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zackabba

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1. What is the best commentary for Philippians?

2. Are James Boice's commentaries great?


3. How are the NIV Application commentaries?
 
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Scotth1960

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1. What is the best commentary for Philippians?


Dear zackabba, The best commentary for Philippians?

THE ORTHODOX NEW TESTAMENT: Volume 2, PRAXAPOSTOLOS: Acts, Epistles, and Revelation. Holy Apostles Convent, translators. Copyright 2000, Holy Apostles Convent, Buena Vista, CO.
The Epistle of Saint Paul to the Philippians. ONT, Volume 2, pages 295-301.
Endnotes for Philippians, pages 301-312. Commentary on Philippians from the Church Fathers and translation notes by Holy Apostles Convent. An excellent translation of St. Paul's epistle to the Philippians. ONT Orthodox New Testament, volume 2.
God bless you. In Erie PA USA Scott R. Harrington

 
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1. What is the best commentary for Philippians?


2Look out for those dogs [Judaizers, legalists], look out for those mischief-makers, look out for those who mutilate the flesh.
3For we [Christians] are the true circumcision, who worship God in spirit and by the Spirit of God and exult and glory and pride ourselves in Jesus Christ, and put no confidence or dependence [on what we are] in the flesh and on outward privileges and physical advantages and external appearances--



2. Are James Boice's commentaries great?


Don't know him.


3. How are the NIV Application commentaries?

They've never bothered me.






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zackabba

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Okay...you didn't give me much of an answer... (I'm not replying to the long string of dots)

All I got was that the NIV commentaries never bothered you...


But Grace and Love
 

Cleante

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The best commentary series out there is the Anchor Yale Bible Commentary. You may be able to find it at your public library. The books are a little expensive... Roughly 35-50 USD a book.

I haven't read any of his commentaries. I mainly use Anchor Yale because it provides so much information and it typically stays away from interpretation.
 
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Okay...you didn't give me much of an answer... (I'm not replying to the long string of dots)

All I got was that the NIV commentaries never bothered you...


But Grace and Love

No I didn't the dots were because the reply was messing up and said my answer was too short.
 
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Scotth1960

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The best commentary series out there is the Anchor Yale Bible Commentary. You

may be able to find it at your public library. The books are a little expensive... Roughly 35-50 USD a book.


I haven't read any of his commentaries. I mainly use Anchor Yale because it provides so much information

and it typically stays away from interpretation.

Dear Cleante,
Do you know, in Greece, in the Orthodox Church of Greece, works in the English language

that are used in the Greek/Russian, etc. Orthodox churches here in the USA?

Holy Apostles Convent, translators. Orthodox New Testament. 2 vols. Vol. 1,

Evangelistarion, The Holy Gospels. Vol. 2, Praxapostolis, Acts, Epistles, Revelation.

Copyright 2000, Holy Apostles Convent, Buena Vista, CO. This book is sold in our local

Russian Orthodox Church (Old Rite) bookstore.


Also, the following books are used by the Orthodox church here. It's a collection of

Eastern Orthodox Greek and Latin Church Fathers commentary on the whole Bible, edited

by a Methodist editor, and other Evangelicals who are interested in the Ancient Church

Fathers. Some of the work is original work by some non-Orthodox (or not specified as

being Orthodox Christian) translators of the Church Fathers. And from some of the Church

Fathers already translated into English, such as the ANF and NPNF series of Schaff, Grand

Rapids, MI: Eerdmans Publishers.


ANCIENT CHRISTIAN COMMENTARY ON THE SCRIPTURES. Old and New Testaments. several

volume, edited by Thomas C. Oden, general editor. Downers Grove, IL: InterVarsity Press.


I have seen the Anchor Bible commentaries, and have not found them very useful.


I don't think most or any of the commentators are Eastern Orthodox Christians. So take

them as you will. They don't necessarily disagree with Eastern Orthodox doctrine, but

they don't necessarily address that concern either.


But the ACCS series Ancient Christian Commentary on the Scriptures quotes many

Eastern and Western Greek and Latin speaking Church Fathers. It doesn't comment on

every last verse of the Bible, just those verses that the Old Church Fathers commentated

on the Bible.

God bless you.

