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While the Christians bicker, the Lord is saving souls.

I see a VERY grave sadness. Many Christians are not concerned with souls. Many of them are more concerned about how they can be satisfied in this life. The complain and bicker of doctrines and traditions that can do nothing to save a soul. Meanwhile, Jesus is saving souls. Some Christians are doing the Lord's work, in love and in that testimony put in them of the Lord to give glory to his name.

What is it?

Two friends. They knew each other for years. One a Christian, one a sinner. They did things together, they ate together, they laughed together. But the Christian mentioned church, and mentioned church duties, but never mentioned Jesus.

What is it, if his friend ended up in hell. What would he wonder? ''Why did my friend not tell me of this place? Why did he not tell me about the reality of this place? All that time we spent together, and he never even mentioned Jesus?'' NO HOPE! NO HOPE!!!

HYPOCRITES!! VAIN JANGLERS!! LOVELESS!!

Did Jesus come to preach traditions and doctrines? Or did he come to seek and save the lost. I say, SEEK!!! AND SAVE!!!

Not one of you by your bickering can bring one soul to Jesus, neither do you desire it. You desire to have people in subjection to rules, and not to Jesus Christ, who will certainly save them. These are those who prevent people to go in, and do not go in themselves. Fearful, loveless Christians.

There is but one doctrine that is the doctrine of life, and any rebellion against that doctrine is rebellion against God!! Jesus Christ came into this world to testify of that doctrine. And that doctrine is OF LOVE!! It is not a doctrine of man. It is the DOCTRINE OF LOVE!! Who knows love? Do you know your bible, but you don't know God? Do you know your pastors and your friends, and your sin, but you don't know Jesus?

Tell me. Who would die for you? Tell me, who would die for you even when you hated them and spat on them? Your doctrine did not die for you. But Jesus died. Your bible didn't shed blood for you, but Jesus did. If you want life, GO TO JESUS CHRIST!! HE WILL GIVE YOU LIFE! HE WILL BE A WELL OF WATER SPRINGING UP IN YOU! HE WILL BE BREAD FOR THE HUNGER OF YOUR SOUL!!

Call on Jesus Christ, and he will save you from the judgement to come. He is the ONLY one who can.

May Jesus bless you.
 
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AnandaHya

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:) thanks for the wake up calling :)

 
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Santana

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Thanks Ramon, I was thinking the same thing not too long ago. It doesn't matter if you like the religion or the pastor, preacher, or priest. The Gospel must be shared and Christ's love must be known to all. I pray that we all learn to have that mindset and not glorify ourselves but always glorify Jesus.
 

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hi Ramon
how many people who were totally lost sinners headed for hell have you actually gone to, prayed for, planted, watered, pleaded with until they listened?
and then how patient and persistent were you in persuading them from the scriptures that they are lost but that Christ died for them?
and did they believe? did you watch it happen?
and then did you continue to minister and teach through the Gospels and epistles, answering the phone at all hours, driving long distances when needed?
how many emails have you taken time to research answers for and how many prayers, RIGHT PRAYERS have you prayed for that one?
did you help them find a church they would be safe in?

how could you do ANY of this without first being rooted and grounded yourself? how long did it take? are you finished? have you arrived?

i know what my answer is.
all this into the air battering of people on forums (who are "bickering" about theology, etc) because we've been a christian for a year or so and we think we understand it all is amusing (and does try the patience).

carry on though.
 
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hi Ramon
how many people who were totally lost sinners headed for hell have you actually gone to, prayed for, planted, watered, pleaded with until they listened?
and then how patient and persistent were you in persuading them from the scriptures that they are lost but that Christ died for them?
and did they believe? did you watch it happen?
and then did you continue to minister and teach through the Gospels and epistles, answering the phone at all hours, driving long distances when needed?
how many emails have you taken time to research answers for and how many prayers, RIGHT PRAYERS have you prayed for that one?
did you help them find a church they would be safe in?

how could you do ANY of this without first being rooted and grounded yourself? how long did it take? are you finished? have you arrived?

i know what my answer is.
all this into the air battering of people on forums (who are "bickering" about theology, etc) because we've been a christian for a year or so and we think we understand it all is amusing (and does try the patience).

carry on though.

