June 21st 2012

[anonymous04]

I want to start of by saying Paul said in romans we must discard all worldy thoughts. As such I cannot affirm 100% that what i'm sharing is the truth of God. I can tell you that as I was reading Daniel 7:24 something as if it were a realization came. The verse says the ten horns are ten kings who will come from this forth kingdom. After those ten kings are gone another king will come. He will be diffrent from the kings who ruled before him and will defeat three of the other kings. Verse 25, This King will speak against the Most High God and he will hurt and kill God's holy people. He will try to change times and laws that have already been set. The holy people that belong to God will be in that king's power for three and one half years.

I'll start off with this, I think America is the 4th Beast that is referenced in Daniel as well as revelations. I think this because Daniel 7:23 says And he explained this to me the fourth animal is a fourth kingdom that will come on the earth. It will be diffrent from all the other kingdoms and will destroy people all over the world. It will walk on and crush the whole earth. There are many more verses that can attest to that as well in revelations. When I think about that and look at the history of America. We have had conflict in Bosnia, All of Europe, Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Korea, Somalia, Libya, Grenada even against ourself. There may be others but those are just the ones I know off the top of my head. To me that's proof enough but remember what I said at the start of this message.

Back to the start....This king will be diffrent from all the others....All the past American Presidents were white except for our current President, Obama. This King will speak against the Most High God....Now to be honest I have to stay away from the news now because it leads me to sin. But what I take that as is when Obama spoke against Isreal to give land back to Palestine. Not to mention if i'm not mistaken right after that the huge series of record number tornadoes tore across America. Not to mention when President Bush spoke against Isreal I think it was the next day hurricane Katrina slammed into the gulf.....He will hurt and kill God's holy people....I can't really place that one, I view it as America turning Thier back on Isreal maybe some one who knows a bit more than I do can speak on that......He will try to change times and laws that are already set....."Obama Care" comes into mind as well as what I feel are other "socialistic reforms"....but I'm not a political person so I couldn't tell you how else that applies but I will say this when you look at Socialism based on the population of this world alone it almost seems un-avoidable considering the population. Now I dont agree with socialism at all I feel everyone should have the freedom to make thier own choices God gave us that right as such we should always have that freedom. But it applies with the "one world government"....The holy people that belong to God will be in that kings power for three and one half years...I see this as Isreal and Chrisitans bieng powerless against what is currently going on....once again remember what I said at the start of this message.

So is Obama the Antichrist or does he have something to do with him? Read Daniel Chapter 8 because it has reference to a king and i'm not sure if it's refering to the same king "little horn". The date I listed above in the title of this will be 3 and one half years after The Presidents Inaguraton. And if that is true Daniel 7:26 but the court will decide what should happen. The power of the king will be taken away and his kingdom will be completly destroyed. Does that Mean America will be wiped off the earth? Is it just talking about his policy.....and the 3 and one half year thing what would cause his rule to stop then....death or resignation...once again remember what i said at the stat of this message.

The Whore of Babylon

Revelations Chapter 17 and 18

I wont go into this too much because I feel that no matter what I may recieve hatred for saying this.

I feel the Catholic Church is the main body in this reference. As well as any other church that instills teachings or traditions outside of the bible as well as any church who does not accept Jesus Christ and his sacrifice. Now i'm not saying the Catholic Church refutes Jesus Christ. What I am saying is the Confession Chamber in itself is Blasphemy against God. The Pharasies accused Jesus of Blasphemy when he forgave a man of his sins....He still lived thus proof to me of the Holy Trinity. I feel the Hail Mary is false worship...."All Praise and glory be to God" I feel baptism the way it is performed is not true baptism...read in the bible how jesus was baptised. I am in no way saying I hate Catholics or anyone who is Catholic. It's just what I gather from reading....once again remember what I said at the start of this message.

One thing I can say that I feel is certain though...Whether i'm right about these things or not we are living in the end of times....

 

[anonymous04]

btw i'm not anonymous my name is Christopher

 

[anonymous04]

And I also want to say....I am in no way saying that All members of the Catholic Faith are Evil. Or in anyway shape or form extending hatred towards anyone God says we are to love everyone. I just personally feel the teachings not in the bible should be removed from that church as well as every church.