One last thing, Mr. Cleante. Do you know of the Greek Orthodox writer Apostolos

Makrakis, and have you read any of his writings? Also, have you read the following two

books in the English language, or in the original Greek language which it was written in?

Saint Photios. (1987). The Mystagogy of the Holy Spirit. Joseph P. Farrell, translator.

Brookline, MA: Holy Cross Orthodox Press.

Saint Photios. (1983). On the Mystagogy of the Holy Spirit. Holy Transfiguration

Monastery, translators. Boston, MA: Studion Publishers.

These two books by Blessed Saint Photios the Great are some of the most blessed,

greatest teachings of Orthodox theology that I have yet read. He really explains why

the Orthodox Church rejects the Filioque and how the E.O. Church really faithfully follows

our LORD Jesus Christ in John 15:26. God bless you; and God bless all of us: all in Greece

and in America and in the whole world, from Russia to Japan and all over the world, from

Israel to Ireland, and wherever people call on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Amen.

In Erie PA July 9/22, 2011 AD Scott R. Harrington




 
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CB

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1. What is the best commentary for Philippians?

2. Are James Boice's commentaries great?

3. How are the NIV Application commentaries?
NICNT by Gordon Fee is a great commentary, what is the purpose that you want it, personal study?
Some more would be:

Tyndale series by Ralph Martin

Word Biblical Commentary Series by Gerald Hawthorne is another good one, but might be more technical than what your looking for

Like any series, its hit and miss depending on the author, but i think application series is a pretty good set...

Hope that helps!
 
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zackabba

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The best commentary series out there is the Anchor Yale Bible Commentary. You may be able to find it at your public library. The books are a little expensive... Roughly 35-50 USD a book.

I haven't read any of his commentaries. I mainly use Anchor Yale because it provides so much information and it typically stays away from interpretation.
I haven't read that series, but I know my dad had the whole series when he was a pastor back in the 60's-80's (he got a free commentary monthly I think).

My brother Daniel has the whole set now...I'll have to see if he'd be willing to lend it sometime (he lives a bit aways)


Thank you for the answer, and

Grace and Love
 
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zackabba

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Dear Cleante,
Do you know, in Greece, in the Orthodox Church of Greece, works in the English language

that are used in the Greek/Russian, etc. Orthodox churches here in the USA?

Holy Apostles Convent, translators. Orthodox New Testament. 2 vols. Vol. 1,

Evangelistarion, The Holy Gospels. Vol. 2, Praxapostolis, Acts, Epistles, Revelation.

Copyright 2000, Holy Apostles Convent, Buena Vista, CO. This book is sold in our local

Russian Orthodox Church (Old Rite) bookstore.


Also, the following books are used by the Orthodox church here. It's a collection of

Eastern Orthodox Greek and Latin Church Fathers commentary on the whole Bible, edited

by a Methodist editor, and other Evangelicals who are interested in the Ancient Church

Fathers. Some of the work is original work by some non-Orthodox (or not specified as

being Orthodox Christian) translators of the Church Fathers. And from some of the Church

Fathers already translated into English, such as the ANF and NPNF series of Schaff, Grand

Rapids, MI: Eerdmans Publishers.


ANCIENT CHRISTIAN COMMENTARY ON THE SCRIPTURES. Old and New Testaments. several

volume, edited by Thomas C. Oden, general editor. Downers Grove, IL: InterVarsity Press.


I have seen the Anchor Bible commentaries, and have not found them very useful.


I don't think most or any of the commentators are Eastern Orthodox Christians. So take

them as you will. They don't necessarily disagree with Eastern Orthodox doctrine, but

they don't necessarily address that concern either.


But the ACCS series Ancient Christian Commentary on the Scriptures quotes many

Eastern and Western Greek and Latin speaking Church Fathers. It doesn't comment on

every last verse of the Bible, just those verses that the Old Church Fathers commentated

on the Bible.

God bless you.

One last thing, Mr. Cleante. Do you know of the Greek Orthodox writer Apostolos

Makrakis, and have you read any of his writings? Also, have you read the following two

books in the English language, or in the original Greek language which it was written in?

Saint Photios. (1987). The Mystagogy of the Holy Spirit. Joseph P. Farrell, translator.

Brookline, MA: Holy Cross Orthodox Press.

Saint Photios. (1983). On the Mystagogy of the Holy Spirit. Holy Transfiguration

Monastery, translators. Boston, MA: Studion Publishers.

