Not one stone shall be left upon another?

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Aliciaforjesus

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Luke 21:5-6
Then, as some spoke of the temple, how it was adorned with beautiful stones and donations, He said,
These things which you see-
The day will come in which not one stone shall be left upon another that shall not be thrown down.

Mark 13:1-2
Then as He went out of the temple,
one of His disciples said to Him,
"Teacher, see what manner of stones and what buildings are here!"
And Jesus answered and said to him,
"Do you see these great buildings?
Not one stone shall be left upon another,
that shall not be thrown down."

Mat. 24:1-2 He talks about the same thing.

Each time the Lord spoke here He was talking about the end times.
Could it be that the church as we know it will crumble?



 
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Aliciaforjesus said:
Luke 21:5-6
Then, as some spoke of the temple, how it was adorned with beautiful stones and donations, He said,
These things which you see-
The day will come in which not one stone shall be left upon another that shall not be thrown down.

Mark 13:1-2
Then as He went out of the temple,
one of His disciples said to Him,
"Teacher, see what manner of stones and what buildings are here!"
And Jesus answered and said to him,
"Do you see these great buildings?
Not one stone shall be left upon another,
that shall not be thrown down."

Mat. 24:1-2 He talks about the same thing.

Each time the Lord spoke here He was talking about the end times.
Could it be that the church as we know it will crumble?
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Only if Jesus is a liar. He said the Church will last until the end of time; that the gates of hell will not prevail against the Church. Matt. 16:18

Luke removes the apocalyptic meaning of Matthew. The early christians expected the parousia to be imminent. Luke changes Matthew's meaning by allowing for a period of the Gentiles.

In Christ

Amen
 
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next_step

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What has this to do with the church? Or do you mean the buildings?
 
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Aliciaforjesus

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next_step said:
What has this to do with the church? Or do you mean the buildings?
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I mean the man made church, after all, are we not the temple of God, that Jesus is building?
Jesus being the chief cornerstone.
We are the temple of God!
Doesn't the word talk of a separation from the wheat and the tears?

We are in the last day right?

Do you think judgment will not fall on the house of God first?

Those that call upon the name of Jesus shall be saved!

Abraham had two children.

One from the slave woman and one from the promise!

One from mans attempt to bring about God will, and the other from the promise of God!

It talks about a veil to be removed and a time of the Gentiles being fulfilled.

Look we are about to have the greatest attack on the church in USA history!

It is coming!

The house that was built on the sand, when the storm came was blown away.
Is your house build on the Rock of Jesus?

If you do not have a testimony of what Jesus has done for you, maybe you need to start talking to him.
 
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Aliciaforjesus

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eric51 said:
Only if Jesus is a liar. He said the Church will last until the end of time; that the gates of hell will not prevail against the Church. Matt. 16:18

Luke removes the apocalyptic meaning of Matthew. The early christians expected the parousia to be imminent. Luke changes Matthew's meaning by allowing for a period of the Gentiles.

In Christ

Amen
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There is a church that Jesus is building, it does not have wall!
Try to destroy this temple, it's not made with human hands, and the gates of hell shall by no means prevail.

The church as we know it, the man made church will reap from what they have sown first, both good and bad!

Judgment falls first on the house of God, so we about to see a separation of the Wheat and the tears!

A whole lot of shaken going on!

The money making motive will crumble and the true children of God will shine!

All creation waits and anticipates to see what the children of God will become!

The Bible says Abraham had two children!

One of man attempt to bring about Gods will, sort of like most churches today. Why else has the church become a clanging symbol, it lack love!

This is the house that is built on sand! (Man made temples)

The other child was from the promise of God,
The one built on the rock of Jesus, His already finished work and faith in His righteousness, not our own!
This is the church that Jesus is building, not a church made with human hands!
It's a church in your heart, it's your spirit, it's you!

You are the temple of God! Death where is your sting?
Destroy this temple and I still live!

You will know them by their love!