 

[silverwind]

Well, here's an interesting fact that happened before BO came into office.In his 2008/Oct. speech (I believe it was the 29th)he promised great changes for the world, not only America. I have searched for this speech online and can't find it anymore. Now if you add 7 years to the beginning of the this speech you come to the exact date of September 23, 2015, which is also the day of Atonement, the 120th Jubilee year and some other interesting calculations. This leads me to believe that BO may have been the tool to set things in motion.
I can't shake the verse in Isaiah 24 that says this: 21 It shall come to pass in that day
That the LORD will punish on high the host of exalted ones,
And on the earth the kings of the earth.
22 They will be gathered together,
As prisoners are gathered in the pit,
Interesting ending to what I see as fallen angels working together with the kings of the earth resulting in punishment by God. ie: Illuminati, Bilderbergs, Bohemian Grove, Presidents, The Federal Reserve (kings of the earth) all play a role in this, not to mention the UFO phenomena. (host of exalted ones who need punishing??) Lots going on we are not *yet* fully aware of. (ask zone, lol)

 

[Scotth1960]

]I want to start of by saying Paul said in

romans we must discard all worldy thoughts. As such I cannot

affirm 100% that what i'm sharing is the truth of God. I can tell

you that as I was reading Daniel 7:24 something as if it were a

realization came. The verse says the ten horns are ten kings

who will come from this forth kingdom. After those ten kings

are gone another king will come. He will be different from the

kings who ruled before him and will defeat three of the other

kings. Verse 25, This King will speak against the Most High God

and he will hurt and kill God's holy people. He will try to change

times and laws that have already been set. The holy people that

belong to God will be in that king's power for three and one

half years.

I'll start off with this, I think America is the 4th Beast that is

referenced in Daniel as well as revelations. I think this because

Daniel 7:23 says And he explained this to me the fourth animal

is a fourth kingdom that will come on the earth. It will be

different from all the other kingdoms and will destroy people all

over the world. It will walk on and crush the whole earth. There

are many more verses that can attest to that as well in

revelations. When I think about that and look at the history of

America. We have had conflict in Bosnia, All of Europe, Iraq,

Afghanistan, Vietnam, Korea, Somalia, Libya, Grenada even

against ourselves. There may be others but those are just the

ones I know off the top of my head. To me that's proof

enough but remember what I said at the start of this message.

Back to the start....This king will be different from all the

others....All the past American Presidents were white except for

our current President, Obama. This King will speak against the

Most High God....Now to be honest I have to stay away from

the news now because it leads me to sin. But what I take that

as is when Obama spoke against Isreal to give land back to

Palestine. Not to mention if I'm not mistaken right after that the

huge series of record number tornadoes tore across America.

Not to mention when President Bush spoke against Israel I

think it was the next day hurricane Katrina slammed into the

gulf.....He will hurt and kill God's holy people....I can't really

place that one, I view it as America turning their backs on Israel

maybe some one who knows a bit more than I do can speak

on that......He will try to change times and laws that are already

set....."Obama Care" comes into mind as well as what I feel are

other "socialistic reforms"....but I'm not a political person so I

couldn't tell you how else that applies but I will say this when

you look at Socialism based on the population of this world

alone it almost seems un-avoidable considering the population.

Now I don't agree with socialism at all I feel everyone should

have the freedom to make their own choices God gave us that

right as such we should always have that freedom. But it

applies with the "one world government"....The holy people that

belong to God will be in that kings power for three and one half

years...I see this as Israel and Christians being powerless

against what is currently going on....once again remember what

I said at the start of this message.

So is Obama the Antichrist or does he have something to do

with him? Read Daniel Chapter 8 because it has reference to a

king and I'm not sure if it's referring to the same king "little

horn". The date I listed above in the title of this will be 3 and

one half years after The President's Inauguration. And if that is

true Daniel 7:26 but the court will decide what should happen.

The power of the king will be taken away and his kingdom will

be completly destroyed. Does that Mean America will be wiped

off the earth? Is it just talking about his policy.....and the 3 and

one half year thing what would cause his rule to stop

then....death or resignation...once again remember what i said

at the start of this message.

The Whore of Babylon

Revelations Chapter 17 and 18

I wont go into this too much because I feel that no matter

what I may receive hatred for saying this.

I feel the Catholic Church is the main body in this reference. As

well as any other church that instills teachings or traditions

outside of the bible as well as any church who does not accept

Jesus Christ and his sacrifice. Now I'm not saying the Catholic

Church refutes Jesus Christ. What I am saying is the Confession

Chamber in itself is Blasphemy against God. The Pharisees

accused Jesus of Blasphemy when he forgave a man of his

sins....He still lived thus proof to me of the Holy Trinity. I feel

the Hail Mary is false worship...."All Praise and glory be to God"

I feel baptism the way it is performed is not true baptism...read

in the bible how Jesus was baptized. I am in no way saying I

hate Catholics or anyone who is Catholic. It's just what I

gather from reading....once again remember what I said at the

start of this message.

