TRUE BIBLICAL SABBATH, NOT MAN'S SABBATH

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There are so many debates about Sabbath, when Scripture is so clear from front to back about what God wants us to do with it, in it and on it!

So instead of a bunch of my comments, I'm going to let God's Word do all the talking.

First the OT verses.

Exodus 16: 23,25-26,29 23)Then he said to them, " Then he said to them, "This is what the Lord has said; "Tomorrow is a Sabbath rest, a Holy Sabbath to the Lord. Bake what you will bake today, and boil what you will boil; and lay up for yourselves all that remains, to be kept until morning.
25) Then Moses said, " Eat that today, for today is a Sabbath to the Lord; today you will not find it in the field.
26) "Six days you shall gather it, but on the SEVENTH DAY, THE SABBATH DAY, there will be none."
29)"See! For the has given you the Sabbath; therefore He gives you on the sixth day bread for two days. Let every man remain in his place; let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.

Leviticus 16:31 It is a Sabbath of solemn rest for you, and you shall afflict your souls. It is a STATUTE FOREVER.
Leviticus 23:3 Six days shall work be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of solemn rest, a Holy convocation. YOU SHALL DO NO WORK ON IT; it is THE Sabbath of the Lord in all your dwellings.
Leviticus 24:8 Every Sabbath he shall set it in order before the Lord continually, being taken from the children of Israel by an EVERLASTING COVENANT.
Leviticus 25:4 But in the seventh year there shall be a Sabbath of solemn rest for the land, a Sabbath to the Lord. You shall neither sow your field nor prune your vineyard.

Deuteronomy 5:12 Observe the Sabbath day, to keep it Holy, as the Lord your God COMMANDED YOU.

Nehemiah 13:15-18 15)In those days I saw people in Judah treading wine presses on the Sabbath, and bringing in sheaves, and loading donkeys with wine, grapes, figs, and all kinds of burdens, which they brought into Jerusalem on the Sabbath day. And I warned them about the day on which they wre selling provisions.
16) Men of Tyre dwelt there also, who brought in fish and all kinds of goods, and sold them on the Sabbath to the children of Judah, and in Jerusalem.
17) Then I contended with the nobles of Judah, and said to them, "what evil thing is this that you do, by which you PROFANE THE SABBATH DAY?
18) Did not your fathers do thus, and did not our God bring all this disaster on us and on this city? Yet you bring added wrath on Israel by PROFANING THE SABBATH."

Psalm 92 , whole chapter is a song for the Sabbath, wow a song for the Sabbath, that makes me think, Sabbath is special to God. Hmmmm, something to think about.

Isaiah 56: 2, 6 2) Blessed is the man who does this, And the son of man who lays hold on it; Who KEEPS FROM DEFILLING THE SABBATH, and keeps his hand from doing any evil.
6) Also the sons of the FOREIGNER who join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him. And to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants, Everyone who keeps from DEFILLING THE SABBATH, AND HOLDS FAST MY COVENANT.

NOW FOR THE NT VERSES.

Matt. 12:12 "Of how much more value then is a man than a sheep? Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath."

Mark 1:21 Then they went into Capernaum, and immediately on the Sabbath He entered the Synagogue and taught.
Mark 15:42 Now when evening had come, because it was the PREPARATION DAY, that is, the day before the Sabbath.

Luke 4:16 So He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up. And as His CUSTOM was , He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to read.
Luke 4:31 Then He went down to Capernaum, a city of Galilee, and was teaching them on the SABBATHS.
Luke 13:10 Now He was teaching in one of the synagogues on the Sabbath.
Luke 23:56 Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils. And they RESTED on the Sabbath ACCORDING TO THE COMMANDMENT.

Acts 13:42 So when the Jews went out of the synagogue, the GENTILES BEGGED that these words might be preached to them the NEXT SABBATH.
Acts 15:21 "For Moses has had throughout many generations those who preach him in every city being read in the synagogues every Sabbath.
Acts 17:2 Then Paul, as his CUSTOM was, went in to them, and for three Sabbaths reasoned with them from the Scriptures.
Acts 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded the jews and the greeks.