Why do come against people zone? He gave a very good message which I am sure the Lord was putting on his heart. The Lord has been putting this message on a lot of hearts. I pray you receive in Jesus. Dear God!
 
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....................................... Let's do it...................................
 
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AnandaHya

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hi Ramon
how many people who were totally lost sinners headed for hell have you actually gone to, prayed for, planted, watered, pleaded with until they listened?
and then how patient and persistent were you in persuading them from the scriptures that they are lost but that Christ died for them?
and did they believe? did you watch it happen?
and then did you continue to minister and teach through the Gospels and epistles, answering the phone at all hours, driving long distances when needed?
how many emails have you taken time to research answers for and how many prayers, RIGHT PRAYERS have you prayed for that one?
did you help them find a church they would be safe in?

how could you do ANY of this without first being rooted and grounded yourself? how long did it take? are you finished? have you arrived?

i know what my answer is.
all this into the air battering of people on forums (who are "bickering" about theology, etc) because we've been a christian for a year or so and we think we understand it all is amusing (and does try the patience).

carry on though.
They are all very valid questions that need to be asked Zone, but you see Ramon does not think he knows it all and he is not posting to people on the forums who are "bickering" but those who speak and do not have the Holy Spirit in their hearts at all.

perhaps if you reread his words with that in mind you will see it under a different light.

some do not engage in theological discussions not because they do not think it is important but they do not feel rooted and mature enough to stand the storm.

they have been humbled and realize the need to sink their roots deep in the Word of God and keep their eyes focused on Jesus instead of the waves that try and knock them off course.

have patience Zone, everyone will mature in God's time ;) with His help.

it is nice to watch them grow :) and learn to grow in peace, joy and love beside them. :)
 

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They are all very valid questions that need to be asked Zone, but you see Ramon does not think he knows it all and he is not posting to people on the forums who are "bickering" but those who speak and do not have the Holy Spirit in their hearts at all.

perhaps if you reread his words with that in mind you will see it under a different light.

some do not engage in theological discussions not because they do not think it is important but they do not feel rooted and mature enough to stand the storm.

they have been humbled and realize the need to sink their roots deep in the Word of God and keep their eyes focused on Jesus instead of the waves that try and knock them off course.

have patience Zone, everyone will mature in God's time ;) with His help.

it is nice to watch them grow :) and learn to grow in peace, joy and love beside them. :)
thank you ana.
that's fine to cut our teeth on preaching The Law and salvation to the lost inside the church....gotta do it somewhere i reckon.
i just wish we knew the diff!
LOL!
i read every post ana...even the old ones.
[chris has quite a discussion on cessationism going: Mark Driscoll ignites firestorm LOLOLOL!]
 
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AnandaHya

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i'll have to check it out lol I'll download it and fit it in between Spurgeon and Dewaay's sermons ;)
 
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Thank you for these words! I have studied theology and the Bible for over 5 years at academic levels. I believe there is importance in figuring out God's truth and being accountable for what we believe. There are false gospels and Christians should be led by the Spirit in learning God's word. However, I have also seen damaging debates, faith lost, bitterness and anger accumulated due to bickering. We fight with each other, while we make no efforts to share the Gospel and the love of Christ with those near and far. This is our priority. Our great commission. People need to hear about the hope they have in Jesus. They must know about His love for them because that is exactly what has changed my life.
 
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While the Christians bicker, the Lord is saving souls.

I see a VERY grave sadness. Many Christians are not concerned with souls. Many of them are more concerned about how they can be satisfied in this life. The complain and bicker of doctrines and traditions that can do nothing to save a soul. Meanwhile, Jesus is saving souls. Some Christians are doing the Lord's work, in love and in that testimony put in them of the Lord to give glory to his name.

What is it?

Two friends. They knew each other for years. One a Christian, one a sinner. They did things together, they ate together, they laughed together. But the Christian mentioned church, and mentioned church duties, but never mentioned Jesus.

What is it, if his friend ended up in hell. What would he wonder? ''Why did my friend not tell me of this place? Why did he not tell me about the reality of this place? All that time we spent together, and he never even mentioned Jesus?'' NO HOPE! NO HOPE!!!

