wolves in sheeps clothing

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Mar 18, 2011
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8-21-11 I satyed up all night fasting and defending my brothers in Crist on this cristian chat forum. I have come to understand somuch in the Lord,prais be to God.
I have always know that once we profess Jesus as our Lord we are commanded to flee from sin-and i was truly amazed at a group of "christians" who attacked not only the truth of fleeing from sin, but attacked my brethren as well as my self for defending them in their absenc.
they were un like christians in every way except they professed Jesus as their Saviour. They were constantly viscious,calling all forms of names and swearing curse words at us. Calling us the worst kind of sinners and heretics.
They claim it is not piossible to abstain from sin "even with Jesus dwelling within you" and they suggest any such thing is boasting of our selves, that we are in our selves righteous like God.
They ignored all doctrine we provided regarding dyng to the flesh- lossing your life for Gods sake- bearing your cross daily etc.
They ignored our pleas, that it is the opposite of what they claim, it is not a boast, but a humbling.
We know our flesh is so sinfull, that we cannot trust it. So we ignor and reckon our flesh worthy of death, to the point we choose to only hear Gods voice and not our own carnal desires.
They then still being viscious in all manners with their toungues accused us of admitting that we were now glorifying our selves by claiming perfect obedience to God. Constantly asking when we sinned last. Hoping to hear we had, or to accuse us of lying if we had not recently . As if the very fact we where still growing as christians was in some way evidence ther is no hope of doing away with the sins in your life- even through Jesus Crist- be cause they say that its not until after we die that this is possible- that is absurd and in no way doctrine in the bible.
It says to gird your loins with righteousness- that not everyone who cries Lord,Lord shall be saved, for they were workers of iniquitey-to pick up our crosses daily and follow our Lord- and deny our selvse to be a new creature not born of the flesh but of the Spirit, who use the same members that once worked iniquity to work righteousness.
These" christians" then accuse us of mutilating the Word of God. I have never witnessed souch evil.
what is the parable of not placing new wine in an old wine skin? Except to say you cannot take what is Holy and put it n a vessel of sin? For they will coflict, breaking and spilling everything on the ground.
These " christians" say to compare your life to Jesus's is sin of the highest sort- because it lowers the righteousness of Jesus to our level.Jesus came down to us, we didn't go up to Him.
He came down to us teaching the road to salvation. When God seperates the wheat from the chaff, He will know what manner of vine from which we stem by the fruit that we will bear.
Christian liiterally means-Like Crist.
A demon follows satan- would he work righteousness?
we are of God- would we work iniquity?
These "christians"say we don't have the power to do that "RIGHT THEY ARE!!!" we have Jesus He can do that in us if we dwell in Him and deny our sinfull,natural voice(that is always speaking wickedly twisted utterings).
We then become "NEW CREATURS" ( dead to the flesh and born unto spirit)For we can choose to follow our flesh which is sin or to confess Jesus is Lord and obey the holy spirit which is of the spirit,for one cannot serve both mannon and God.
Rat poisson is 99% good food so i know why satan uses "christians" to soil our faith. However he should have taken care to camoflag better, for no child of God would be so viscious toward anyone. Jesus said to pray for your enemies-not spit on them, you shall know them by their fruits.
For those who will undoubtedly accuse me of spitting on my enemies by saying they are of satan-it is not an attack to read the pattern on ones flag. it is not unrighteous to call a poisonous snake a viper.
I am aware their are two groups claiming the same about eachother. That is to be expected-satan has no choise while attempting to slay the lost sheep who look for the shepherd except to dress like a sheep and sound like the shepherd in an an attempt to deceive the very elect. Dont take my word for it check the credentials of the sheep-and listen to the voice of the one true Shepherd Amen
 
Feb 16, 2011
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I believe the moral of the story of the wolves in sheeps clothing is not to just except the clothing. If we go through the Christian life giving a litmus test of the sheep's clothing even the wolves could pass. Alot of Churches are oriented to test your clothing not who you are. We get to know people without hearing their confession of the Lord or see what they do. They could be fornicators or abortionist and arrive at the church in sheep's clothing. Wolves can't be sheep. They can disguise themselves to look like sheep, but they are not born again, not impowered by God, not a new creation. They are still wicked.
 
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inb4 "everyone else is the wolf"
 
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DiscipleWilliam

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Greetings Brother,

Me personally, I would like to start by saying that yes we are born with a fallen nature but that nature inspires our natural man toward sinful proclivities and therefore is wretched. Your fallen nature is what is inherited through Adam, this imprisons the natural man (i.e., the will within you that makes choices- those thus becoming negative). When we are saved the natural (old) man is crucified with Christ (Romans 6:6), and you are given a "new" nature (man=heart). But that fallen nature still remains -evidence of this truth is the sin that is still committed by the believer against a Holy God even after knowing that it is abhorrent in the eyes of God.
Hopefully this can shed some light on the sinfulness of man.
 
