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but Pete its all ive ever believed is pretrib, all my friends are pretrib, my church is pretrib.
I had a special licence plate made that says pretrib, t-shirts, and a carving close to my front door.
I only listen to pretrib Christian bands, and only drink milk from a pretrib cow. Your messing me up dude!
I had a special licence plate made that says pretrib, t-shirts, and a carving close to my front door.
I only listen to pretrib Christian bands, and only drink milk from a pretrib cow. Your messing me up dude!
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Yeah, and what would be most hilarious of all is if he actually means it.
Quickly, there are a lot of OT examples of God's people having to
suffer though great tribulations, and being PROTECTED through them.
Which is what I believe will be the case coming up.
Would God miss this golden opportunity to AGAIN show off His incredible glory?
However, The Great Tribulation is promised to be the worst ever.
Christians will go through at least some of this ... until we are removed.
3 possibilities come to mind: mid-Trib, pre-Wrath, post-Trib.
Also, don't anyone confuse this period with the time of God's wrath.
Two totally different events, time periods, etc.
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Quickly, there are a lot of OT examples of God's people having to
suffer though great tribulations, and being PROTECTED through them.
Which is what I believe will be the case coming up.
Would God miss this golden opportunity to AGAIN show off His incredible glory?
However, The Great Tribulation is promised to be the worst ever.
Christians will go through at least some of this ... until we are removed.
3 possibilities come to mind: mid-Trib, pre-Wrath, post-Trib.
Also, don't anyone confuse this period with the time of God's wrath.
Two totally different events, time periods, etc.
.
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I believe we will be removed at th epost trib 2nd coming as Christ is returning to Earth right before He rains down fire on the wicked.
Luke 17:26-30
26 And as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, and they were given into marriage, until Noah entered into the ark then the flood came and destroyed them all.
The very day Noah entered the ark the flood came and destroyed them all, once again it was not a seven year prolonged period of destruction but it was immediate, the very day the righteous were removed.
28 Likewise also as it was in the day of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
29 But THE SAME DAY that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone down from heaven and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day the Son of man shall be revealed.
It very clear the SAME DAY Noah went on the ark the flood came and destroyed them all. The SAME DAY Lot was taken, out of Sodom fire and brimstone rain from heaven and destroyed them all. The text says this is exactly how it will be when Jesus returns. The very SAME DAY Jesus returns at His post trib second coming is the very SAME DAY we will be taken out or '' raptured '' and it is the very SAME DAY He will destroy the wicked. This is confirmed by 2nd Thessalonians 1:6-10.
2nd Thessalonians 1:6-10
6 Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation on them that trouble you;
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe ( because our testimony among you was believed ) in that day.
We receive our rest when Jesus is revealed with his mighty angels in flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God. In other words we are raptured at the post trib second coming when Jesus returns to destroy the wicked with fire. Lets look at verse 7 and 8 again.
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
There is no question that this passage places the post trib second coming, the rapture of the saints, and the destruction of the wicked all at the very same time.
Luke 17:26-30
26 And as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, and they were given into marriage, until Noah entered into the ark then the flood came and destroyed them all.
The very day Noah entered the ark the flood came and destroyed them all, once again it was not a seven year prolonged period of destruction but it was immediate, the very day the righteous were removed.
28 Likewise also as it was in the day of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
29 But THE SAME DAY that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone down from heaven and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day the Son of man shall be revealed.
It very clear the SAME DAY Noah went on the ark the flood came and destroyed them all. The SAME DAY Lot was taken, out of Sodom fire and brimstone rain from heaven and destroyed them all. The text says this is exactly how it will be when Jesus returns. The very SAME DAY Jesus returns at His post trib second coming is the very SAME DAY we will be taken out or '' raptured '' and it is the very SAME DAY He will destroy the wicked. This is confirmed by 2nd Thessalonians 1:6-10.
2nd Thessalonians 1:6-10
6 Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation on them that trouble you;
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe ( because our testimony among you was believed ) in that day.
We receive our rest when Jesus is revealed with his mighty angels in flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God. In other words we are raptured at the post trib second coming when Jesus returns to destroy the wicked with fire. Lets look at verse 7 and 8 again.
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
There is no question that this passage places the post trib second coming, the rapture of the saints, and the destruction of the wicked all at the very same time.
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I think I know what you mean 4runner.
I am also post-trib pre-wrath the seven last plagues.
Most pre-tribes don’t understand that.
So when I say wrath I mean plagues the 7 trumpets. For in the OT when God’s wrath was kindled He sent a plague.
Most pre-tribes don’t understand that
Just to make it easier to preach the gospel to pre-tribes I say wrath but I do mean plagues for plagues are wrath.
Rv15:1 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God.2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, [and] over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.
If you would like to go into more detail about it let me no
Love from peter
I am also post-trib pre-wrath the seven last plagues.
Most pre-tribes don’t understand that.
So when I say wrath I mean plagues the 7 trumpets. For in the OT when God’s wrath was kindled He sent a plague.
Most pre-tribes don’t understand that
Just to make it easier to preach the gospel to pre-tribes I say wrath but I do mean plagues for plagues are wrath.
Rv15:1 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God.2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, [and] over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.
If you would like to go into more detail about it let me no
Love from peter
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