Up to this point it's good and you have established a premise to minister grace, but then you all of a sudden you go here and say ...

HYPOCRITES!! VAIN JANGLERS!! LOVELESS!!

With that good premise you could introduce what you want to communicate with grace and build believers up in the truth instead of nailing them to the wall.

Did Jesus come to preach traditions and doctrines? Or did he come to seek and save the lost. I say, SEEK!!! AND SAVE!!!

Not one of you by your bickering can bring one soul to Jesus, neither do you desire it. You desire to have people in subjection to rules, and not to Jesus Christ, who will certainly save them. These are those who prevent people to go in, and do not go in themselves. Fearful, loveless Christians.

There is but one doctrine that is the doctrine of life, and any rebellion against that doctrine is rebellion against God!! Jesus Christ came into this world to testify of that doctrine. And that doctrine is OF LOVE!! It is not a doctrine of man. It is the DOCTRINE OF LOVE!! Who knows love? Do you know your bible, but you don't know God? Do you know your pastors and your friends, and your sin, but you don't know Jesus?

Most believers who have been saved by the grace of God know the Lord in a personal way but live in a form of humanism in their worship because they have never been taught grace and truth. If you are the pastor-teacher of a local assembly and you discern the flock God has given you and need to deal with things, hopefully, you have invested much love, grace and spent much time in prayer and intercession for them before you exhort them with the truth.

Tell me. Who would die for you? Tell me, who would die for you even when you hated them and spat on them? Your doctrine did not die for you. But Jesus died. Your bible didn't shed blood for you, but Jesus did. If you want life, GO TO JESUS CHRIST!! HE WILL GIVE YOU LIFE! HE WILL BE A WELL OF WATER SPRINGING UP IN YOU! HE WILL BE BREAD FOR THE HUNGER OF YOUR SOUL!!

When someone has believed and made a profession for Christ, you and I have to believe the best and invest in their life and see what God does in their heart. If you rebuke them, most will turn away and you have not won that soul to Christ through grace and truth. Love does not compromise but it is discreet and very creative in it's approach. Love creates a capacity within the heart through grace to receive truth. When Jesus came to seek and save the lost,he was a friend of sinners and he invested in their lives. He never condemned them for He came not to condemn or judge but rather to seek and save. The seeking part is the creative part that takes the plan of God to drawn men through lovingkindness.

Call on Jesus Christ, and he will save you from the judgement to come. He is the ONLY one who can.

The glorious gospl begins with he forgiveness and cleansing of sin through mercy and grace and that is why we preach Jesus Christ and Him crucified.

May Jesus bless you.
With all this bickering that you observe it is an opportunity to impart grace and allow God to take that grace and work it in the hearts and minds of those you impart it to. Love is patient, believes all things, hopes all things and endures all things. With God all things are possible, only believe.

Jer 32:27 Behold, I am the LORD, the God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me?

To win souls to Christ we must be wise.

Prov 11:30b ... he that winneth souls is wise
 

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With all this bickering that you observe it is an opportunity to impart grace and allow God to take that grace and work it in the hearts and minds of those you impart it to. Love is patient, believes all things, hopes all things and endures all things. With God all things are possible, only believe.

Jer 32:27 Behold, I am the LORD, the God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me?

To win souls to Christ we must be wise.

Prov 11:30b ... he that winneth souls is wise
Redster...
the preaching of the LAW (no one will really be saved without that) has to be followed IMMEDIATLEY by The Cross! and a steady diet of the gospel every meeting time for christians!
how soon we can be departing into some other gospel (there really is not another) that's LAW?

man, without the Gospel on the heels of the Law, that man is worse than he was before he ever heard anything.

the LAW lays us bear...like a lamb for slaughter. not one thing hid from Him with Whom we have to do.
so do we believe suddenly He is surprised by what he sees in that heart he is working in? and now hates us for our weakness and total inability to completely OBEY?

LAW LAW LAW.

and Christ died for NO REASON!
if i could only have one thing i desired: that Christians heard their own Gospel message every Sunday.
 