One thing I can say that I feel is certain though...Whether I'm

right about these things or not we are living in the end of

times....".


Dear "anonymous04, I am not Roman catholic, but your

thread above is total nonsense. It plays a game that too many

sincerely deluded Christians play: "Pin the tail on the

"Antichrist". The Bible does not clearly identify that there

will be a future, final Antichrist in the future, however long the

earth remains and stays in existence, until the second coming

of our LORD God and Saviour Jesus Christ at the end-of-time.

The Church Fathers do not seem to be unanimous in teaching

a certain future Antichrist, nor are they all united in a clear

interpretation of the Book of Revelation. It would be better

not to try to interpret the Book of Revelation and fail miserably,

than to leave the book mostly alone. What is certain is that

much of the Book of Revelation refers not the far future, but

to the past 2000 years ago. The number 666 adds up in Greek

and Hebrew to Neron Caesar, Nero Caesar, and this

interpretation certainly alone makes sense. Looking for a future

beast and false prophet seems to be utter futility.

As for Roman Catholicism, it is in heresy and schism based on

its distortion against John 15:26 by saying in Latin language

"Filioque" "And the Son."

Revelation itself has severe warning against misinterpreting

it: "For I testify to every one that heareth the words of the

prophecy of this book. If any man shall add to these things,

God shall add unto him the plagues written in this book. And

if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this

prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book [or tree]

of life, and out of the holy city, and from these things that

are written in this book" [RHEIMS New Testament, Revelation

22:18-19]. There are various Greek manuscripts of the Book

of Revelation itself, and these do not all agree perfectly in every

last word. Some versions have "book of life" and some have

"tree of life", and the various English translations of Revelation

22:18-19 translate either "tree" or "book" of life. In any case,

it's better to leave the book of Revelation (and Daniel alone).

Some of Daniel is easier to understand than Revelation, though.

The prophecy of Daniel of the Seventy Weeks in Daniel 9:27

had already been fulfilled in Jesus Christ; Jesus Christ was

cut off (killed) after 3 1/2 years (from 27 AD to 30 AD), and

the mission of the Church to all the world to the Jews and to

the nations for 3 1/2 years until 34 AD completed the 70th

week of Daniel. After the Jews of Israel rejected Christ by

34 AD, the times of the Gentiles began, and the Church's

mission focused not on the lost sheep of Israel, but the lost

sheep among the Gentiles. But today there is a faithful

remnant of believing anointed Christians from among both

the Jews and all the Gentile nations, or many of the nations.

But many of the nations still remain unreached for Christ.

May God have mercy on the whole world in Christ Jesus (John

3:16, 2 Peter 3:9). God save us in Christ the Saviour: AMEN.

In Erie PA USA Scott R. Harrington, July 3/16, 2011 AD


PS Dear friends, Confessing one's sins to an Orthodox priest is certainly not blasphemy,

nor to others in general, for the Bible says in James to be confessing keep on confessing your faults

(sins), and pray for each other, that you may be healed. That's in the epistle of James: valid NT

Scripture. Not Roman Catholicism: NT Christianity.

 

[jonathanbchristian]

I don't think you have enough proof that America is what the Scripture is talking about. You said at one point you didn't know, so I don't think you do. For the record you forgot Japan, the place we nuked two cities. God forgive us as a nation for destroying those two cities. Alot of people don't believe America is even in Bible prophecy. I personally believe when it says Babylon it is really talking about the ancient place of Babylon. If you don't believe that there is a Babylon you may find it striking that it is Iraq and surrounding countries and the American Government just rebuilt that place, leaving it with massive prisons and structures that we built for millions of dollars. I was alarmed to find out we were pulling out of Iraq after building them such buildings. We may have contributed to Babylon. Saddam had the dream of restoring Babylon if the News is correct. You really will not find a Bible discription of America in prophecy. The locations mentioned are part of the original world so to speak. Jerusalem is in the prophecy and so is Babylon, both in another part of the World.

