Sex Before Marriage

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Jesus told us not to have sex before we marry:

[20] And he said, "What comes out of a man is what defiles a man.
[21] For from within, out of the heart of man, come evil thoughts, fornication, theft, murder, adultery,
[22] coveting, wickedness, deceit, licentiousness, envy, slander, pride, foolishness.
[23] All these evil things come from within, and they defile a man." Mark 7:20-23 RSV
But I say to you that every one who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. Matt 5:28 RSV

Do you witness to this teaching?
 
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those verse speak more then just premartial sex but of the sin of lust and how sin is committed and determined inside the heart before the action is ever carried out. it is linked to these teachings:

Proverbs 4:23
Above all else, guard your heart, for everything you do flows from it.

2 Corinthians 10:4-6
New International Version (NIV)
4 The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. 5 We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ. 6 And we will be ready to punish every act of disobedience, once your obedience is complete.
 
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It saddens me that our society (I can only speak from an American context) promotes any and all types of sexual expression from as early on as possible. They call this success, they deem this the normal way. I am always shocked when standing in the check out line and I read over the headlines on the most popular magazines. It is all sex, sex, sex, mixed in with materialism and new age "spirituality." More than ever, Christians need to be bold about Christ's teaching of sexual purity. We cannot be perfect, we will fail in some ways, but this world NEEDS the sound voice telling them that what they read in magazines or hear from their friends, doctors and parents are lies. Sex before marriage causes pain, trauma, and devastation. The consequences are sickness and death. I believe Christians must be a witness to this teaching. Most shameful is that these societal views have infiltrated the church and have become the primary teaching instead of God's way. I am sorry it may be hard, I am sorry to Christians who have already fallen into these traps... time to get out and be delivered from your bondage, because we are the ones here to represent Christ and teach and discipline generations on how to follow Him. This is our number one task, and we cannot fail when it comes to issues of sexual purity and sexuality.
 
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those verse speak more then just premartial sex but of the sin of lust and how sin is committed and determined inside the heart before the action is ever carried out. it is linked to these teachings:

Proverbs 4:23
Above all else, guard your heart, for everything you do flows from it.

2 Corinthians 10:4-6
New International Version (NIV)
4 The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. 5 We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ. 6 And we will be ready to punish every act of disobedience, once your obedience is complete.
Amen .
 
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It saddens me that our society (I can only speak from an American context) promotes any and all types of sexual expression from as early on as possible. They call this success, they deem this the normal way. I am always shocked when standing in the check out line and I read over the headlines on the most popular magazines. It is all sex, sex, sex, mixed in with materialism and new age "spirituality." More than ever, Christians need to be bold about Christ's teaching of sexual purity. We cannot be perfect, we will fail in some ways, but this world NEEDS the sound voice telling them that what they read in magazines or hear from their friends, doctors and parents are lies. Sex before marriage causes pain, trauma, and devastation. The consequences are sickness and death. I believe Christians must be a witness to this teaching. Most shameful is that these societal views have infiltrated the church and have become the primary teaching instead of God's way. I am sorry it may be hard, I am sorry to Christians who have already fallen into these traps... time to get out and be delivered from your bondage, because we are the ones here to represent Christ and teach and discipline generations on how to follow Him. This is our number one task, and we cannot fail when it comes to issues of sexual purity and sexuality.
Amen .
 
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Isaiah had sex with a prophetess. No marriage, and by todays standards, would be a fornicator. What do you think of his situation? Did he defile himself based off of our understanding of what we think marriage is?
 
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Isaiah had sex with a prophetess. No marriage, and by todays standards, would be a fornicator. What do you think of his situation? Did he defile himself based off of our understanding of what we think marriage is?
If we fornicate, we bring pain into our lives. That is why Jesus told us not to fornicate. It is for our own good that he warned us.
 
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Isaiah had sex with a prophetess. No marriage, and by todays standards, would be a fornicator. What do you think of his situation? Did he defile himself based off of our understanding of what we think marriage is?
You have to understand the seriousness of this sin. Pre-marital (and extra-marital) sex is a very serious sin. People want to commit this sin and then act as if it never happened.
 