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superdave5221

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While the Christians bicker, the Lord is saving souls.

I see a VERY grave sadness. Many Christians are not concerned with souls. Many of them are more concerned about how they can be satisfied in this life. The complain and bicker of doctrines and traditions that can do nothing to save a soul. Meanwhile, Jesus is saving souls. Some Christians are doing the Lord's work, in love and in that testimony put in them of the Lord to give glory to his name.

What is it?

Two friends. They knew each other for years. One a Christian, one a sinner. They did things together, they ate together, they laughed together. But the Christian mentioned church, and mentioned church duties, but never mentioned Jesus.

What is it, if his friend ended up in hell. What would he wonder? ''Why did my friend not tell me of this place? Why did he not tell me about the reality of this place? All that time we spent together, and he never even mentioned Jesus?'' NO HOPE! NO HOPE!!!

HYPOCRITES!! VAIN JANGLERS!! LOVELESS!!

Did Jesus come to preach traditions and doctrines? Or did he come to seek and save the lost. I say, SEEK!!! AND SAVE!!!

Not one of you by your bickering can bring one soul to Jesus, neither do you desire it. You desire to have people in subjection to rules, and not to Jesus Christ, who will certainly save them. These are those who prevent people to go in, and do not go in themselves. Fearful, loveless Christians.

There is but one doctrine that is the doctrine of life, and any rebellion against that doctrine is rebellion against God!! Jesus Christ came into this world to testify of that doctrine. And that doctrine is OF LOVE!! It is not a doctrine of man. It is the DOCTRINE OF LOVE!! Who knows love? Do you know your bible, but you don't know God? Do you know your pastors and your friends, and your sin, but you don't know Jesus?

Tell me. Who would die for you? Tell me, who would die for you even when you hated them and spat on them? Your doctrine did not die for you. But Jesus died. Your bible didn't shed blood for you, but Jesus did. If you want life, GO TO JESUS CHRIST!! HE WILL GIVE YOU LIFE! HE WILL BE A WELL OF WATER SPRINGING UP IN YOU! HE WILL BE BREAD FOR THE HUNGER OF YOUR SOUL!!

Call on Jesus Christ, and he will save you from the judgement to come. He is the ONLY one who can.

May Jesus bless you.
Galatians 1: 6 I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel ; 7 which is really not another ; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed ! 9 As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed ! 10 For am I now seeking the favor of men, or of God ? Or am I striving to please men ? If I were still trying to please men, I would not be a bond-servant of Christ.

Wow! Why is Paul so mean? Shouldn't he just let people experience Christ for themselves? Why does he bicker? Why does he judge them? Is his arguing with them going to save a single soul? Why didn't he just tell them to call on Jesus Christ? Why does he strive to teach them correct doctrine? Is correct doctrine really that important?

You know, Paul was pretty successful in starting churches, and bringing people to Christ, through the power of Holy Spirit. And yet, perhaps he could have done better. Maybe he shouldn't have been so argumentative and more loving. Maybe he should have followed your advice.
 

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If Paul’s Epistle to the Galatians was Published in Christianity Today

Posted in: Featured Articles



LETTERS TO THE EDITOR

Dear Christianity Today:
In response to Paul D. Apostle’s article about the Galatian church in your January issue, I have to say how appalled I am by the unchristian tone of this hit piece. Why the negativity? Has he been to the Galatian church recently? I happen to know some of the people at that church, and they are the most loving, caring people I’ve ever met.
Phyllis Snodgrass; Ann Arbor, MI

Dear Editor:
How arrogant of Mr. Apostle to think he has the right to judge these people and label them accursed. Isn’t that God’s job? Regardless of this circumcision issue, these Galatians believe in Jesus just as much as he does, and it is very Pharisaical to condemn them just because they differ on such a secondary issue. Personally, I don’t want a sharp instrument anywhere near my zipper, but that doesn’t give me the right to judge how someone else follows Christ. Can’t we just focus on our common commitment to Christ and furthering His kingdom, instead of tearing down fellow believers over petty doctrinal matters?
Ed Bilgeway; Tonganoxie, KS