 

[anonymous04]

Ya know the whole time I was writing that I myself didn't stop to look at what I wrote about what Paul said.....As well as after reading what is posted below I feel like I shouldn't have even shared my thoughts at all....If I myself couldn't comfirm what I was saying was from God then I should have just kept my thoughts to myself and rebuked them in the first place. I think i've sinned in this and I apologize if this caused anyone's thoughts to be mislead....I'll leave this here to expose an example I guess maybe we should never even say what we think?...i've had such a struggle i've been asking god about that how do i know what i'm thinking is the truth or not? is it just my head? are you trying to tell me something?...i dont even know honestly even know if i've sinned by sharing my thoughts? When someone asked about a bible verse if i can't honestly gather that it's what gods telling me to speak even if it's to witness to help should I just not even try to help them by giving my thoughts on it? this is really been confusing me latley i've been praying about it...Like today I was talking to my mother about a dream that I had to me it meant something diffrent but she told me that God was telling her something diffrent...now i'm not saying my mother was lying to me but how do I know what she was saying was true? How do I know when the pastor at church is interpreting a verse if it's proper or not? Alot of people tell me you'll feel it but I honestly dont feel something every time knowledge is passed on to me....i guess i'm just confused I dont know how to dicern any truth or lie i just process it...now I know that the way is prayer and patience and to ask God to reveal it to me but how do i understand the signs?...even my dreams as of late I think god has been blessing me with them to show me something but how do I honestly know it's not a dream from a demon? I bielieve in God there is no doubt and I have accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and savior and I have been doing my best to lead a life like the bible teaches...but how do i dicern what is just my thoughts and what is something god is trying to tell me?....someone may give me advice on everything I just asked....how do i know they aren't trying to decieve me or if what they are saying is the truth...if they dont say God has told me should I bielieve them or even if they do say God has told me how can i tell the diffrence in truth or lie....I'm not trying to be doubting thomas here I guess i just want to feel certain about everything...maybe that's impossible maybe not...it's really mind boggling like it's not something that's causing pain or somethign i'm dwelling on but you get what i mean by what i'm saying?....forgive me if that throws anyone off balance or asking those questions were wrong and i'll ask god to forgive me too...I know the guilt of sin i've felt it before but I didn't honestly feel guilty for writing what I wrote I just thought that I should come back and say that I shouldn't have said that based on the fact that i couldn't confirm 100% that if it was my head thinking or god instilling....but at the same time even though i didn't feel the guilt of a sin it still could have been but guilt is the punishment for sin....blah i'm gonna stop i think you understand what i'm getting at i just dont understand. i even almost refute what i'm saying but bieng unsure about this....i dunno i'll leave it as it is

Test Number One: Deuteronomy 18:21-22:
"And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken? When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him."

Test Number Two: Numbers 12:6
"And he said, hear now my words: if there be a prophet among you, I the Lord will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream."


Test Number Three: Numbers 24:4 and 16
"He hath said, which heard the words of God, which saw the vision of the Almighty, falling into a trance, but having his eyes open...He hath said, which heard the words of God, and knew the knowledge of the most High, which saw the vision of the Almighty, falling into a trance, but having his eyes open:"

Test Number Four: Daniel 10:17
"For how can the servant of this my lord talk with this my lord? for as for me, straightway there remained no strength in me, neither is there breath left in me."
Another test of a true prophet is that they have no breath while in vision. In other words, they don't breathe. According to scripture, this is one of the miracles God performs to identify a genuine prophet. While in vision, they don't breathe.

Test Number Five: Daniel 10:18
"Then there came again and touched me one like the appearance of a man, and he strengthened me."
Before a vision, a prophet may be very weak in physical strength. But when taken in vision, a true prophet will suddenly receive supernatural strength.

Test Number Six: Jeremiah 28:9
"The prophet which prophesieth of peace, when the word of the prophet shall come to pass, then shall the prophet be known, that the Lord hath truly sent him."
A true prophet absolutely does not lie. His predictions will be one hundred percent fulfilled.

Test Number Seven: 2 Peter 1:20
"Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation."
A true prophet does not give his own interpretation of scripture. Every prophecy he or she proclaims will agree with already established truth. If they receive new light, it must agree with the old light God has already given.

Test Number Eight: 2 Peter 1:21
"For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost."
So, a true prophet prophesies in the name of the Lord, not in his own name. A true prophet will manifest the fruits of that same spirit because he or she speaks through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.

Test Number Nine: 1 Corinthians 14:3
"But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort."
In other words, a true prophet gives direction to God's true church. And a true prophet's messages will cover all of these three areas: Edification -- to instruct morally; Exhortation -- this means to strongly advise; and Comfort -- to soothe in distress or sorrow, to console. All of these three things will be exemplified by a true prophet.

Test Number Ten: Isaiah 8:19-20
"And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead? To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them."
God gives a clear distinction between false prophets and true prophets here -- between the works of hellish darkness, and the works of heavenly light.
How could it be any plainer? God says, "To the law," what's the law? It is the ten commandment law of God, " . . . and to the testimony . . ." What's the testimony? The "testimony" is the rest of scripture. " . . . If they speak not according to this word [the 10 commandments and the Bible], it is because they have no light in them."