There are even more, so we see here, that Sabbath is just as relevant in the NT as in the OT. It has not gone away or changed as some would believe. It is a commandment for all to keep. We have no excuses.

Shalom, Avinu
 
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“ Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it. Ex.20

God doesnt change. This is the 4th Commandment.
 

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There's a passage in Hebrews 4 that could also be applied here..
 
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Dear Avinu, "Let no one therefore judge you in food, or in drink, or in part of a feast, or a new moon, or sabbath days, which are a shadow of things to come, but the body is Christ" (Colossians 2:16-17 ONT (Orthodox New Testament, Volume 2); page 315, q.v.).
2:16 Saint Chrysostom: "In part of a feast" (en merei heortes). They dared not to keep the whole feast, and if they did keep it, yet not so as to celebrate the feast. "In part," he says, showing that the greater part is done away. For even if they did keep Sabbath, they did not do so with precision." [Hom. 7, PG, 62:371 (col. 343).]. (ONT, vol. 2, page 326.)
In Erie PA Scott R. Harrington PS Keeping the seventh Day Sabbath is not necessary for salvation. Sabbath days are "a shadow of things to come, but the body is Christ" (Col. 2:16). Christ is salvation: not sabbath keeping.


There are so many debates about Sabbath, when Scripture is so clear from front to back about what God wants us to do with it, in it and on it!

So instead of a bunch of my comments, I'm going to let God's Word do all the talking.

First the OT verses.

Exodus 16: 23,25-26,29 23)Then he said to them, " Then he said to them, "This is what the Lord has said; "Tomorrow is a Sabbath rest, a Holy Sabbath to the Lord. Bake what you will bake today, and boil what you will boil; and lay up for yourselves all that remains, to be kept until morning.
25) Then Moses said, " Eat that today, for today is a Sabbath to the Lord; today you will not find it in the field.
26) "Six days you shall gather it, but on the SEVENTH DAY, THE SABBATH DAY, there will be none."
29)"See! For the has given you the Sabbath; therefore He gives you on the sixth day bread for two days. Let every man remain in his place; let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.

Leviticus 16:31 It is a Sabbath of solemn rest for you, and you shall afflict your souls. It is a STATUTE FOREVER.
Leviticus 23:3 Six days shall work be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of solemn rest, a Holy convocation. YOU SHALL DO NO WORK ON IT; it is THE Sabbath of the Lord in all your dwellings.
Leviticus 24:8 Every Sabbath he shall set it in order before the Lord continually, being taken from the children of Israel by an EVERLASTING COVENANT.
Leviticus 25:4 But in the seventh year there shall be a Sabbath of solemn rest for the land, a Sabbath to the Lord. You shall neither sow your field nor prune your vineyard.

Deuteronomy 5:12 Observe the Sabbath day, to keep it Holy, as the Lord your God COMMANDED YOU.

Nehemiah 13:15-18 15)In those days I saw people in Judah treading wine presses on the Sabbath, and bringing in sheaves, and loading donkeys with wine, grapes, figs, and all kinds of burdens, which they brought into Jerusalem on the Sabbath day. And I warned them about the day on which they wre selling provisions.
16) Men of Tyre dwelt there also, who brought in fish and all kinds of goods, and sold them on the Sabbath to the children of Judah, and in Jerusalem.
17) Then I contended with the nobles of Judah, and said to them, "what evil thing is this that you do, by which you PROFANE THE SABBATH DAY?
18) Did not your fathers do thus, and did not our God bring all this disaster on us and on this city? Yet you bring added wrath on Israel by PROFANING THE SABBATH."

Psalm 92 , whole chapter is a song for the Sabbath, wow a song for the Sabbath, that makes me think, Sabbath is special to God. Hmmmm, something to think about.

