Deadflesh posted this on the against NAR thread, and even though some of what he says is about not trusting the NAR guys (which I dont, that is not the point. the point is it is a choice to love.
Here is his post
So whether Zone has a demon or not. I choose to love her. She is a human for which Jesus died, and I will not be a stumbling block for her any longer.
Romans 14
10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
13 Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.
14 I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.
15 But if thy brother be grieved with thy meat, now walkest thou not charitably. Destroy not him with thy meat, for whom Christ died.
16 Let not then your good be evil spoken of:
17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
P.S. I am going on a week long internet fast. So if i dont respond i am not ignoring you.
May you all be blessed richly by God in all things, even as your soul prospers.
Here is his post
If MORE then one person is on here(Zone, myself, Anandahya, Doc, Abiding maybe a few more) are against them. And at lest TWO(and now three witnesses if you take into account Pat Holiday) are continuists, SO thats three peopel who belive almost the same, that say these peopel are NOT to be trusted. and are to be avoided. Its a shock to the system maybe, Just like when i try to expalin to my Father that PRe-trib is a lie, he CANT belive it, becasue in his mind ALL that oposes Dispensationalism is of the devil. So its a simmialr thing
Right...
now why do you call them haters of truth? Because to you, they may be deceived?
Ok, Well TO THEM your deceived. So can peopel who TRULY love JESUS be deceived. Well the Bible says a Child of GOD CAN be deceived, and then it says Over adn over DO NOT BE DECEIVED(i think i nthe NEW testement it sasy so 7 times, Once By Jesus, the rest by the Holy spirit through the epistles.)
Yes Well They do seem to hate anythig that calls its self a manifestation OF the holy spirit. But From a NON cessationist, i see it as reason, not good reason, i belive cessationism to be deception, But what about the peopel who are continuists, who cant TELL the difference betwen the TRUTH and the FALSE manifestations. I must tell you 4 Runner, the stuff eminatting from Joyner and those he associates with(stemming from BobJones) are FALSE holy spirit.
So Actually These peopel who vehemently hate these teachings, if followed carefully have been a GREAT service to the Continuist Bretheren, becasue I have been shown what to stay away from and what NOT to have "emparted" to me. If you can understadn that.
Look if im deceived and the tounges i speak are deception and God is not making me weep for my town/state/family/ friends and i do not have the spirit of GOD groaning from with inme, while i pray, and i do not see demons, and i do not have other gifts, if its all an illusion, then i will benefit greatly from my cessationist Bretheren. However if They are the ones that are slightly deceived, becasue of there own unbeleif(sin) and lack of faith(becasue of fear and hatred of the FALSE, like NAR) then I beleive they will be shown the error of there ways if they LOVE truth. i know the great majority love the lord, and i also know MOST of us are babes in christ still(5 years and under) So GOD will get ALL his saints to where they need to be. Understand. So the hatred on ether side, from where i stand is useless. Just, becasue some one was taught that the gifts arent for today(nor prophets and apostels) Doesnt mean they are False. And on the other sepctrum just because some one speaks in tounges doesnt mean they are False.
...eeeeeyeah, no, it was defence. It was my friend,
Defend means "to drive danger or attack away" To you they were attacking, so you defended. Becasue to you you were defending GOD.(holy spirit)and the bretheren, and you lumped NAR with it, becasue to you these people are evil so that means Rick Joyner must not be all to bad. Now again IM not a cessationist, i belive its deception, but i do not belive that salvation hinges on that point. I belive that if they are TRUE sons of God, then GOD will get them to where HE wants them. I know peopel who were EXTREMALY annointed who did not speak in tounges. And I also know men who were chosen by God, annonited who beleived i na pre trib rapture(david wilkerson is one of them)
Well I know personally that, THAT my friend, is an ignorant statement, they are not wrong on 90% of what they say(even if its 75% thats still an ignorant statement) And its good to warn peopel but please KNOW what you are warning them from? I hope Noahsmom DOES study it out for herself. And i hope YOU do to, adn take EVERYONES words on the issue, FOr and against, cessationist, and continuist. And you will see that, wether the person speaks in tounges, or the person doesnt speak in tounges the ones exposing this stuff, are doign it for the SAME REASONS and have the SAME POINTS.
Well I KNOW who Zone is. And she is a crazy lady who fears the manifestations of the Spirit.
haha But i love her dearly and she is one of my favorite people i have ever had the blesings of meeting on this here interweb. I belive she LOVES Jesus(was never presentedwith reason to belive otherwise), and she knows its her calling to expose certain things. Which alwasy made me wonder HOW she was called if she doesnt think God talks to us anymore...hahah but thats another topic.
