizenship is in heaven (that is present and not just future) and we are sojourners and ambassadors on the earth (Phil 3:20, 2Cor 5:20). Do you think that God may lead us in that way according to His own purpose and plan? God called Abraham out of the Ur of the Chaldees to go into the land of Canaan in (Gen 11:31). Every one of us who have believed have been bought with a price and we are not our own (1Cor 6:19,20). Hath not the potter have power over the clay (Rom 9:21)? Have we not been called out of the world and into the glorious liberty of the sons of God (Rom 8:21) according to His purpose and not ours (Rom 8:28, Eph 1:11, Jn 15:19, 17:6, 2Tim 1:9).
 
May 21, 2009
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There are many that come to this site that do not have a local body of believers to assemble themselves with that God has raised up for edification in the word, in doctrine, in the love of God and in felowship of the Spirit. For some reason they are critical of the local assembly and pretend they would go and be a participant if they could find one that believed as they do. That is their problem, they are self oriented to the church and the local assembly, so they want no part of it unless they could have some control of what it preaches and teaches and how it functions.

This is like a single person (man or woman) that has no family and criticizes their neighbor that has a family of eight. They criticize the parents and how they treat the kids and what they are teaching the kids because they see problems, weaknesses, failures and falling short in many areas. They even make statements as to what will happen to this family in the future because of what they see going on, but they will never lift a finger through love to be kind and understanding or try to be a good neighbor and make an investment of love with the entire family. They would rather be critical and predict a falling out rather then encourage and edify them through love and with an attitude of being gracious.

What we do not realize it that the measure in which we are critical and judge others will be the measure that we are judged or judge ourselves. Some do not believe in loving your neighbor as you love yourself. They think it is part of the old and not the new testament therefore giving them justification to judge their neighbor whether they are a child of God or not. They are like this because they have never been hid in the body of Christ or baked in the loaf of God's unleavened bread. They live experientially independent of the fulness of God that is in the body (Ep 1:23). They serve a personal Christ but not a corporate Christ, who is found as the head of the body, the fulness of God.

I will be one finger and you can be one finger. A few others and we have a hand. We are to be a church working together. I know no perfect church. But if we can't be decent to each other then what. Lots of people are not in church because they have no self control. Like ones who get kicked off of here. There's nothing in the bible that says we will like everyone. But we have to start some place. I know there are people who were offended in churches wrongly but we are to forgive. The word says we are to get together.
 
May 21, 2009
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Interesting you should say this. My church opens up the mic after every service so anyone who wants can ask questions. Or make comments. Even my home church, where I teach about once every other month. I have to put myself up to questioning what I teach to my Listeners. It seems to work quite well. Even if people might disagree. Most churches would not dare do this

Sounds good.