Isaiah 56: 2, 6 2) Blessed is the man who does this, And the son of man who lays hold on it; Who KEEPS FROM DEFILLING THE SABBATH, and keeps his hand from doing any evil.
6) Also the sons of the FOREIGNER who join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him. And to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants, Everyone who keeps from DEFILLING THE SABBATH, AND HOLDS FAST MY COVENANT.

NOW FOR THE NT VERSES.

Matt. 12:12 "Of how much more value then is a man than a sheep? Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath."

Mark 1:21 Then they went into Capernaum, and immediately on the Sabbath He entered the Synagogue and taught.
Mark 15:42 Now when evening had come, because it was the PREPARATION DAY, that is, the day before the Sabbath.

Luke 4:16 So He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up. And as His CUSTOM was , He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to read.
Luke 4:31 Then He went down to Capernaum, a city of Galilee, and was teaching them on the SABBATHS.
Luke 13:10 Now He was teaching in one of the synagogues on the Sabbath.
Luke 23:56 Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils. And they RESTED on the Sabbath ACCORDING TO THE COMMANDMENT.

Acts 13:42 So when the Jews went out of the synagogue, the GENTILES BEGGED that these words might be preached to them the NEXT SABBATH.
Acts 15:21 "For Moses has had throughout many generations those who preach him in every city being read in the synagogues every Sabbath.
Acts 17:2 Then Paul, as his CUSTOM was, went in to them, and for three Sabbaths reasoned with them from the Scriptures.
Acts 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded the jews and the greeks.

There are even more, so we see here, that Sabbath is just as relevant in the NT as in the OT. It has not gone away or changed as some would believe. It is a commandment for all to keep. We have no excuses.

Shalom, Avinu
 
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God want's 7 days a week 24 hours a day. Due to man's limitations we all require sleep.

Every day is holy unto the Lord.

I don't recall Jesus or his Apostles taking a day off. I do read about how the pharisee's harassed Jesus for healing on the Sabbath.

The time is short, the workers are few and the harvest is great, and some people wanna take a day off.

That reminds me of a of an ancient Hawaiian story that I just made up.

Imagine working in a field with a few others, and having a large group of people show up with lawn chairs, ice chest's and BBQ grills to watch you work, then make critical comment's about the job you are doing.

Please provide New Testament teachings that say we are suppose to rest or take a day off.

When we die an earthly death, its time to put your pencils down and pass your test forward, its done and you don't get a redo.
 
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Dear Avinu, "Let no one therefore judge you in food, or in drink, or in part of a feast, or a new moon, or sabbath days, which are a shadow of things to come, but the body is Christ" (Colossians 2:16-17 ONT (Orthodox New Testament, Volume 2); page 315, q.v.).
2:16 Saint Chrysostom: "In part of a feast" (en merei heortes). They dared not to keep the whole feast, and if they did keep it, yet not so as to celebrate the feast. "In part," he says, showing that the greater part is done away. For even if they did keep Sabbath, they did not do so with precision." [Hom. 7, PG, 62:371 (col. 343).]. (ONT, vol. 2, page 326.)
In Erie PA Scott R. Harrington PS Keeping the seventh Day Sabbath is not necessary for salvation. Sabbath days are "a shadow of things to come, but the body is Christ" (Col. 2:16). Christ is salvation: not sabbath keeping.
Scott, you are making an arguement against God's own Word. Also, who said keeping Sabbath had anything to do with salvation, I really wish people would pay attention to what is written. So your whole arguement here is futile. And scripture says in the NT as I have it in the many verses put in the thread, Sabbath is a commandment, period. Shalom
 
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Please provide New Testament teachings that say we are suppose to rest or take a day off.
Nalu, I have to assume you didn't read all the verses, or you wouldn't be asking for this. Shalom
 

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Galatians 5


1Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
2Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
3For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
5For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
6For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.
7Ye did run well; who did hinder you that ye should not obey the truth?
8This persuasion cometh not of him that calleth you.
9A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.
10I have confidence in you through the Lord, that ye will be none otherwise minded: but he that troubleth you shall bear his judgment, whosoever he be.
11And I, brethren, if I yet preach circumcision, why do I yet suffer persecution? then is the offence of the cross ceased.
12I would they were even cut off which trouble you.
13For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
14For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
15But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
16This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
17For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. 18But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

 
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There are so many debates about Sabbath, when Scripture is so clear from front to back about what God wants us to do with it, in it and on it!