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Israel

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You have to understand the seriousness of this sin. Pre-marital (and extra-marital) sex is a very serious sin. People want to commit this sin and then act as if it never happened.
Do you believe that the prophet Isaiah will be punished for this "sin" friend?
 
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Consumed

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We can't judge Israel but only follow the teachings of Christ Jesus
 
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Honey12

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I think it's sad how society treats sex.
In fact, I know a 'Christian' girl who think it's fine because according to her the fact the Jesus Christ died for our sins means nothing is sin anymore as long as we believe in him. My mind was blown.
 
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Do you believe that the prophet Isaiah will be punished for this "sin" friend?
It isn’t a matter of punishment. There are simply consequences to our actions. No one is immune, not even Isaiah.
 
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syborg

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As a Brit looking in on America we see something called beauty pagents happening all the time. . with little girls, dolling them up in little outfits and makeup. this is not good. . the 'body beautiful' appears rife in American culture from outside.. Im sorry to say but my 'label' for american culture is 'plastic fantastic'
 
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I don't view those two passages as being about pre-marital sex. Fornication usually just means sleeping around and the second passage seems to be talking about outside of marriage... Like while he's married haha or at least that's how I've always read them. Maybe I'm wrong.
 
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The bible we follow today was derived from those days of Isaiah and others of course not leaving out the gospels that tell us about the life of jesus.I think that was fornication.
 
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I don't view those two passages as being about pre-marital sex. Fornication usually just means sleeping around and the second passage seems to be talking about outside of marriage... Like while he's married haha or at least that's how I've always read them. Maybe I'm wrong.
I don’t interpret the words of Jesus. I try to obey them. Fornication is having sexual intercourse with someone we aren’t married to. Jesus said not to do it. Jesus said it was a sin to look lustfully at another person.
 
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The bible we follow today was derived from those days of Isaiah and others of course not leaving out the gospels that tell us about the life of jesus.I think that was fornication.
Fornication is having sexual intercourse with someone we aren’t married to.
 
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TheGrungeDiva

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Isaiah had sex with a prophetess. No marriage, and by todays standards, would be a fornicator. What do you think of his situation? Did he defile himself based off of our understanding of what we think marriage is?
Can you provide BCV for this, please?
 
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TheGrungeDiva

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I don't view those two passages as being about pre-marital sex. Fornication usually just means sleeping around and the second passage seems to be talking about outside of marriage... Like while he's married haha or at least that's how I've always read them. Maybe I'm wrong.
I think you are correct. "Fornication" does not necessarily mean all sex outside of marriage.

Another question is, how do you define marriage? Until a few years ago, there was not necessarily a church-sponsored ritual involved in a couple joining. In New Testament times, in fact, the act of having sex was what made a couple married (consummation). So strictly speaking, every couple had sex before they were married (except for those wealthy enough to afford a formal wedding, like Jesus' mom's friend at Cana - and sometimes even those weddings were after-the-fact).

This is not to say that sex is okay, and you can go ahead and sleep with whomever you want. The Bible indicates that sex is a gift from God, and not to be tossed about like Carnival Beads. It is to be cherished, preferably reserved for the one person with whom you spend your whole life. The rampant "do whatever feels good" that is prevalent in our society (and not just in the US) is damaging to the soul.
 
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Genesis 24:67 *And Isaac brought her into his mother Sarah's tent, and took Rebekah, and she became his wife; and he loved her: and Isaac was comforted after his mother's death.

Genesis 2:21 *¶And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
22 *And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
23 *And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
24 *Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
25 *And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.


Matthew 19:4 *And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
5 *And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
6 *Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.


1 Corinthians 6:14 *And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.
15 *Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.
16 *What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.
17 *But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.
18 *Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
19 *What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
20 *For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.


Ephesians 5:25 *Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
26 *That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
27 *That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
28 *So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
29 *For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
30 *For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
31 *For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
32 *This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
33 *Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.