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Dear CT:
I’ve seen other dubious articles by Paul Apostle in the past, and frankly I’m surprised you felt that his recurrent criticisms of the Church deserved to be printed in your magazine. Mr. Apostle for many years now has had a penchant for thinking he has a right to “mark” certain Christian teachers who don’t agree with his biblical position. Certainly I commend him for desiring to stay faithful to God’s word, but I think he errs in being so dogmatic about his views to the point where he feels free to openly attack his brethren. His attitude makes it difficult to fully unify the Church, and gives credence to the opposition’s view that Christians are judgmental, arrogant people who never show God’s love.
Ken Groener; San Diego, CA

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To the Editors:
Paul Apostle says that he hopes the Galatian teachers will cut off their own privates? What kind of Christian attitude is that? Shame on him!
Martha Bobbitt; Boulder, CO

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Dear Christianity Today:
The fact that Paul Apostle brags about his public run-in with Peter Cephas, a well-respected leader and brother in Christ, exposes Mr. Apostle for the divisive figure that he has become in the Church today. His diatribe against the Galatian church is just more of the same misguided focus on an antiquated reliance on doctrine instead of love and tolerance. Just look how his hypercritical attitude has cast aspersions on homosexual believers and women elders! The real problem within the Church today is not the lack of doctrinal devotion, as Apostle seems to believe, but in our inability to be transformed by our individual journeys in the Spirit. Evidently, Apostle has failed to detach himself from his legalistic background as a Pharisee, and is unable to let go and experience the genuine love for Christ that is coming from the Galatians who strive to worship God in their own special way.
William Zenby; Richmond, VA

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Kind Editors:
I happen to be a member of First Christian Church of Galatia, and I take issue with Mr. Apostle’s article. How can he criticize a ministry that has been so blessed by God? Our church has baptized many new members and has made huge in-roads in the Jewish community with our pragmatic view on circumcision. Such a “seeker-sensitive” approach has given the Jews the respect they deserve for being God’s chosen people for thousands of years. In addition, every Gentile in our midst has felt honored to engage in the many edifying rituals of the Hebrew heritage, including circumcision, without losing their passion for Jesus. My advice to Mr. Apostle is to stick to spreading the gospel message of Christ’s unconditional love, and quit criticizing what God is clearly blessing in other churches.
Miriam “Betty” Ben-Hur; Galatia, Turkey

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EDITOR’S NOTE: Christianity Today apologizes for our rash decision in publishing Paul Apostle’s exposé of the Galatian church. Had we known the extent in which our readership and advertisers would withdraw their financial support, we never would have printed such unpopular biblical truth. We regret any damage we may have caused in propagating the doctrines of Christ.

http://sacredsandwich.com/archives/2781
 

zone

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Galatians 1: 6 I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel ; 7 which is really not another ; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed ! 9 As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed ! 10 For am I now seeking the favor of men, or of God ? Or am I striving to please men ? If I were still trying to please men, I would not be a bond-servant of Christ.

Wow! Why is Paul so mean? Shouldn't he just let people experience Christ for themselves? Why does he bicker? Why does he judge them? Is his arguing with them going to save a single soul? Why didn't he just tell them to call on Jesus Christ? Why does he strive to teach them correct doctrine? Is correct doctrine really that important?

You know, Paul was pretty successful in starting churches, and bringing people to Christ, through the power of Holy Spirit. And yet, perhaps he could have done better. Maybe he shouldn't have been so argumentative and more loving. Maybe he should have followed your advice.
greetings SuperDave!
whatcha studying these days brother?
did you finish your book?
i kinda bit off more than i could chew with the DA Carson one i picked:eek:
maybe when i eat more spinach.
zoneth.
 

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greetings SuperDave!
whatcha studying these days brother?
did you finish your book?
i kinda bit off more than i could chew with the DA Carson one i picked:eek:
maybe when i eat more spinach.
zoneth.
Whazzz up!! I just finished one of my systematic theology textbooks, and am close on the other one.

I just started an elective class on the book of John.

One of the textbooks is The Gospel According To John, by D.A. Carson. How about that? We are reading the same author. From what I have read so far, I like his writing. The other text is by an English guy, Beasley-Murray. They are both very good.