So instead of a bunch of my comments, I'm going to let God's Word do all the talking.

First the OT verses.

Exodus 16: 23,25-26,29 23)Then he said to them, " Then he said to them, "This is what the Lord has said; "Tomorrow is a Sabbath rest, a Holy Sabbath to the Lord. Bake what you will bake today, and boil what you will boil; and lay up for yourselves all that remains, to be kept until morning.
25) Then Moses said, " Eat that today, for today is a Sabbath to the Lord; today you will not find it in the field.
26) "Six days you shall gather it, but on the SEVENTH DAY, THE SABBATH DAY, there will be none."
29)"See! For the has given you the Sabbath; therefore He gives you on the sixth day bread for two days. Let every man remain in his place; let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.

Leviticus 16:31 It is a Sabbath of solemn rest for you, and you shall afflict your souls. It is a STATUTE FOREVER.
Leviticus 23:3 Six days shall work be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of solemn rest, a Holy convocation. YOU SHALL DO NO WORK ON IT; it is THE Sabbath of the Lord in all your dwellings.
Leviticus 24:8 Every Sabbath he shall set it in order before the Lord continually, being taken from the children of Israel by an EVERLASTING COVENANT.
Leviticus 25:4 But in the seventh year there shall be a Sabbath of solemn rest for the land, a Sabbath to the Lord. You shall neither sow your field nor prune your vineyard.

Deuteronomy 5:12 Observe the Sabbath day, to keep it Holy, as the Lord your God COMMANDED YOU.

Nehemiah 13:15-18 15)In those days I saw people in Judah treading wine presses on the Sabbath, and bringing in sheaves, and loading donkeys with wine, grapes, figs, and all kinds of burdens, which they brought into Jerusalem on the Sabbath day. And I warned them about the day on which they wre selling provisions.
16) Men of Tyre dwelt there also, who brought in fish and all kinds of goods, and sold them on the Sabbath to the children of Judah, and in Jerusalem.
17) Then I contended with the nobles of Judah, and said to them, "what evil thing is this that you do, by which you PROFANE THE SABBATH DAY?
18) Did not your fathers do thus, and did not our God bring all this disaster on us and on this city? Yet you bring added wrath on Israel by PROFANING THE SABBATH."

Psalm 92 , whole chapter is a song for the Sabbath, wow a song for the Sabbath, that makes me think, Sabbath is special to God. Hmmmm, something to think about.

Isaiah 56: 2, 6 2) Blessed is the man who does this, And the son of man who lays hold on it; Who KEEPS FROM DEFILLING THE SABBATH, and keeps his hand from doing any evil.
6) Also the sons of the FOREIGNER who join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him. And to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants, Everyone who keeps from DEFILLING THE SABBATH, AND HOLDS FAST MY COVENANT.

NOW FOR THE NT VERSES.

Matt. 12:12 "Of how much more value then is a man than a sheep? Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath."

Mark 1:21 Then they went into Capernaum, and immediately on the Sabbath He entered the Synagogue and taught.
Mark 15:42 Now when evening had come, because it was the PREPARATION DAY, that is, the day before the Sabbath.

Luke 4:16 So He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up. And as His CUSTOM was , He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to read.
Luke 4:31 Then He went down to Capernaum, a city of Galilee, and was teaching them on the SABBATHS.
Luke 13:10 Now He was teaching in one of the synagogues on the Sabbath.
Luke 23:56 Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils. And they RESTED on the Sabbath ACCORDING TO THE COMMANDMENT.