These two books by Blessed Saint Photios the Great are some of the most blessed,

greatest teachings of Orthodox theology that I have yet read. He really explains why

the Orthodox Church rejects the Filioque and how the E.O. Church really faithfully follows

our LORD Jesus Christ in John 15:26. God bless you; and God bless all of us: all in Greece

and in America and in the whole world, from Russia to Japan and all over the world, from

Israel to Ireland, and wherever people call on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Amen.

In Erie PA July 9/22, 2011 AD Scott R. Harrington





My brother, I'm not in the Eastern Orthodox faith, and do not agree with all of its doctrines...so I don't believe many commentaries written by those in that faith will be very much use to me (except where we agree, which would be on Christ for example).


Maybe I'll look into them just for a different perspective, but I don't think I'd use them as my main commentaries.


Thank you for the suggestions though.

Grace and Love
 
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zackabba

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No I didn't the dots were because the reply was messing up and said my answer was too short.
Hey,

Sorry about my last comment. I think I was being a bit too harsh with that. You were just telling your views, and I apologize for my misunderstanding.

I was looking for specific commentaries if you have any particular suggestions, but if not that's fine too.

Grace and Love
 
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zackabba

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NICNT by Gordon Fee is a great commentary, what is the purpose that you want it, personal study?
Some more would be:

Tyndale series by Ralph Martin

Word Biblical Commentary Series by Gerald Hawthorne is another good one, but might be more technical than what your looking for

Like any series, its hit and miss depending on the author, but i think application series is a pretty good set...

Hope that helps!
I just got one by Silva (in the Baker commentary series), which I really like (so far).

I've seen Fee's commentary frequently listen in the top 3 (at least) commentaries in those kind of lists (it seems to be commended by D.A. Carson as well), so I'll definitely look into that sometime...when I have the money XD

I've heard the WBC to be very good as well.


I'm definitely no Greek student, and I only know a few Greek words (and I mean a few), but commentaries like the Baker commentary series I like because you don't necessarily have to know Greek to read it well. I've heard the same for Fee as well.



I'm looking for more exegetical commentaries I guess, not for application commentaries.

I tried to humble myself (knowing that I know virtually nothing about Greek except some words) to look at the NIV Application commentaries (in a Lifeway store)...and it just didn't do a lot for me. I know it does for others, but I guess I'm just looking for a different kind of commentary.

Thank you for the suggestions!

Grace and Love
 
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Hey,

Sorry about my last comment. I think I was being a bit too harsh with that. You were just telling your views, and I apologize for my misunderstanding.

I was looking for specific commentaries if you have any particular suggestions, but if not that's fine too.

Grace and Love

That's OK. Hope you get a lot of replies.
 
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SantoSubito

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I'll have to second the Anchor Bible, my public library has the complete set and they are simply great. But as a Catholic I am obligated to recommend the Haydock Bible.

As for Catholic and Orthodox commentaries. The only places you'll find real contention is passages pertaining to six out of the seven Sacraments, and in Catholic commentaries the Papacy, also probably in the ones on church governance as well.
 
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Crazy4GODword

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Well what about life applications? Or preach the word commentaries?
 
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zackabba

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Well what about life applications? Or preach the word commentaries?
Thank you for the suggestion.

I believe I have a life application study Bible around, but I don't use it very often. I did before, but I don't as often now.

I'm more into commentaries that try to explain the text in depth. Even though Life Applications has helped me a little bit in the past, more often than not I found myself using another reference (like the ESV Study Bible).

Here's my gripe with it: it seems that if you have and understanding of the text, and pray to God (this comes first) before and after you read the text, then it seems like He'll bear fruit within you then without need for that sort of commentary.


But that's only my fallible, imperfect gripe with it, and I know it has helped and continues to help many Christians today.


Grace and Love
 
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zackabba

Guest
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I'll have to second the Anchor Bible, my public library has the complete set and they are simply great. But as a Catholic I am obligated to recommend the Haydock Bible.

As for Catholic and Orthodox commentaries. The only places you'll find real contention is passages pertaining to six out of the seven Sacraments, and in Catholic commentaries the Papacy, also probably in the ones on church governance as well.
Again, as I said to Scott I may look into it someday, but it doesn't fit my faith very well (not that Eastern Orthodox or Catholic isn't Christian, although I do have more than a few issues with some practices).