Mar 18, 2011
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I would like to apologize for the poor spelling in my post. I wasn't around a computer and I phoned this message in to a friend, and had him log in for me and post this. Again my apologies lol.
 
Aug 18, 2011
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8-21-11 I satyed up all night fasting and defending my brothers in Crist on this cristian chat forum. I have come to understand somuch in the Lord,prais be to God.
I have always know that once we profess Jesus as our Lord we are commanded to flee from sin-and i was truly amazed at a group of "christians" who attacked not only the truth of fleeing from sin, but attacked my brethren as well as my self for defending them in their absenc.
they were un like christians in every way except they professed Jesus as their Saviour. They were constantly viscious,calling all forms of names and swearing curse words at us. Calling us the worst kind of sinners and heretics.
They claim it is not piossible to abstain from sin "even with Jesus dwelling within you" and they suggest any such thing is boasting of our selves, that we are in our selves righteous like God.
They ignored all doctrine we provided regarding dyng to the flesh- lossing your life for Gods sake- bearing your cross daily etc.
They ignored our pleas, that it is the opposite of what they claim, it is not a boast, but a humbling.
We know our flesh is so sinfull, that we cannot trust it. So we ignor and reckon our flesh worthy of death, to the point we choose to only hear Gods voice and not our own carnal desires.
They then still being viscious in all manners with their toungues accused us of admitting that we were now glorifying our selves by claiming perfect obedience to God. Constantly asking when we sinned last. Hoping to hear we had, or to accuse us of lying if we had not recently . As if the very fact we where still growing as christians was in some way evidence ther is no hope of doing away with the sins in your life- even through Jesus Crist- be cause they say that its not until after we die that this is possible- that is absurd and in no way doctrine in the bible.
It says to gird your loins with righteousness- that not everyone who cries Lord,Lord shall be saved, for they were workers of iniquitey-to pick up our crosses daily and follow our Lord- and deny our selvse to be a new creature not born of the flesh but of the Spirit, who use the same members that once worked iniquity to work righteousness.
These" christians" then accuse us of mutilating the Word of God. I have never witnessed souch evil.
what is the parable of not placing new wine in an old wine skin? Except to say you cannot take what is Holy and put it n a vessel of sin? For they will coflict, breaking and spilling everything on the ground.
These " christians" say to compare your life to Jesus's is sin of the highest sort- because it lowers the righteousness of Jesus to our level.Jesus came down to us, we didn't go up to Him.
He came down to us teaching the road to salvation. When God seperates the wheat from the chaff, He will know what manner of vine from which we stem by the fruit that we will bear.
Christian liiterally means-Like Crist.
A demon follows satan- would he work righteousness?
we are of God- would we work iniquity?
These "christians"say we don't have the power to do that "RIGHT THEY ARE!!!" we have Jesus He can do that in us if we dwell in Him and deny our sinfull,natural voice(that is always speaking wickedly twisted utterings).
We then become "NEW CREATURS" ( dead to the flesh and born unto spirit)For we can choose to follow our flesh which is sin or to confess Jesus is Lord and obey the holy spirit which is of the spirit,for one cannot serve both mannon and God.
Rat poisson is 99% good food so i know why satan uses "christians" to soil our faith. However he should have taken care to camoflag better, for no child of God would be so viscious toward anyone. Jesus said to pray for your enemies-not spit on them, you shall know them by their fruits.
For those who will undoubtedly accuse me of spitting on my enemies by saying they are of satan-it is not an attack to read the pattern on ones flag. it is not unrighteous to call a poisonous snake a viper.
I am aware their are two groups claiming the same about eachother. That is to be expected-satan has no choise while attempting to slay the lost sheep who look for the shepherd except to dress like a sheep and sound like the shepherd in an an attempt to deceive the very elect. Dont take my word for it check the credentials of the sheep-and listen to the voice of the one true Shepherd Amen

good post man

Peace and love brother

corripiens iridis manet
 

zone

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how silly!
why does anyone care about wolves?

paranoid much?

anyways.....i have to go beg The Lord to forgive me for sin i haven't committed yet.
and plead for mercy that He might decide to save me if i obey The Law perfectly seamlessly.

wish me luck.

don't worry about wolves...they are none.

in all humility,
love you all.

i'm just a simple sinner who hopes to be saved one day, but my Bible isn't doing much good, its just letters on paper.

any suggestions?

love everyone!
hugs and good wishes to all!
zone
 
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i'm just a simple sinner who hopes to be saved one day, but my Bible isn't doing much good, its just letters on paper.

any suggestions?

love everyone!
hugs and good wishes to all!
zone
sarcasm and logical fallacies do not save souls...



