Catholic Church Is Not Of God

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Tobby17

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The catholics can attack me all they want after seeing this and they can do even much more. But everything i write here today is TRUE!.. I believe that the Catholic Church is evil. As a matter of fact is Idolatory..

Do not follow their doctrine

That you should pray with the image of Jesus or Mary. As this will be equal to making grave images which God has already warned us against ( Exodus 20:4-5)

That you should call on Mary and the dead saints to intercede on your behalf in prayer. It is Jesus and the Holy Spirit who intercedes on our behalf (Hebrews 7:25, Romans 6:26)....

Moreover the chain of the cross of Jesus Christ you keep carrying around will not Protect you.. Jesus Christ is no longer dead, He is alive and on the right side of his father, Now in a glorified form (Act 7:55-56).

The ridiculous prayer where they say *Holy Mary, full of grace*.. Wait A Min, Mary was never Holy!.Mary was a human being who was born, as all humans are, with a sin nature and who recognized that she needed a Savior. In fact, the very passage used in the Hail Mary, known as Mary’s Magnificat (Luke 1:46-55), contains the declaration “my spirit rejoices in God my Savior,” a clear indication that she understood her need for a Savior from sin. The Bible never says that Mary was anyone but an ordinary human whom God chose to use in an extraordinary way. Yes, Mary was a righteous woman and favored (graced) by God (Luke 1:27-28). At the same time, Mary was a sinful human being who needed Jesus Christ as her Savior, just like everyone else (Ecclesiastes 7:20; Romans 3:23; 6:23; 1 John 1:8).

*Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners*, What?, did i just hear you say Mother of God??.. Mary was the human mother of the human Jesus Christ, who was indeed God incarnate. But she was not the mother of God, neither is she the ”queen of heaven,” another title given to her by the Catholic Church which has no basis in Scripture. God doesn’t have a mother, nor does He have a queen. He is an eternal, infinite Being, uncreated and unborn, self-sufficient and self-sustaining.

Stay away from any doctrine that will lead you to HELL!... You were warned, don't say you weren't
 
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Scotth1960

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#2
The catholics can attack me all they want after seeing this and they can do even much more. But everything i write here today is TRUE!.. I believe that the Catholic Church is evil. As a matter of fact is Idolatory..

Do not follow their doctrine

That you should pray with the image of Jesus or Mary. As this will be equal to making grave images which God has already warned us against ( Exodus 20:4-5)

That you should call on Mary and the dead saints to intercede on your behalf in prayer. It is Jesus and the Holy Spirit who intercedes on our behalf (Hebrews 7:25, Romans 6:26)....

Moreover the chain of the cross of Jesus Christ you keep carrying around will not Protect you.. Jesus Christ is no longer dead, He is alive and on the right side of his father, Now in a glorified form (Act 7:55-56).

The ridiculous prayer where they say *Holy Mary, full of grace*.. Wait A Min, Mary was never Holy!.Mary was a human being who was born, as all humans are, with a sin nature and who recognized that she needed a Savior. In fact, the very passage used in the Hail Mary, known as Mary’s Magnificat (Luke 1:46-55), contains the declaration “my spirit rejoices in God my Savior,” a clear indication that she understood her need for a Savior from sin. The Bible never says that Mary was anyone but an ordinary human whom God chose to use in an extraordinary way. Yes, Mary was a righteous woman and favored (graced) by God (Luke 1:27-28). At the same time, Mary was a sinful human being who needed Jesus Christ as her Savior, just like everyone else (Ecclesiastes 7:20; Romans 3:23; 6:23; 1 John 1:8).

*Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners*, What?, did i just hear you say Mother of God??.. Mary was the human mother of the human Jesus Christ, who was indeed God incarnate. But she was not the mother of God, neither is she the ”queen of heaven,” another title given to her by the Catholic Church which has no basis in Scripture. God doesn’t have a mother, nor does He have a queen. He is an eternal, infinite Being, uncreated and unborn, self-sufficient and self-sustaining.