Yech! If I had to eat spinach, I would never learn, lol.

Which book by Carson are you reading?
 

zone

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Whazzz up!! I just finished one of my systematic theology textbooks, and am close on the other one.

I just started an elective class on the book of John.

One of the textbooks is The Gospel According To John, by D.A. Carson. How about that? We are reading the same author. From what I have read so far, I like his writing. The other text is by an English guy, Beasley-Murray. They are both very good.

Yech! If I had to eat spinach, I would never learn, lol.

Which book by Carson are you reading?
well, its actually a series Carson put together and edited.
(NSBT)

the author of this one is GK Beale:

The Temple and The Church's Mission.
A biblical theology of the dwelling place of God.

c. 500 pages: i'm starting with the bibliography, after beginning at the introduction and realizing i needed waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay background:D

hope i live long enough.

also found an old one that's curious:
The Parables of Jesus
Joachim Jeremias

problems with it, but i learn from those too....the thinking of the times are interesting.
your sister in Christ
zone

Sola Scriptura - Scripture Alone
Solus Christus - Christ Alone
Sola Gratia - Grace Alone
Sola Fide - Faith Alone
Soli Deo Gloria - The Glory of God Alone


Unwarranted confidence in human ability is a product of fallen human nature ... God's grace in Christ is not merely necessary but is the sole efficient cause of salvation. We confess that human beings are born spiritually dead and are incapable even of cooperating with regenerating grace. We reaffirm that in salvation we are rescued from God's wrath by his grace alone. It is the supernatural work of the Holy Spirit that brings us to Christ by releasing us from our bondage to sin and raising us from spiritual death to spiritual life. We deny that salvation is in any sense a human work. Human methods, techniques or strategies by themselves cannot accomplish this transformation. Faith is not produced by our unregenerated human nature. - Cambridge Declaration
 

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well, its actually a series Carson put together and edited.
(NSBT)

the author of this one is GK Beale:

The Temple and The Church's Mission.
A biblical theology of the dwelling place of God.

c. 500 pages: i'm starting with the bibliography, after beginning at the introduction and realizing i needed waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay background:D

hope i live long enough.

also found an old one that's curious:
The Parables of Jesus
Joachim Jeremias

problems with it, but i learn from those too....the thinking of the times are interesting.
your sister in Christ
zone

Sola Scriptura - Scripture Alone
Solus Christus - Christ Alone
Sola Gratia - Grace Alone
Sola Fide - Faith Alone
Soli Deo Gloria - The Glory of God Alone

Unwarranted confidence in human ability is a product of fallen human nature ... God's grace in Christ is not merely necessary but is the sole efficient cause of salvation. We confess that human beings are born spiritually dead and are incapable even of cooperating with regenerating grace. We reaffirm that in salvation we are rescued from God's wrath by his grace alone. It is the supernatural work of the Holy Spirit that brings us to Christ by releasing us from our bondage to sin and raising us from spiritual death to spiritual life. We deny that salvation is in any sense a human work. Human methods, techniques or strategies by themselves cannot accomplish this transformation. Faith is not produced by our unregenerated human nature. - Cambridge Declaration
COOL!! Keep studying and also applying what you learn, as I know that you already do.

2 Timothy 3: 13 But evil men and impostors will proceed from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. 14 You, however, continue in the things you have learned and become convinced of, knowing from whom you have learned them, 15 and that from childhood you have known the sacred writings which are able to give you the wisdom that leads to salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16 All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness ; 17 so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.

Love,

Superdave
 
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Thank you for these words! I have studied theology and the Bible for over 5 years at academic levels. I believe there is importance in figuring out God's truth and being accountable for what we believe. There are false gospels and Christians should be led by the Spirit in learning God's word. However, I have also seen damaging debates, faith lost, bitterness and anger accumulated due to bickering. We fight with each other, while we make no efforts to share the Gospel and the love of Christ with those near and far. This is our priority. Our great commission. People need to hear about the hope they have in Jesus. They must know about His love for them because that is exactly what has changed my life.
AMEN AMEN AMEN!!! May Jesus bless you with much grace. :)