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furrywoogie

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ok well...what makes you guys believe in god and jesus?......i have never had any faith my entire life ive tried to go to church and tried to speak to priest and students of the bible...and just the typical lot you would want to go to and im 22 now and its just not there for me i cant find that beleif some of you have that you would probably jump in front of a bus for but yea what makes you lot believe? did you see something i didnt? is there a reason or proof? thanks for any replies
 
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ok well...what makes you guys believe in god and jesus?......i have never had any faith my entire life ive tried to go to church and tried to speak to priest and students of the bible...and just the typical lot you would want to go to and im 22 now and its just not there for me i cant find that beleif some of you have that you would probably jump in front of a bus for but yea what makes you lot believe? did you see something i didnt? is there a reason or proof? thanks for any replies
I grew up in a Christian home. When I was thirteen I told God that if He was real I would follow Him. He proved to me supernaturally that He was real. I believe because of the goodness of God and His grace. I'm now 23 and still God is faithful.
 
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MaggieMye

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Why turn to man and his teachings when it is God that you seek? Simply ASK JESUS ...tell Him that you want to know Him intimately. Ask Him to be your Lord and Savior and show you His way. Ask Him to make Himself real to you so that you will know that you know who He is and who YOU are in Him.

It really is THAT simple. The Bible will become alive to you when you ask Him to come into your heart and live there!
He loves YOU with a never-ending love and truly wants to help you understand that and know it in your heart.
Maggie
 

Kakashi

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If you want an honest reply of WHY, then I'd have to say that, from personal experience that it simply works. Really everything the bible provides shows you how to live a better life mentally, physically and most importantly spiritually. The fact that the bible shows such a detailed and in depth knowledge of how the human heart really is tells me that it really was inspired by God and that the way that Jesus Christ lived really did show that he is the Son of God. I've been striving to live it out because I KNOW that it leads to a better life and more importantly a relationship with my maker which gives me peace.

But, to put it simply, the proof is in the pudding of living it to show that it works. Hope that helps!

EDIT: oh and as someone already said, the rest of the world really has nothing to offer. Nothing brings true peace. The book of Eccleciastes is proof that the world has nothing that offers pure joy like that is described in the new testament.
 
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ok well...what makes you guys believe in god and jesus?......i have never had any faith my entire life ive tried to go to church and tried to speak to priest and students of the bible...and just the typical lot you would want to go to and im 22 now and its just not there for me i cant find that beleif some of you have that you would probably jump in front of a bus for but yea what makes you lot believe? did you see something i didnt? is there a reason or proof? thanks for any replies
every man has faith, it is just you are rejecting yours :

Ro 12:3For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the MEASURE of faith.
But Jesus saidJoh 12:30Jesus answered and said, This voice came not because of me, but for your sakes.Joh 12:31Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.Joh 12:32And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.Joh 12:33This he said, signifying what death he should die.
 
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furrywoogie don't be discouraged. Faith is like a seed, it takes time to grow. The fact you have tried to go to church , talk to people and things proves that you do have faith, maybe you just don't realise it. You obviously have had seeds planted. Jesus spoke of persistance until we bear fruit in Luke 8:15
Luk 8:15 The seeds that fell in good soil stand for those who hear the message and retain it in a good and obedient heart, and they persist until they bear fruit.

Not everyone reaches the point of faith where they will jump in front of a bus straight away, it is the experience of most people that it is the result of years of perserverance, effort and struggles even doubts. Minutes or hours a day praying to a God you may not even be 100% sure is there. But eventually breakthrough happens, something clicks. That's what faith is, you believe in something even though there is no evidence for it (yet). Surely , evidence will come eventually, as you recognise God moving in your own life and the of others. When you realise that every breath you take , the fact you are alive this very moment is only because of God wills it to be so. I think MaggyMye's suggestion is the only way forward in my experience.
 