You could probably call me...a "Reformed" Christian. My beliefs are a bit different than my parents, but that came through honest searching and prayer to God...but that's another story. :)


Thank you for the suggestion though.


Grace and Love
 
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1. What is the best commentary for Philippians?

2. Are James Boice's commentaries great?


3. How are the NIV Application commentaries?


This is a bit late for your summer reading activity, but fortunately you were a part of the
thread on ONLINE BIBLE STUDY where my "Comments on Commentaries" post is. I will
simply reference the link to the post for yourself and anyone interested. I wish we could
do more with this thread and people would contribute to both:

1. Personal (and group) Online Bible Studies and (from programs online)
2. Correspondence/Online Bible Certificates and Programs
At your age, I would consider seeking out either accredited or generally (doctrinally)
approved programs that might lead you to Certification or serve as a foundation for
further study, informal, semi-formal or formal. This thread was a part of an attempt to
research, list and discuss such studies.

ONLINE BIBLE STUDY

Thread Link -->> http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/28388-online-bible-study.html

Comment on Commentaries (Philippians and General)
Post Link -->>
Commentaries
 
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1. What is the best commentary for Philippians?

2. Are James Boice's commentaries great?


3. How are the NIV Application commentaries?

Somewhat off topic, but somewhat related:


Any in-depth study should be done with a more holistic knowledge of the Bible and it's
Doctrines and Themes. I would encourage you to spend this sort of time on developing a
strong foundation before diving into any in-depth study. A commentary review can take
months, and might leave you with mis-impressions of the meaning or it's place in
scripture as a whole.


I offer and propose the following alternative for your time and efforts because of your;
interest level; apparent scholarship [interest]; and your age:


Moody Bible Institute - Distance Learning

Certificate of Biblical Studies


Overview

A total of 30 semester hours are required for the Certificate of Biblical Studies, which are
divided into two areas of study: Biblical and Theological Studies and Ministry Studies. This
program allows students to quickly and easily obtain practical knowledge of Bible survey,
doctrine, methods of Bible study, evangelism and discipleship.


The Certificate of Biblical Studies is ideal for anyone who wants to expand their knowledge
of the Bible and effectiveness in ministry, but is currently unable to pursue a full academic
degree. After completing the Certificate of Biblical Studies, students may apply the
credits earned in the program towards an Associate or Bachelor of Biblical Studies degree
at any time.


Requirements

Classes are 8-weeks long, with two classes per session, two sessions fall, two sessions spring and one summer session ...

Bible and Theology Courses
20

BI 1111 Old Testament Survey, (4 credit-hours)

BI 1112 New Testament Survey, (4 credit-hours)
BI 2230 Bible Introduction, (3 credit-hours)
BI 2280 Hermeneutics/Bible Study Methods, (3 credit-hours) NOTE 1
TH 1110 The Church and Its Doctrines, (3 credit-hours) NOTE 2
BI and TH Open Electives, (3 credit-hours)

Ministry Studies
10

MS 1100 Spiritual Life and Community, (3 credit-hours)

EV 3302 Life-on-Life Discipleship, (3 credit-hours)
MS 1102 Teaching and Studying the Bible*, (3 credit-hours)

Total Credits
30

NOTE 1:
Hermeneutics should have at least a week of intensive overview of Greek and Hebrew
study tools, a critique of Strongs and Thayers for example, the use of the interlinear bible,
Bible Dictionaries and other reference tools

NOTE 2:
The Church and it's Doctrines should be a summary approach to "Systematic Theology"
or you should substitute either seminars or classes in Both, Language Study and
Systematic Theology.

I am not suggesting this particular school or program, but the outline of study is a good
introduction, can be done online, has a flexible schedule, a decent school reputation and
other such characteristics one should look at as criteria.

There are other approaches as well, such as a Deacon or Sunday School Teacher or
Missions field Prep Program that might have the same general topics, a few specialty
topics, and a few elective topics that are covered in a shorter and broader way,
but still provide an introduction, a foundation and a degree of holism.

Links:

* Overview

I will reserve such future discussion for, and encourage you to participate in, the Thread on this Forum on:

ONLINE BIBLE STUDY
Link -->> http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/28388-online-bible-study.html