Stay away from any doctrine that will lead you to HELL!... You were warned, don't say you weren't
Dear Tobby17,
The Catholic Church was founded by God. What is the Catholic Church? It is the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church? What is the true Catholic Church? The Orthodox Church. The Church that confessed the Nicene Creed of the Second Ecumenical Council of 381 AD without the Filioque. As for the Virgin Mary, she was holy. Scripture says, "All generations shall call be blessed." How could she not be holy, if she was called blessed?
Scripture does not say she sinned. It merely says she was a sinner. All people are sinners, whether they sin are not. People are born with the knowledge of good and evil, and that is the ancestral sin: the knowledge of good and evil, in disobedience of God.
Mary was born with sin, and mortal. She needed to be saved by Christ her Son. She, however, resisted temptation, and chose not to commit sins. She obeyed her Son, Jesus Christ. She is blameless. God the Son does have a mother. If Jesus Christ doesn't have mother, He wasn't born of a virgin, and Isaiah 7:14 is false. The term Mother of God doesn't mean that Mary was the mother of the Divinity of Christ. It means that Mary's Son is God. To deny the term Mother of God is to deny that Jesus Christ is God. The Third Council , the Third Ecumenical Council, of Ephesus, 431 AD, rightly declared that Mary is the Theotokos, the God-bearer, the Mother of God. To deny this is to reject Jesus Christ, for to reject Christ's Church is to reject Jesus Christ Himself. To try to interpret the Bible by oneself, according to one's own personal rational powers of reasoning and interpretation is to defy God and defy Scripture, as St. Peter tells us that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation. Protestantism disagrees, and wrongly believes in the supposed "right" of every individual person to read and to interpret the Bible "for himself". Thus, we have some 30,000 different private interpretations of the Bible, all contradicting each others, and some leading to damnable heresies, such as Unitarianism,
as in the thread in this CC forum, "Why I am a Biblical Unitarian". Q.v.
Protestantism is skepticism, humanism, nominalism, and rationalism, and the heresy of solafideism and solascripturism.
It is false interpretation of the Bible. As such, we reject it with honor, and are glad God has delivered us from the Filioquism of the Protestants and the Catholics. Amen. God have mercy on us.
In Erie PA USA Scott R. Harrington
 
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unclefester

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I do not find those words Prideful or self-righteous.. What i find annoying is that you keep using the word Proud on anybody that disagrees with you... Stop Judging People![/quote]


Physician .......heal thyself.
 

Dude653

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I agree Toby...you are correct
 
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The catholics can attack me all they want after seeing this and they can do even much more. But everything i write here today is TRUE!.. I believe that the Catholic Church is evil. As a matter of fact is Idolatory..

Do not follow their doctrine

That you should pray with the image of Jesus or Mary. As this will be equal to making grave images which God has already warned us against ( Exodus 20:4-5)

That you should call on Mary and the dead saints to intercede on your behalf in prayer. It is Jesus and the Holy Spirit who intercedes on our behalf (Hebrews 7:25, Romans 6:26)....

Moreover the chain of the cross of Jesus Christ you keep carrying around will not Protect you.. Jesus Christ is no longer dead, He is alive and on the right side of his father, Now in a glorified form (Act 7:55-56).

The ridiculous prayer where they say *Holy Mary, full of grace*.. Wait A Min, Mary was never Holy!.Mary was a human being who was born, as all humans are, with a sin nature and who recognized that she needed a Savior. In fact, the very passage used in the Hail Mary, known as Mary’s Magnificat (Luke 1:46-55), contains the declaration “my spirit rejoices in God my Savior,” a clear indication that she understood her need for a Savior from sin. The Bible never says that Mary was anyone but an ordinary human whom God chose to use in an extraordinary way. Yes, Mary was a righteous woman and favored (graced) by God (Luke 1:27-28). At the same time, Mary was a sinful human being who needed Jesus Christ as her Savior, just like everyone else (Ecclesiastes 7:20; Romans 3:23; 6:23; 1 John 1:8).

*Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners*, What?, did i just hear you say Mother of God??.. Mary was the human mother of the human Jesus Christ, who was indeed God incarnate. But she was not the mother of God, neither is she the ”queen of heaven,” another title given to her by the Catholic Church which has no basis in Scripture. God doesn’t have a mother, nor does He have a queen. He is an eternal, infinite Being, uncreated and unborn, self-sufficient and self-sustaining.