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I will tell you the main reason why I believe.Growing up I was an atheist,the thought of someone powerful enough to create this place we live in was nonsense to me.I grew up fatherless,my mom was in and out of psychiatric institutes.I asked myself why God would want this for three children.My answer was NO GOD.
In Dec 07 I was injured in a accident and out of work.Nov 08 I was ready to return to work,my Christian wife prayed to God that If He did not want me to return to this employer and had other plans for me to show her a sign.We were walking around a mall and as I entered a bathroom I slipped on a wet floor and re-injured my back and also had a concussion.My family said this was a sign from above,so I asked God to show me another sign,one I would remember.While walking outside one night I tripped on something and fell again,almost hitting my head on our porch.When I looked to see what I tripped on there was nothing.
While everyones beginning experience is different,this was enough to convince me.I would ask you to begin a intimate relationship with God,when you pray believe in what you are saying.And have faith that He is listening. God bless
 
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furrywoogie

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dont you ever wonder if its just convincing yourself with a placebo sort of effect? i mean i would love the romantic idea of some..spiritual being just makes decisions and taking care but ...not to whine but i've had some pretty dark times due to like one of the replies to my post a mental mom and well my dad was a abusive alcoholic and ive attempted suicide during some of my darkest moments about 4 times and ..i never saw a holy..anything i never felt a warm love from no where i never was given a hint of divinity and ive always lead a good honest life and cared for others more than i did myself but it just doesnt work out i mean its kind of crazy to say if you believe hard enough it will happen..i could say the same about flying rabbits with puppy faces ...i could believe it if i did..and then wouldnt i be mental? ..but i want to beleive for the sake of caring for life and progressing ..sometimes i feel we are all parasites with ideas of ourselves thinking we're so great when we are just masses of flesh floating down the stream of life yea we can think and have emotions and be passionate but i mean it feels like we just shape all these beliefs for structure and for our egos gimme tips on how i can believe in god =) something relative and not just blindly believing is there something that can ''show me the light''?
 
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furrywoogie

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sorry for double post but the **** time limit on editing expired

p.s.: oh yea i cant ever really believe in the bible i mean it had some stories with morals but god and dragons and people who lived for thousands of years and young earth theory ..no way i think the bible was written by men..because it was...and well that just adds to it feeling like some sordid delusion men came up with to retain order and i dont feel im rejecting faith i feel im questioning it like you would anything you would want to consume you dont just suck it down you read the label and see if it checks out
 
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gimme tips on how i can believe in god =) something relative and not just blindly believing is there something that can ''show me the light''?

Take your requests to God in prayer. Use the time you would spend in CC asking anonymous posters to show you the light to ask God to show you the light.

He will be much more convincing. :)

It is personal between you and God.
 
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furrywoogie

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oi its kinda hard since when i try to pray i feel like im just talking to myself lol its like ''hello...god?...jesus?...*crickets*...um '' but yea i never get signs or feelings or ...uh...anything i feel like im about to give up and just live a aetheist life
 
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Hmm…I can suggest something I do that helps me get closer to God.

I thank Him for everyone and everything in my life. I keep a notebook and add to it regularly. I can’t help but be thankful and love Him for what He’s given me and allowed me to give to others. For example, I have my vision and my hearing. I have a healthy body that functions the way I need it to, and a healthy mind. There are dozens of diseases I don’t have, for which I am extremely grateful.

This is just the beginning. There’s my family, my friends, my peace of mind and many, many more blessings. I know how very fortunate I am, and it’s all from God, because He loves me. Being appreciative helps me to speak to Him from my heart, and I ask Him to speak to mine.

It may feel awkward at first, but give it time and have patience. Ask God to open your heart and mind. You seem to honestly be seeking Him…He’s there for you. :)
 
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sorry for double post but the **** time limit on editing expired

p.s.: oh yea i cant ever really believe in the bible i mean it had some stories with morals but god and dragons and people who lived for thousands of years and young earth theory ..no way i think the bible was written by men..because it was...and well that just adds to it feeling like some sordid delusion men came up with to retain order and i dont feel im rejecting faith i feel im questioning it like you would anything you would want to consume you dont just suck it down you read the label and see if it checks out
Dinosaurs lived with mankind. The behemoth is described in Job 40 as one having a tail like a cedar which is a tree. No elephant nor hippo has a tail like a tree. There are Peruvian potteries depicting dinosaurs... and many other evidence of dinosaurs being seen living by man and with man as fossilized footprints of a man and a dinosaur has been documented as coming across each other in Texas. Debunkers try very hard and may seem credible, but I saw the two paths crossed and they were over and on top of each other while debunkers ignore the obvious to cause doubts.