Acts 13:42 So when the Jews went out of the synagogue, the GENTILES BEGGED that these words might be preached to them the NEXT SABBATH.
Acts 15:21 "For Moses has had throughout many generations those who preach him in every city being read in the synagogues every Sabbath.
Acts 17:2 Then Paul, as his CUSTOM was, went in to them, and for three Sabbaths reasoned with them from the Scriptures.
Acts 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded the jews and the greeks.

There are even more, so we see here, that Sabbath is just as relevant in the NT as in the OT. It has not gone away or changed as some would believe. It is a commandment for all to keep. We have no excuses.

Shalom, Avinu
Amen. There is no text in the Bible which says to keep the first day (Sunday) holy. Also I was wathching a sermon the other day and the pastor from the USA said he will give $1000 to anyone who can show him a text that says to keep the first day (Sunday) holy.

The text in Collossians does not say not to keep the sabbath only let no man judge you. Jesus was against the pharisees for how they kept the sabbath but He was not against the sabbath. To keep the sabbath the way the pharisees kept it is to be under bondage but, to keep if the way Jesus taught is not.
 
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Nalu, I have to assume you didn't read all the verses, or you wouldn't be asking for this. Shalom
I asked for the New Testament scripture saying we could take a day off?
 
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Amen. There is no text in the Bible which says to keep the first day (Sunday) holy. Also I was wathching a sermon the other day and the pastor from the USA said he will give $1000 to anyone who can show him a text that says to keep the first day (Sunday) holy.

The text in Collossians does not say not to keep the sabbath only let no man judge you. Jesus was against the pharisees for how they kept the sabbath but He was not against the sabbath. To keep the sabbath the way the pharisees kept it is to be under bondage but, to keep if the way Jesus taught is not.
Lao, here we are in agreement, amen. Shalom
 
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I asked for the New Testament scripture saying we could take a day off?
Nalu, did you read all the NT testament verses that I put in the original post about Sabbath?
No one said anything about taking a day off as you put it, this thread is about keeping the commandment of Sabbath as I have shown ample proof through the 30 plus verses that I put in it. And part of that commandment says to rest on that day in God. This has nothing to do with Yeshua/Jesus healing on the Sabbath. As it says in the 4th commandment you shall not work or labor etc, and to keep it Holy. To say everyday is Holy is irelevent, God commands to keep this particular day Holy and set apart unto Him. Please go back and read all the verses that I've already provided. Shalom
 

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Avinu!!!!!!!! How are ya! I bet you missed me didn't ya? That's ok. You don't have to admit it. I know you did! ;)

Ok, here is what I discovered from the NT.

Matthew 28:1 1 After the Sabbath, at dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to look at the tomb (Jesus rose from the grave on the first day of the week)...Also Mark 16:2, Luke 24:1, and John 20:1 all record where Jesus rose on the first day of the week.

Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John were all written years after the actual events occurred and the writers would have already been participating in first century worship long before they picked up the inspired pen to jot these things down. So it is not without reason that they all mention that Jesus was resurrected upon the first day of the week. Yet at this point in our discussion we know not what that reason might be. But it would certainly be fitting to say that we meet upon the first day of the week because that was the day in which our Lord was raised.

We find that the preaching of the first gospel sermon and the terms of the entrance into the kingdom of God was upon the first day of the week. Acts 2 states that the apostles met together on the day of the Pentecost.
The day of Pentecost was fifty days after the Passover Sabbath according to Leviticus 23:15, 16. So fifty days later would be forty-nine days (seven weeks) plus one day. Seven weeks from the Sabbath would be on a Saturday, so the fiftieth day would be on a Sunday or the first day of the week. Acts 2:41,42 we read the following, "Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued steadfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers."