Test Number Eleven: 1 John 4:1-3
"Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they, are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is in the world."
A true prophet believes in the incarnation of Jesus Christ, and will never question the fact that Jesus came in man's fallen nature, in our fallen flesh. The Bible says any person, or church, claiming that Jesus Christ came to this earth in any other way, than in the fallen flesh that you and I have, is the spirit of antichrist.

Test Number Twelve: Matthew 7:15-16
"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. . ."
In other words, look at what their ministry produces. If all they produce is a good time, with theme parks and water slides, and all they spend their time doing, is telling people to send them money, on the authority of the Word of God, that person is a false prophet.

 

[Laodicea]

A lot of what is said on this thread is "I Think" meaning people are uncertain as to the truth. What does the Bible say?

Daniel 7:23
(23) Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
Daniel 2:38-40
(38) And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou art this head of gold. (Babylon)
(39) And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee, and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth.
(40) And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.
Daniel 5:28
(28) PERES; Thy kingdom is divided, and given to the Medes and Persians
Daniel 8:20-21
(20) The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia.
(21) And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king.
Daniel 11:2
(2) And now will I shew thee the truth. Behold, there shall stand up yet three kings in Persia; and the fourth shall be far richer than they all: and by his strength through his riches he shall stir up all against the realm of Grecia.
Daniel 11:20
(20) Then shall stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes in the glory of the kingdom: but within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle.
Luke 2:1
(1) And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed.

So these verses tell us that the 4 kingdoms are:-
Babylon
Medo-Persia
Greece
Rome

In 476 AD Rome was divided into 10 nations and the little horn (antichrist) came up shortly after from among the nations of Europe. There is no break in the prophecy the Antichrist was already working in Paul's Day

2 Thessalonians 2:7
(7) For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
.

 

[Scotth1960]

A lot of what is said on this thread is "I Think" meaning people are uncertain as to the truth. What does the Bible say?

Daniel 7:23
(23) Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
Daniel 2:38-40
(38) And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou art this head of gold. (Babylon)
(39) And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee, and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth.
(40) And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.
Daniel 5:28
(28) PERES; Thy kingdom is divided, and given to the Medes and Persians
Daniel 8:20-21
(20) The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia.
(21) And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king.
Daniel 11:2
(2) And now will I shew thee the truth. Behold, there shall stand up yet three kings in Persia; and the fourth shall be far richer than they all: and by his strength through his riches he shall stir up all against the realm of Grecia.
Daniel 11:20
(20) Then shall stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes in the glory of the kingdom: but within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle.
Luke 2:1
(1) And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed.

So these verses tell us that the 4 kingdoms are:-
Babylon
Medo-Persia
Greece
Rome

In 476 AD Rome was divided into 10 nations and the little horn (antichrist) came up shortly after from among the nations of Europe. There is no break in the prophecy the Antichrist was already working in Paul's Day

2 Thessalonians 2:7
(7) For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
.

Protestants have historically stated that the papacy of Rome is the Antichrist, the pope of Rome is the Antichrist. Protestantism therefore comes out of the papacy. If Luther, as a Protestant, tried to "reform" the Antichrist, what you end up, all you end up with, is a Reformed Antichrist. It's still the same error that says "who proceeds from the Father" and adds the words "AND THE SON" (FILIOQUE), and FILIOQUE is from the Antichrist, but Luther actually fails to "reform" the Antichrist, and leaves the dogma of the popes of Rome since 1014 AD UNREFORMED. Therefore it's the "Antichrist's" FILIOQUE, if the pope is an Antichrist. Scripture actually says "antichrists", that there would be more than one Antichrist. Whether the pope of Rome since 1014 is an Antichrist, or just a heretic and schimatic, the same is true: Roman Catholicism is a heresy. And Protestantism, coming out of Catholicism, but failing to change much of it, is another heresy and/or a schism.
God bless us. God save us.

 

[Honey12]

I'm just throwing this out there, and it might seem slightly irrelevant.
Buuuut...

As much I dislike Obama, I don't think he's the antichrist or what a lot of people are making him out to be.
I feel like the antichrist, is going to be a lot smoother, and is going to fool a lot more people.

To be honest, I think it's going to come as a total surprise to everyone.
So don't hold your breath waiting for Obama.

 

[NoahsMom]

I feel like the antichrist, is going to be a lot smoother, and is going to fool a lot more people.
MHM... I agree.