And as much as science would like to present their guesswork as facts... even the use of the tools to determine age has been proven unreliable and yet they hold to them as if they are also facts, one should never try to fit science into the Bible, but use the Bible to discern the science. Science in regards to the evolution theory and the age of the earth and the universe cannot say that God is deceptive when creation design requires maturity to be set up and operating to go.. Adam was a man.. not a baby... he needs to be a man to take care of the baby as all creation does. Trees bearing fruit and plants bearing seeds also requires maturity to start seeding new growth as the mature animals and man are living upon the earth eating the maurure fruits & herbs thereof. When God wanted the lights from the heavens and the moon to govern the earth by night, that means as He spoke, the power of God makes it so as the source of the lights in the heavens are seen as well as the gap between the earth and that source of light is filled with that light to be seen that night as God spoke... and so it is so.


If you want to get all scientific about God's creation, then study Pleochroic halos as Polonium 218 is a daughter element of uranium and yet polonium halos have been found in mica and flourite without any evidence of parents, meaning that it was primordial, present in the original granite from the very beginning. Since halos cannot exist because of their extremely short half lives as Plonium 318 has a half life of three minutes, then creation was sudden and complete for the poloniumn would have decayed into other elements long ago if it took millions of years for rock formations to be cooled. Thus due to the evidence of the instantaneous crystallization of the host basement rocks of the earth concurring with formation of polonium radiohalos, this speaks eloquently of instantaneous creation. Melink, Jim, The Case of Polonium Radiohalos, Student For Origins Research, Santa Barbara, California, Vol. 5, No. 1, 1982, pp-4-5.

So while science are still investigating, know that God's word is right, and you need not lean on scientific assumptions, waiting for science to get it right when God's words are true.

As time goes on, you will find that science is being run and presented by fallible men, but the Word of God is true.
 

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Dinosaurs lived with mankind. The behemoth is described in Job 40 as one having a tail like a cedar which is a tree. No elephant nor hippo has a tail like a tree. There are Peruvian potteries depicting dinosaurs... and many other evidence of dinosaurs being seen living by man and with man as fossilized footprints of a man and a dinosaur has been documented as coming across each other in Texas. Debunkers try very hard and may seem credible, but I saw the two paths crossed and they were over and on top of each other while debunkers ignore the obvious to cause doubts.

And as much as science would like to present their guesswork as facts... even the use of the tools to determine age has been proven unreliable and yet they hold to them as if they are also facts, one should never try to fit science into the Bible, but use the Bible to discern the science. Science in regards to the evolution theory and the age of the earth and the universe cannot say that God is deceptive when creation design requires maturity to be set up and operating to go.. Adam was a man.. not a baby... he needs to be a man to take care of the baby as all creation does. Trees bearing fruit and plants bearing seeds also requires maturity to start seeding new growth as the mature animals and man are living upon the earth eating the maurure fruits & herbs thereof. When God wanted the lights from the heavens and the moon to govern the earth by night, that means as He spoke, the power of God makes it so as the source of the lights in the heavens are seen as well as the gap between the earth and that source of light is filled with that light to be seen that night as God spoke... and so it is so.


If you want to get all scientific about God's creation, then study Pleochroic halos as Polonium 218 is a daughter element of uranium and yet polonium halos have been found in mica and flourite without any evidence of parents, meaning that it was primordial, present in the original granite from the very beginning. Since halos cannot exist because of their extremely short half lives as Plonium 318 has a half life of three minutes, then creation was sudden and complete for the poloniumn would have decayed into other elements long ago if it took millions of years for rock formations to be cooled. Thus due to the evidence of the instantaneous crystallization of the host basement rocks of the earth concurring with formation of polonium radiohalos, this speaks eloquently of instantaneous creation. Melink, Jim, The Case of Polonium Radiohalos, Student For Origins Research, Santa Barbara, California, Vol. 5, No. 1, 1982, pp-4-5.

So while science are still investigating, know that God's word is right, and you need not lean on scientific assumptions, waiting for science to get it right when God's words are true.

As time goes on, you will find that science is being run and presented by fallible men, but the Word of God is true.
Aye, good post! Christianity is not anti-science as many would think, but I think science is a study of God's creation! Every program needs a programmer and our planet has been very well programed. Scientists call it " mother nature" but they explain it with random chance. if you would say that a program on a computer was formed by random chance, you;d get laughed at. i don't see why it would be laughable to say that our universe was also created.
 
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