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Question Who is Satan REALLY ?

For many, Life is miserable, each day millions of people suffer in mind and body. The suicide rate, it at an all time high. It is NOT limited to certain people. All people, of all races, ages, are faced with the desicion whether or not to contemplate suicide.

How about you ? Have you ever felt like suicide would be a relife to your suffering. Do you wonder why others, seem to have such a great life, and your own seems so miserable ? Have you ever wondered whether, things are really happening to you, or whether YOU ARE LOSING YOUR MIND ?

THERE IS A REASON, THAT THERE IS SO MUCH MISERY ! IT IS NOT IN YOUR IMAGINATION.

SOMEONE IS OUT TO GET YOU !

Do you know who it is ?

Rev 12 says...

7 Then there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon and his angels. 8 And the dragon lost the battle, and he and his angels were forced out of heaven. 9 This great dragon—the ANCIENT SERPENT the one called DEVIL, and SATAN, the one deceiving the whole world—was thrown down to the earth with all his angels.

12 Therefore, rejoice, O heavens!
And you who live in the heavens, rejoice!
But terror will come on the earth and the sea,
for the DEVIL has come down to you in GREAT ANGER,
knowing that he has little time.”


According to this text Satan is here on earth, AND HE IS PISSED !

Why should YOU care ?

1 pet 5 says...

8 Stay alert! Watch out for YOUR great enemy, the DEVIL. He prowls around like a roaring lion, looking for someone to devour.

Notice this IS NOT a general statement, it does not say THE ENEMY, it says... ( YOUR ) ENEMY ! Thats personal ! If he is YOUR ENEMY, that means he is OUT TO GET YOU !

Heres a breif summary of SATAN'S actions in the bible, CAN YOU DISCERN THE PATTERN ?

SATAN ...

In genesis

- Just ( happened ) to be LURKING around EVE
- Lied on GOD, but DIDNT challenge his power
- asserted that God was SELFISH, and witholding good things
- Decieved EVE and Adam
- RUINED their life
- Suddenly disappears

SATAN in JOB's day

- Just ( happened) to be lurking around JOB
- Asserted that Job was not loyal
- Defiant, but still careful NOT TO CHALLENGE GODS POWER
- RUINED JOBS LIFE
- TOOK EVERYTHING JOB LOVED( killing his family)
- DECIEVED JOB TO BELIVE GOD HATED HIM
- ALMOST CAUSED JOB TO COMMIT SUCICDE
-Disappears SUDDENLY



Notice the affect this had on Job...

11"Why(F) did I not die at birth,
come out from the womb and expire?
12Why did(G) the knees receive me?
Or why the breasts, that I should nurse?
13For then I would have lain down and been quiet;
I would have slept; then I would have been at rest,
14with kings and counselors of the earth
who(H) rebuilt ruins for themselves,
15or with princes who had gold,
who filled their houses with silver.
16Or why was I not as a hidden(I) stillborn child,
as infants who never see the light?
17There the wicked cease from troubling,
and there the weary are at(J) rest.

Satan is thrilled when innocent people commit sucide !

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Satan in Jesus day

- Just happened to be LURKING around when Jesus was at his weakest
- Tried to lure Jesus to misuse his power
- tried 3 diffrent tactics to tempt Jesus
- Followed Jesus around
- LATER USES JUDAS TO BETRAY JESUS
- LEAVES JUDAS TO COMMIT SUICIDE
- DISAPPEARS SUDDENLY


Notice the subtly in SATANs tactics. Imagine the confusion Job must have felt as So many things happened to him all at once. He probably thought he was losing his mind ! He probably wondered, why he cant be HAPPY like others

Satan STALKED these people JUST LIKE A LION . He is still doing the same thing today ! Why should he change is tactic, if it is EFFECTIVE.

Thankfully Jehovah God has given us his written word the bible. He preserved it so when these bad things start happening to us... WE WOULD NOT BE CONFUSED AS TO WHY ITS HAPPENING !

Do you have to be afraid of SATAN ? NO

You see, Satan is AFRAID of Almighty God Jehovah ! That why the bible says at james 4:7...

So humble yourselves before God. Resist the devil, and HE WILL FLEE !

Actually Satan is a COWARDLY BULLY, but when someone his own size comes around... he turns to a YELLOW BELLIED COWARD !


Satan is conquered, When we resist his influence and resist his WICKED LIES that God hate us, and cause bad things to happen to us. Satans goal is ! to smear Gods reputation, and make us belive that God is cruel like he is. The bible teaches that "God is love" So its up to us to point the finger at the real causs of wickedness !
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lol your poll is full of questions how is anyone suppose to vote on that?
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For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.


2 Corinthians 2:15-17
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15 For we are to God the fragrance of Christ among those who are being saved and among those who are perishing. 16 To the one we are the aroma of death leading to death, and to the other the aroma of life leading to life. And who is sufficient for these things? 17 For we are not, as so many,[a] peddling the word of God; but as of sincerity, but as from God, we speak in the sight of God in Christ..


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15 Andlet the peace of God rule in your hearts, to which also you were called in one body; and be thankful. 16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom, teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. 17 And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him.
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There are consequences to everything we do in life. Some good. Some bad. As far as God "punishing" someone, well...yes. I guess in a way that is a form of consequence to wrongdoing.
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ofcourse god permits everyone to reap what we sow. and i'v seen many blaming God for their mistake. poll should have sentences to vote
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Yes i know from what ive been learning online that God uses Satan to punish us and

its because god created Satan and Satan causes all the bad stuff that happeneds to us but God

just sits back and lets it all happen God knew all along what Satan would do but Gods love

is so strong that he created the Serpent/Devil anyway -_-


at last now i know why i always have to look like this


when i mess up i hate that i cant be myself or i will go to

hell i dont wont to go to hell my life just sucks
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For many, Life is miserable, each day millions of people suffer in mind and body. The suicide rate, it at an all time high. It is NOT limited to certain people. All people, of all races, ages, are faced with the desicion whether or not to contemplate suicide.