Stay away from any doctrine that will lead you to HELL!... You were warned, don't say you weren't
There's only one thing to be said about this. AMEN! Shalom
 
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Tobby17

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I do not find those words Prideful or self-righteous.. What i find annoying is that you keep using the word Proud on anybody that disagrees with you... Stop Judging People![/quote]


Physician .......heal thyself.
As expected of you, you have once more excelled in showing your negativity. (Very sorry to say if you feel insulted). How am i judging people?. I'm simply warning people of practices that is leading thousands of Professing believers to HELL. And you tell me to heal myself.

Please, i am in no way like you who will call people proud just because they disagree with you :)
 
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The catholics can attack me all they want after seeing this and they can do even much more. But everything i write here today is TRUE!.. I believe that the Catholic Church is evil. As a matter of fact is Idolatory..

Do not follow their doctrine

That you should pray with the image of Jesus or Mary. As this will be equal to making grave images which God has already warned us against ( Exodus 20:4-5)

That you should call on Mary and the dead saints to intercede on your behalf in prayer. It is Jesus and the Holy Spirit who intercedes on our behalf (Hebrews 7:25, Romans 6:26)....

Moreover the chain of the cross of Jesus Christ you keep carrying around will not Protect you.. Jesus Christ is no longer dead, He is alive and on the right side of his father, Now in a glorified form (Act 7:55-56).

The ridiculous prayer where they say *Holy Mary, full of grace*.. Wait A Min, Mary was never Holy!.Mary was a human being who was born, as all humans are, with a sin nature and who recognized that she needed a Savior. In fact, the very passage used in the Hail Mary, known as Mary’s Magnificat (Luke 1:46-55), contains the declaration “my spirit rejoices in God my Savior,” a clear indication that she understood her need for a Savior from sin. The Bible never says that Mary was anyone but an ordinary human whom God chose to use in an extraordinary way. Yes, Mary was a righteous woman and favored (graced) by God (Luke 1:27-28). At the same time, Mary was a sinful human being who needed Jesus Christ as her Savior, just like everyone else (Ecclesiastes 7:20; Romans 3:23; 6:23; 1 John 1:8).

*Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners*, What?, did i just hear you say Mother of God??.. Mary was the human mother of the human Jesus Christ, who was indeed God incarnate. But she was not the mother of God, neither is she the ”queen of heaven,” another title given to her by the Catholic Church which has no basis in Scripture. God doesn’t have a mother, nor does He have a queen. He is an eternal, infinite Being, uncreated and unborn, self-sufficient and self-sustaining.

Stay away from any doctrine that will lead you to HELL!... You were warned, don't say you weren't
I think the Catholic Church is as much from God as any other church. There are no perfect churches, I don’t believe.
 
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unclefester

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As expected of you, you have once more excelled in showing your negativity. (Very sorry to say if you feel insulted). How am i judging people?. I'm simply warning people of practices that is leading thousands of Professing believers to HELL. And you tell me to heal myself.

Please, i am in no way like you who will call people proud just because they disagree with you :)

No.... you don't Tobby.
 
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Scotth1960

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The catholics can attack me all they want after seeing this and they can do even much more. But everything i write here today is TRUE!.. I believe that the Catholic Church is evil. As a matter of fact is Idolatory..

Do not follow their doctrine

That you should pray with the image of Jesus or Mary. As this will be equal to making grave images which God has already warned us against ( Exodus 20:4-5)

That you should call on Mary and the dead saints to intercede on your behalf in prayer. It is Jesus and the Holy Spirit who intercedes on our behalf (Hebrews 7:25, Romans 6:26)....

Moreover the chain of the cross of Jesus Christ you keep carrying around will not Protect you.. Jesus Christ is no longer dead, He is alive and on the right side of his father, Now in a glorified form (Act 7:55-56).

The ridiculous prayer where they say *Holy Mary, full of grace*.. Wait A Min, Mary was never Holy!.Mary was a human being who was born, as all humans are, with a sin nature and who recognized that she needed a Savior. In fact, the very passage used in the Hail Mary, known as Mary’s Magnificat (Luke 1:46-55), contains the declaration “my spirit rejoices in God my Savior,” a clear indication that she understood her need for a Savior from sin. The Bible never says that Mary was anyone but an ordinary human whom God chose to use in an extraordinary way. Yes, Mary was a righteous woman and favored (graced) by God (Luke 1:27-28). At the same time, Mary was a sinful human being who needed Jesus Christ as her Savior, just like everyone else (Ecclesiastes 7:20; Romans 3:23; 6:23; 1 John 1:8).

*Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners*, What?, did i just hear you say Mother of God??.. Mary was the human mother of the human Jesus Christ, who was indeed God incarnate. But she was not the mother of God, neither is she the ”queen of heaven,” another title given to her by the Catholic Church which has no basis in Scripture. God doesn’t have a mother, nor does He have a queen. He is an eternal, infinite Being, uncreated and unborn, self-sufficient and self-sustaining.

Stay away from any doctrine that will lead you to HELL!... You were warned, don't say you weren't[/quote
The Third Ecumenical Council disagrees with all who say Mary is the Mother of God, and they therefore deny the divinity of Christ, for if she is not the Mother of Christ, Christ is not her Son as Christ is God, she must be the Mother of God. She is not the Mother of Christ's Divinity: She is the mother of Christ's humanity as God the Son in His humanity.
See:
The Third and Fourth Ecumenical Councils
http:// www.lasvegasorthodox.com/library/history/aticles/EcumenicalCouncils-TheThirdandFourthCouncils.htm

God save us all. Amen. In Erie PA Scott R. Harrington

PS God the Son, Jesus Christ, is uncreated, but He is not unborn; He is born of the Mother of God, the Theotokos, the ever-virgin Mary, and He is indeed self-sufficient and self-sustaining. God bless you! Amen.

 
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Tobby17

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I think the Catholic Church is as much from God as any other church. There are no perfect churches, I don’t believe.
Sorry but i think any church that practices Idolatory maybe directly or indirectly is not of God, but of the Devil!..You cannot serve God and Mammon!
 
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unclefester

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Sorry but i think any church that practices Idolatory maybe directly or indirectly is not of God, but of the Devil!..You cannot serve God and Mammon!
What of churches that promote false prophets (directly) Tobby ? What do we do with them ? Call them proud ? Or as you have chosen to do with all Catholics, do we simply condemn them to hell ? You were right my friend. You're not like me at all
 
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Tobby17

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What of churches that promote false prophets (directly) Tobby ? What do we do with them ? Call them proud ? Or as you have chosen to do with all Catholics, do we simply condemn them to hell ? You were right my friend. You're not like me at all
I see you have deemed it fit to attack me. But next time when you want to do, maybe you should understand my English a little better!. Or simply try not to read my threads with a mind full of Hatred!. It will help a lot :)

And yes i never condemned any Church to hell, i only listed some of the things they do and why they are wrong.(Note: i attended a Catholic Secondary School). Now at the end of the thread i wrote

*STAY AWAY FROM ANY PRACTICE (NOT CHURCH) THAT WILL LEAD YOU TO HELL*.

So tell me, how does this condemn a Church to hell?.. And Yes, I AM NOT LIKE YOU, AND I HOPE FOR MY SAKE THAT I NEVER AM! :)
 
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unclefester

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I see you have deemed it fit to attack me. But next time when you want to do, maybe you should understand my English a little better!. Or simply try not to read my threads with a mind full of Hatred!. It will help a lot :)

And yes i never condemned any Church to hell, i only listed some of the things they do and why they are wrong.(Note: i attended a Catholic Secondary School). Now at the end of the thread i wrote

*STAY AWAY FROM ANY PRACTICE (NOT CHURCH) THAT WILL LEAD YOU TO HELL*.

So tell me, how does this condemn a Church to hell?.. And Yes, I AM NOT LIKE YOU, AND I HOPE FOR MY SAKE THAT I NEVER AM! :)
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unclefester

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What was that????... I didn't hear it :)

And please i hope this has nothing to prove about me being Proud now????
It was an olive branch (a hand reached out in friendship).....sprinkled with a splash of humor.
An old character known as the "Church Lady" from a former comedy show. Pretty funny stuff for it's time. Carry on Tobby. No ill feelings here bud......none whatsoever
 
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Scotth1960

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The catholics can attack me all they want after

seeing this and they can do even much more. But everything i write here

today is TRUE!.. I believe that the Catholic Church is evil. As a matter of fact is

Idolatory..

Do not follow their doctrine


That you should pray with the image of Jesus or Mary. As this will be equal to

making grave images which God has already warned us against ( Exodus

20:4-5)


That you should call on Mary and the dead saints to intercede on your behalf

in prayer.