Ridiculing the Bible is a strawman argument for the Bible is God's holy inspired love message to the world.

however you and strangelove can do an impromptu number together today.
 

zone

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who said this is saracsm ananada?
the vast majority of posts here tell me something other than what i've been reading in the Bible.

apparently the gospel presented in the bible doesn't save souls either.

so tell me what does

there's a list ten miles long on here.

sort through it all and tell me:

WHAT MUST I DO TO BE SAVED?

ridiculing the Bible?
GOES ON EVERY SINGLE DAY IN HERE.


who cares?
LOVE YOU ALL NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT CHRIST OR HIS WORD!

love love love
zone
 
Aug 12, 2010
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I would like to apologize for the poor spelling in my post. I wasn't around a computer and I phoned this message in to a friend, and had him log in for me and post this. Again my apologies lol.
Sorry's not good enough, you will have to crucify your flesh and and do 3 deny yourself's daily for 2 weeks for that.
 
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They claim it is not piossible to abstain from sin "even with Jesus dwelling within you" and they suggest any such thing is boasting of our selves, that we are in our selves righteous like God.

These" christians" then accuse us of mutilating the Word of God. I have never witnessed souch evil.

How dare anyone accuse us of still falling short of the mark on occasion ?!! Not only is it possible to be sinless in our flesh ........ it is required of us. Otherwise, we're not really saved .......and don't you believe that we are.......even if you only sin occasionally. THERE ARE NO EXCUSES. Thankfully, I haven't sinned for as long as I can remember. And I abhor those who claim that I am merely boasting of myself. If it weren't for Christ's example, I'd still be as lost as they are. Too many these days think that Christ's death on the cross was God's "sacrifice" for our sins. If only they knew and understood that Christ's "example" was to show us that we can indeed be perfect in our flesh.........to be "Christ-like". I have never witnessed such evil either. Oh Lord ......thank-you for giving me the understanding that is necessary to be just like you.
 
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How dare anyone accuse us of still falling short of the mark on occasion ?!! Not only is it possible to be sinless in our flesh ........ it is required of us. Otherwise, we're not really saved .......and don't you believe that we are.......even if you only sin occasionally. THERE ARE NO EXCUSES. Thankfully, I haven't sinned for as long as I can remember. And I abhor those who claim that I am merely boasting of myself. If it weren't for Christ's example, I'd still be as lost as they are. Too many these days think that Christ's death on the cross was God's "sacrifice" for our sins. If only they knew and understood that Christ's "example" was to show us that we can indeed be perfect in our flesh.........to be "Christ-like". I have never witnessed such evil either. Oh Lord ......thank-you for giving me the understanding that is necessary to be just like you.
That poor man who called himself. Christ. He came down here and suffered so much for nothing. I mean we can really earn our salvation by being sinless. Thank God for the law. If it were not for that long list of rules and regulations. I would never know how to be saved!Thank God even more for the pharisees, if it were not for them, we would not know it is really possible to be holy and righteous and not need Christ!!
 