How about you ? Have you ever felt like suicide would be a relife to your suffering. Do you wonder why others, seem to have such a great life, and your own seems so miserable ? Have you ever wondered whether, things are really happening to you, or whether YOU ARE LOSING YOUR MIND ?

THERE IS A REASON, THAT THERE IS SO MUCH MISERY ! IT IS NOT IN YOUR IMAGINATION.

SOMEONE IS OUT TO GET YOU !

Do you know who it is ?

Rev 12 says...

7 Then there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon and his angels. 8 And the dragon lost the battle, and he and his angels were forced out of heaven. 9 This great dragon—the ANCIENT SERPENT the one called DEVIL, and SATAN, the one deceiving the whole world—was thrown down to the earth with all his angels.

12 Therefore, rejoice, O heavens!
And you who live in the heavens, rejoice!
But terror will come on the earth and the sea,
for the DEVIL has come down to you in GREAT ANGER,
knowing that he has little time.”


According to this text Satan is here on earth, AND HE IS PISSED !

Why should YOU care ?

1 pet 5 says...

8 Stay alert! Watch out for YOUR great enemy, the DEVIL. He prowls around like a roaring lion, looking for someone to devour.

Notice this IS NOT a general statement, it does not say THE ENEMY, it says... ( YOUR ) ENEMY ! Thats personal ! If he is YOUR ENEMY, that means he is OUT TO GET YOU !

Heres a breif summary of SATAN'S actions in the bible, CAN YOU DISCERN THE PATTERN ?

SATAN ...

In genesis

- Just ( happened ) to be LURKING around EVE
- Lied on GOD, but DIDNT challenge his power
- asserted that God was SELFISH, and witholding good things
- Decieved EVE and Adam
- RUINED their life
- Suddenly disappears

SATAN in JOB's day

- Just ( happened) to be lurking around JOB
- Asserted that Job was not loyal
- Defiant, but still careful NOT TO CHALLENGE GODS POWER
- RUINED JOBS LIFE
- TOOK EVERYTHING JOB LOVED( killing his family)
- DECIEVED JOB TO BELIVE GOD HATED HIM
- ALMOST CAUSED JOB TO COMMIT SUCICDE
-Disappears SUDDENLY



Notice the affect this had on Job...

11"Why(F) did I not die at birth,
come out from the womb and expire?
12Why did(G) the knees receive me?
Or why the breasts, that I should nurse?
13For then I would have lain down and been quiet;
I would have slept; then I would have been at rest,
14with kings and counselors of the earth
who(H) rebuilt ruins for themselves,
15or with princes who had gold,
who filled their houses with silver.
16Or why was I not as a hidden(I) stillborn child,
as infants who never see the light?
17There the wicked cease from troubling,
and there the weary are at(J) rest.

Satan is thrilled when innocent people commit sucide !

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Satan in Jesus day

- Just happened to be LURKING around when Jesus was at his weakest
- Tried to lure Jesus to misuse his power
- tried 3 diffrent tactics to tempt Jesus
- Followed Jesus around
- LATER USES JUDAS TO BETRAY JESUS
- LEAVES JUDAS TO COMMIT SUICIDE
- DISAPPEARS SUDDENLY


Notice the subtly in SATANs tactics. Imagine the confusion Job must have felt as So many things happened to him all at once. He probably thought he was losing his mind ! He probably wondered, why he cant be HAPPY like others

Satan STALKED these people JUST LIKE A LION . He is still doing the same thing today ! Why should he change is tactic, if it is EFFECTIVE.

Thankfully Jehovah God has given us his written word the bible. He preserved it so when these bad things start happening to us... WE WOULD NOT BE CONFUSED AS TO WHY ITS HAPPENING !

Do you have to be afraid of SATAN ? NO

You see, Satan is AFRAID of Almighty God Jehovah ! That why the bible says at james 4:7...

So humble yourselves before God. Resist the devil, and HE WILL FLEE !

Actually Satan is a COWARDLY BULLY, but when someone his own size comes around... he turns to a YELLOW BELLIED COWARD !


Satan is conquered, When we resist his influence and resist his WICKED LIES that God hate us, and cause bad things to happen to us. Satans goal is ! to smear Gods reputation, and make us belive that God is cruel like he is. The bible teaches that "God is love" So its up to us to point the finger at the real causs of wickedness !
Yes and Gods love is what created Satan right?

which is why i am always looking

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When you find out who Satan Really is, you'll say, is this "The Man"


And realize how important it is to Renew the spirit of the MIND daily.

Isa 14:16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Isthis the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;
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Yes i know from what ive been learning online that God uses Satan to punish us and

its because god created Satan and Satan causes all the bad stuff that happeneds to us but God
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You should be learning much more better, even online there are some very good resources on this topic, just search properly.

And if you have enough of courage, you could read some book from Augustin or Leibniz on this, but its very hard (and very good).
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Yes and Gods love is what created Satan right?

which is why i am always looking


Yes, It may be hard to understand, but yes.
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Satan wasnt always bad though. I dont believe God creates anything bad, but it can become bad because God gives us free will.
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Godsave meifyou really exist...sorry, I know I'm new here, but shew, you really need to get a grip. So full of self pity. God is God and does not have to answer to us. We have to answer to Him. You are young and alive. Thank God for this. Look at CHC, she has been, and is going through a lot, to say the least, and she doesn't winge and whine like you do. Take a trip to your nearest oncology ward, and then come back here and cry baby about what? Tsk!
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