So if you dont want to take advice from me, Because i think Zone is a human with short commings, then..ok you dont have to. I love you TO 4Runner(another human with short commings), As much as im sure Zone will cringe at that sentance, but you BOTH really need to get of your high horse and just flippen love each other. NO MATTER WHAT.
Or ill find out where both of you live and have to cast out some demons. LOVE DARN IT! Jesus Bless you.
Right...
now why do you call them haters of truth? Because to you, they may be deceived?
Ok, Well TO THEM your deceived. So can peopel who TRULY love JESUS be deceived. Well the Bible says a Child of GOD CAN be deceived, and then it says Over adn over DO NOT BE DECEIVED(i think i nthe NEW testement it sasy so 7 times, Once By Jesus, the rest by the Holy spirit through the epistles.)
Yes Well They do seem to hate anythig that calls its self a manifestation OF the holy spirit. But From a NON cessationist, i see it as reason, not good reason, i belive cessationism to be deception, But what about the peopel who are continuists, who cant TELL the difference betwen the TRUTH and the FALSE manifestations. I must tell you 4 Runner, the stuff eminatting from Joyner and those he associates with(stemming from BobJones) are FALSE holy spirit.
So Actually These peopel who vehemently hate these teachings, if followed carefully have been a GREAT service to the Continuist Bretheren, becasue I have been shown what to stay away from and what NOT to have "emparted" to me. If you can understadn that.
Look if im deceived and the tounges i speak are deception and God is not making me weep for my town/state/family/ friends and i do not have the spirit of GOD groaning from with inme, while i pray, and i do not see demons, and i do not have other gifts, if its all an illusion, then i will benefit greatly from my cessationist Bretheren. However if They are the ones that are slightly deceived, becasue of there own unbeleif(sin) and lack of faith(becasue of fear and hatred of the FALSE, like NAR) then I beleive they will be shown the error of there ways if they LOVE truth. i know the great majority love the lord, and i also know MOST of us are babes in christ still(5 years and under) So GOD will get ALL his saints to where they need to be. Understand. So the hatred on ether side, from where i stand is useless. Just, becasue some one was taught that the gifts arent for today(nor prophets and apostels) Doesnt mean they are False. And on the other sepctrum just because some one speaks in tounges doesnt mean they are False.
...eeeeeyeah, no, it was defence. It was my friend,
Defend means "to drive danger or attack away" To you they were attacking, so you defended. Becasue to you you were defending GOD.(holy spirit)and the bretheren, and you lumped NAR with it, becasue to you these people are evil so that means Rick Joyner must not be all to bad. Now again IM not a cessationist, i belive its deception, but i do not belive that salvation hinges on that point. I belive that if they are TRUE sons of God, then GOD will get them to where HE wants them. I know peopel who were EXTREMALY annointed who did not speak in tounges. And I also know men who were chosen by God, annonited who beleived i na pre trib rapture(david wilkerson is one of them)
Well I know personally that, THAT my friend, is an ignorant statement, they are not wrong on 90% of what they say(even if its 75% thats still an ignorant statement) And its good to warn peopel but please KNOW what you are warning them from? I hope Noahsmom DOES study it out for herself. And i hope YOU do to, adn take EVERYONES words on the issue, FOr and against, cessationist, and continuist. And you will see that, wether the person speaks in tounges, or the person doesnt speak in tounges the ones exposing this stuff, are doign it for the SAME REASONS and have the SAME POINTS.
Well I KNOW who Zone is. And she is a crazy lady who fears the manifestations of the Spirit.
haha But i love her dearly and she is one of my favorite people i have ever had the blesings of meeting on this here interweb. I belive she LOVES Jesus(was never presentedwith reason to belive otherwise), and she knows its her calling to expose certain things. Which alwasy made me wonder HOW she was called if she doesnt think God talks to us anymore...hahah but thats another topic.
So if you dont want to take advice from me, Because i think Zone is a human with short commings, then..ok you dont have to. I love you TO 4Runner(another human with short commings), As much as im sure Zone will cringe at that sentance, but you BOTH really need to get of your high horse and just flippen love each other. NO MATTER WHAT.
Or ill find out where both of you live and have to cast out some demons. LOVE DARN IT! Jesus Bless you.
Romans 14
10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
13 Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.
14 I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.
15 But if thy brother be grieved with thy meat, now walkest thou not charitably. Destroy not him with thy meat, for whom Christ died.
16 Let not then your good be evil spoken of:
17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
P.S. I am going on a week long internet fast. So if i dont respond i am not ignoring you.
May you all be blessed richly by God in all things, even as your soul prospers.