Dear Tobby17,

Are the saints in heaven, and Mary, dead? What does the Bible say? See

Revelation 4:1-11. Revelation 5:1-14 The twenty four elders in heaven

were not dead. They were alive in their souls. Their bodies may have been

dead, but their souls alive in God. The dead in Christ are not dead. They are

alive in their souls. Only their bodies await the resurrection of the just.

So, saints in heaven can and do pray for the Church on earth.

Mary is not dead; she is alive in Christ. And she gives her wisdom to the

Church, bidding the Church to obey Christ. She says, "Whatever He says to

you: do it." Mary is thus the seat of the wisdom of God.

The Roman Catholic Church is not the Catholic Church. It's in schism from the

truth, based on its departure from the teaching of Christ in John 15:26.

The true Church is the (Greek) Orthodox Church.

God bless you, Tobby 17. In Erie Scott Harringon

It is Jesus and the Holy Spirit who intercedes on our behalf (Hebrews 7:25,

Romans 6:26)....

Dear Tobby17,

True. So do the saints: See Revelation 4, Revelation 5. Scott Harrington

Moreover the chain of the cross of Jesus Christ you keep carrying around will

not Protect you.. Jesus Christ is no longer dead, He is alive and on the right

side of his father, Now in a glorified form (Act 7:55-56).

The ridiculous prayer where they say *Holy Mary, full of grace*.. Wait A Min,

Mary was never Holy!.
Dear Tobby17, Such a mistake, Tobby! Mary said, "All generations shall call

me blessed." She would not be called "blessed" if she was not holier than you

and I are. We are sinners. Mary had ancestral sin, and thus needed to be

saved from the ancestral sin nature that all people are born with. The Bible

does not mention actual sins for her. So we should not presume she actually

sinned. She is called blessed for a reason. She obeyed Christ in all things.

If she did commit any sin, which no one can prove, it would have been

forgiven by her Son, Jesus Christ. St. Peter sinned, but he was forgiven by

Christ. We should not be happy when people in the Bible are called sinful.

We should ask forgiveness for our own many sins, not trying to speak badly

about the holy Mother of God or call her a common sinner. She is indeed holy.

In Erie Scott Harrington


Mary was a human being who was born, as all humans

are, with a sin nature and who recognized that she needed a Savior.

That is what I just said, Tobby. She had a sin nature. But she didn't live in

sin. She resisted temptation and was victorious over sin by the grace of

her Son, Jesus Christ. Thus, "all generations shall call her (Mary) blessed",

because she was freed from sin. In Erie Scott H.


In fact, the very passage used

in the Hail Mary, known as Mary’s Magnificat (Luke 1:46-55), contains the

declaration “my spirit rejoices in God my Savior,” a clear indication that she

understood her need for a Savior from sin. The Bible never says that Mary

was anyone but an ordinary human whom God chose to use in an

extraordinary way. Yes, Mary was a righteous woman and favored (graced)

by God (Luke 1:27-28). At the same time, Mary was a sinful human being who

needed Jesus Christ as her Savior, just like everyone else (Ecclesiastes 7:20;

Romans 3:23; 6:23; 1 John 1:8).


*Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners*, What?, did i just hear you

say Mother of God??.. Mary was the human mother of the human Jesus Christ,

who was indeed God incarnate. But she was not the mother of God, neither is

she the ”queen of heaven,” another title given to her by the Catholic Church

which has no basis in Scripture. God doesn’t have a mother, nor does He have

a queen. He is an eternal, infinite Being, uncreated and unborn, self-sufficient

and self-sustaining.


Stay away from any doctrine that will lead you to HELL!... You were warned,

don't say you weren't.


 

Cleante

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Now where did you copy and paste that from?

If you would search the threads, you would find that we have 2304320932049 threads on this same exact topic. Why not post in one of those?
 
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Tobby17

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Now where did you copy and paste that from?

If you would search the threads, you would find that we have 2304320932049 threads on this same exact topic. Why not post in one of those?
I attended a Catholic School, so at least i should know what you call Mary when you pray the Angelus or whatever it is called!..

Now does your thread change the fact that the practices of the Catholic are NOT just ACCEPTABLE!