There is also Acts 20:7 7 On the first day of the week we came together to break bread. Paul spoke to the people and, because he intended to leave the next day, kept on talking until midnight.

Revelation 1:10
10 On the Lord’s Day I was in the Spirit, and I heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet,

from the evidence that is contained within the scriptures we may come to the conclusion that early Christians worshipped upon the first day of the week. They partook of the Lord's supper upon the first day of the week. They gave of their means upon the first day of the week. This day came to be known as the Lord's day.


Am I making sense here?
 

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Amen. There is no text in the Bible which says to keep the first day (Sunday) holy. Also I was wathching a sermon the other day and the pastor from the USA said he will give $1000 to anyone who can show him a text that says to keep the first day (Sunday) holy.

The text in Collossians does not say not to keep the sabbath only let no man judge you. Jesus was against the pharisees for how they kept the sabbath but He was not against the sabbath. To keep the sabbath the way the pharisees kept it is to be under bondage but, to keep if the way Jesus taught is not.
i guess i would want to see how Jesus taught to keep the sabbath.
 

zone

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Nalu, did you read all the NT testament verses that I put in the original post about Sabbath?
No one said anything about taking a day off as you put it, this thread is about keeping the commandment of Sabbath as I have shown ample proof through the 30 plus verses that I put in it. And part of that commandment says to rest on that day in God. This has nothing to do with Yeshua/Jesus healing on the Sabbath. As it says in the 4th commandment you shall not work or labor etc, and to keep it Holy. To say everyday is Holy is irelevent, God commands to keep this particular day Holy and set apart unto Him. Please go back and read all the verses that I've already provided. Shalom
hi avinu.
tomorrow i wanted to address those passages (if i am well enough)
zone.
 

Grandpa

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I asked for the New Testament scripture saying we could take a day off?
The funny thing is that the word sabbath means REST FROM WORK. LOL
 
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The sabbath is meant to be a delight
Isaiah 58:13-14
(13) If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:
(14) Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.


The Jews made it a burden
Matthew 23:4
(4) For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.


These are some of the teachings of Jesus on the Sabbath
Matthew 12:1-8
(1) At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn, and to eat.
(2) But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day.
(3) But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him;
(4) How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priests?
(5) Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?
(6) But I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the temple.
(7) But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.
(8) For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.
Matthew 12:10-12
(10) And, behold, there was a man which had his hand withered. And they asked him, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath days? that they might accuse him.
(11) And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift it out?
(12) How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.
Luke 13:16
(16) And ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the sabbath day?

Most of Jesus healing was done on the sabbath Jesus taught the correct meaning of the sabbath. Jesus kept the sabbath in His death He died on Friday, rested in the grave on Sabbath and rose on the 1st day. Has Jesus changed now that he is in Heaven?

Hebrews 13:8
(8) Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

Matthew 11:28-30
(28) Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
(29) Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
(30) For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.







 

JaumeJ

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Scott, you are making an arguement against God's own Word. Also, who said keeping Sabbath had anything to do with salvation, I really wish people would pay attention to what is written. So your whole arguement here is futile. And scripture says in the NT as I have it in the many verses put in the thread, Sabbath is a commandment, period. Shalom
My heart's desire is to share in God's Sabbath, the seventh day, I had nothing to do with the first day, and I sure do not want to replace the rewards of the seventh day with those of the first day. The Sabbath is directed by God, and being the Seventh Day is important at all levels. We must also obey the Ten Commandments. I will stick with honoring the Father by observing the Sabbath the same day my Lord and Savior did. Yes, we are permitted to do good on the Sabbath, but nowhere were we commanded to change the order of the week. It is a great blessing to obey our Dad, and it is apostasy to change His Word, an abomination. Blessed be the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, in Jesus Christ's name, amen.
 
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Avinu!!!!!!!! How are ya! I bet you missed me didn't ya? That's ok. You don't have to admit it. I know you did! ;)

Ok, here is what I discovered from the NT.