zone

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Jun 13, 2010
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8-21-11 I satyed up all night fasting and defending my brothers in Crist on this cristian chat forum. I have come to understand somuch in the Lord,prais be to God.
I have always know that once we profess Jesus as our Lord we are commanded to flee from sin-and i was truly amazed at a group of "christians" who attacked not only the truth of fleeing from sin, but attacked my brethren as well as my self for defending them in their absenc.
they were un like christians in every way except they professed Jesus as their Saviour. They were constantly viscious,calling all forms of names and swearing curse words at us. Calling us the worst kind of sinners and heretics.
They claim it is not piossible to abstain from sin "even with Jesus dwelling within you" and they suggest any such thing is boasting of our selves, that we are in our selves righteous like God.
They ignored all doctrine we provided regarding dyng to the flesh- lossing your life for Gods sake- bearing your cross daily etc.
They ignored our pleas, that it is the opposite of what they claim, it is not a boast, but a humbling.
We know our flesh is so sinfull, that we cannot trust it. So we ignor and reckon our flesh worthy of death, to the point we choose to only hear Gods voice and not our own carnal desires.
They then still being viscious in all manners with their toungues accused us of admitting that we were now glorifying our selves by claiming perfect obedience to God. Constantly asking when we sinned last. Hoping to hear we had, or to accuse us of lying if we had not recently . As if the very fact we where still growing as christians was in some way evidence ther is no hope of doing away with the sins in your life- even through Jesus Crist- be cause they say that its not until after we die that this is possible- that is absurd and in no way doctrine in the bible.
It says to gird your loins with righteousness- that not everyone who cries Lord,Lord shall be saved, for they were workers of iniquitey-to pick up our crosses daily and follow our Lord- and deny our selvse to be a new creature not born of the flesh but of the Spirit, who use the same members that once worked iniquity to work righteousness.
These" christians" then accuse us of mutilating the Word of God. I have never witnessed souch evil.
what is the parable of not placing new wine in an old wine skin? Except to say you cannot take what is Holy and put it n a vessel of sin? For they will coflict, breaking and spilling everything on the ground.
These " christians" say to compare your life to Jesus's is sin of the highest sort- because it lowers the righteousness of Jesus to our level.Jesus came down to us, we didn't go up to Him.
He came down to us teaching the road to salvation. When God seperates the wheat from the chaff, He will know what manner of vine from which we stem by the fruit that we will bear.
Christian liiterally means-Like Crist.
A demon follows satan- would he work righteousness?
we are of God- would we work iniquity?
These "christians"say we don't have the power to do that "RIGHT THEY ARE!!!" we have Jesus He can do that in us if we dwell in Him and deny our sinfull,natural voice(that is always speaking wickedly twisted utterings).
We then become "NEW CREATURS" ( dead to the flesh and born unto spirit)For we can choose to follow our flesh which is sin or to confess Jesus is Lord and obey the holy spirit which is of the spirit,for one cannot serve both mannon and God.
Rat poisson is 99% good food so i know why satan uses "christians" to soil our faith. However he should have taken care to camoflag better, for no child of God would be so viscious toward anyone. Jesus said to pray for your enemies-not spit on them, you shall know them by their fruits.
For those who will undoubtedly accuse me of spitting on my enemies by saying they are of satan-it is not an attack to read the pattern on ones flag. it is not unrighteous to call a poisonous snake a viper.
I am aware their are two groups claiming the same about eachother. That is to be expected-satan has no choise while attempting to slay the lost sheep who look for the shepherd except to dress like a sheep and sound like the shepherd in an an attempt to deceive the very elect. Dont take my word for it check the credentials of the sheep-and listen to the voice of the one true Shepherd Amen
aren't we perfect and so pious and religious.

i'm glad you mentioned you fasted and prayed all night.

we might not have known that if you hadn't been so religious to tell us.

what a self-righteous individual you are....and all like you.

you KNOW NOTHING about others here or their individual sin.

i choose every day to be that tax collector.

but aren't you so grateful you're not like other men.
 

zone

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That poor man who called himself. Christ. He came down here and suffered so much for nothing. I mean we can really earn our salvation by being sinless. Thank God for the law. If it were not for that long list of rules and regulations. I would never know how to be saved!Thank God even more for the pharisees, if it were not for them, we would not know it is really possible to be holy and righteous and not need Christ!!
i agree EG.

i think i'll go fast and pray and come here and talk about it.

will you respect me more? will that make me religious?

all comfy cozy, going fishing and working out. preaching perfection and obedience. i wonder how they do it? is the Law that easy?

CRUCIFYING THEMSELVES - i wonder why Jesus had to bother?
 
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unclefester

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That poor man who called himself. Christ. He came down here and suffered so much for nothing. I mean we can really earn our salvation by being sinless. Thank God for the law. If it were not for that long list of rules and regulations. I would never know how to be saved!Thank God even more for the pharisees, if it were not for them, we would not know it is really possible to be holy and righteous and not need Christ!!
I'm thinking those Pharisee's got a bad rap EG. I mean ....... they tried sooooo hard :)
 
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unclefester

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i agree EG.

i think i'll go fast and pray and come here and talk about it.

will you respect me more? will that make me religious?

all comfy cozy, going fishing and working out. preaching perfection and obedience. i wonder how they do it? is the Law that easy?

CRUCIFYING THEMSELVES - i wonder why Jesus had to bother?
Speaking of which ....... I'm looking for somebody to drive that last nail thru my hand.......after which I'll be able to hang here and suffer ........just like Christ did :eek:
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I'm thinking those Pharisee's got a bad rap EG. I mean ....... they tried sooooo hard :)
yeah, Even jesus himself said if our righteousness does not match up with there's we have no hope. we should all act like them!!
 

zone

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Speaking of which ....... I'm looking for somebody to drive that last nail thru my hand.......after which I'll be able to hang here and suffer ........just like Christ did :eek:
yes...well there are 2 here that shared a vision/joint prophecy of doing just that.
we should listen to them.
others do.
and they get AMEN! AA-A-A-A-A-A-AMEN!

forget your bible and any real gospel Fester.
there's no hope in that.

get WORKING.