Matthew 28:1 1 After the Sabbath, at dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to look at the tomb (Jesus rose from the grave on the first day of the week)...Also Mark 16:2, Luke 24:1, and John 20:1 all record where Jesus rose on the first day of the week.

Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John were all written years after the actual events occurred and the writers would have already been participating in first century worship long before they picked up the inspired pen to jot these things down. So it is not without reason that they all mention that Jesus was resurrected upon the first day of the week. Yet at this point in our discussion we know not what that reason might be. But it would certainly be fitting to say that we meet upon the first day of the week because that was the day in which our Lord was raised.

We find that the preaching of the first gospel sermon and the terms of the entrance into the kingdom of God was upon the first day of the week. Acts 2 states that the apostles met together on the day of the Pentecost.
The day of Pentecost was fifty days after the Passover Sabbath according to Leviticus 23:15, 16. So fifty days later would be forty-nine days (seven weeks) plus one day. Seven weeks from the Sabbath would be on a Saturday, so the fiftieth day would be on a Sunday or the first day of the week. Acts 2:41,42 we read the following, "Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued steadfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers."

There is also Acts 20:7 7 On the first day of the week we came together to break bread. Paul spoke to the people and, because he intended to leave the next day, kept on talking until midnight.

Revelation 1:10
10 On the Lord’s Day I was in the Spirit, and I heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet,

from the evidence that is contained within the scriptures we may come to the conclusion that early Christians worshipped upon the first day of the week. They partook of the Lord's supper upon the first day of the week. They gave of their means upon the first day of the week. This day came to be known as the Lord's day.


Am I making sense here?
Yeah about the 'lords day' it was actually a day every sunday where the emperor/caesar/whatever called his subjects to worship him as lord. It has nothing to do with Yeshua, John was saying that while on the lords day while all the other people in the kingdom were worshipping the dude in charge he was 'in the Spirit'.

Oh and on the 'first day of the week' thing, the apostles NEVER replaced the sabbath with this love feast. The sabbath was for God and as Avinu pointed out they still went to the temple on the sabbath and observed it. However the first day (sunday) is when they would come together for fellowship and instruction. It was a day set apart for each other, not God, though it was focused on God. It was on this day they would 'break bread' and partake of the 'lords supper' with each other but they never said in the NT or in any history book that this love feast ever replaced the sabbath.
 
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There is also Acts 20:7 7 On the first day of the week we came together to break bread. Paul spoke to the people and, because he intended to leave the next day, kept on talking until midnight.

Revelation 1:10
10 On the Lord’s Day I was in the Spirit, and I heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet,

from the evidence that is contained within the scriptures we may come to the conclusion that early Christians worshipped upon the first day of the week. They partook of the Lord's supper upon the first day of the week. They gave of their means upon the first day of the week. This day came to be known as the Lord's day.


Am I making sense here?
The Bible starts the day at sunset
Genesis 1:5
(5) And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Leviticus 23:32
(32) It shall be unto you a sabbath of rest, and ye shall afflict your souls: in the ninth day of the month at even, from even unto even, shall ye celebrate your sabbath.
Acts 20:7-11
(7) And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.
(8) And there were many lights in the upper chamber, where they were gathered together.
(9) And there sat in a window a certain young man named Eutychus, being fallen into a deep sleep: and as Paul was long preaching, he sunk down with sleep, and fell down from the third loft, and was taken up dead.
(10) And Paul went down, and fell on him, and embracing him said, Trouble not yourselves; for his life is in him.
(11) When he therefore was come up again, and had broken bread, and eaten, and talked a long while, even till break of day, so he departed.


So that means that night on the 1st day of the week was Saturday night and they left early on Sunday morning they did not have a church service Sunday morning. They had worship on Sabbath it continued into Saturday night and they left first thing Sunday morning.

As for Revelation 1:10
Revelation 1:10
(10) I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,

Mark 2:28
(28) Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.