 
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Aliciaforjesus said:
Luke 21:5-6
Then, as some spoke of the temple, how it was adorned with beautiful stones and donations, He said,
Not one stone shall be left upon another,
that shall not be thrown down."


Each time the Lord spoke here He was talking about the end times.
Could it be that the church as we know it will crumble?
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Interesting. Especially because they had asked Christ three specific questions,
The questions are (1.)when will the Temple buldings fall where not one stone will be left standing, (2.)what shall be the "sign" of thy coming, and (3.)the end of the world. Christ answers and the context speaks of the Church, the abomination of desolation ans the man of sin takes a seat in the temple (holy Place). The great falling away of the Church before the coming of Christ?

2 Thessalonians 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Sounds like the Church will crumble to me.
 
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Aliciaforjesus

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Messenger7 said:
Interesting. Especially because they had asked Christ three specific questions,
The questions are (1.)when will the Temple buldings fall where not one stone will be left standing, (2.)what shall be the "sign" of thy coming, and (3.)the end of the world. Christ answers and the context speaks of the Church, the abomination of desolation ans the man of sin takes a seat in the temple (holy Place). The great falling away of the Church before the coming of Christ?

2 Thessalonians 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Sounds like the Church will crumble to me.
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Yes!

The Lord says it's coming!
Watch the news and see for yourselves as we face an attack on the church, it has already started!
Home bible studies now being made to have permits!
Increase of things happening in churches, like people getting shot!
Obama being president?
Listen to how He attacks Christians, and at the same time he attends church and tries to act like He not Muslim one second, and then flops to church again.
His intentions are Muslim and that is the spirit of anti-christ.
Judgment is falling on the USA,
It fall on the church first!

A separation of the Wheat and tears!

The real children of God please stand up!

You will know them by their Love!
 
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wisdomseeker

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Aliciaforjesus said:
Yes!

The Lord says it's coming!
Watch the news and see for yourselves as we face an attack on the church, it has already started!
Home bible studies now being made to have permits!
Increase of things happening in churches, like people getting shot!
Obama being president?
Listen to how He attacks Christians, and at the same time he attends church and tries to act like He not Muslim one second, and then flops to church again.
His intentions are Muslim and that is the spirit of anti-christ.
Judgment is falling on the USA,
It fall on the church first!

A separation of the Wheat and tears!

The real children of God please stand up!

You will know them by their Love!
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Peace be to you
The Goverment is doing this because any nut job in the world can open a church atm.This law simply makes the owner of a church specify its belief system to others.


Like some sacrific goats ect,They would have to specify in the charter whats going on there and if they where gunna do that; God forbid.They would have to follow the health codes.



Just because a man walks around calling himself pastor or priest doesnt mean he is totally void of wisdom,understanding,or Love.

Some people are even trying to tell Jesus christ he cant be a Pastor because he is unmarried,Save being married to his church.And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

I think its good.

A false balance is abomination to the LORD: but a just weight is his delight.When pride cometh, then cometh shame: but with the lowly is wisdom.

I have heard the 2nd trumpet,What it means i have no idea yet.I am waiting for revelation on it.I fear we are very close,even at the doors


Love a friend in God
 
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Aliciaforjesus

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Luke 19:41-44

Now as He drew near, He saw the city and wept over it, saying,

"If you had known, even you, especially in this your day, the things that make for your peace!

But now they are hidden from your eyes.

For days will come upon you when your enemies will build an embankment around you,
surround you and close you in on every side,
and level you, and your children to the ground;
and they will not leave in you one stone upon another,
because you did not know the time of your visitation."

VS.45

Then He went to the temple and began to drive out those who bought and sold in it,

saying to them,

" It is written,

'My house is a house of prayer, but you have made it a den of thieves.'"

Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever!

Watch!

Things are about to shake!

The houses built on the rock will stand, but the ones built on sand will crumble!






 
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Aliciaforjesus said:
Luke 21:5-6
Then, as some spoke of the temple, how it was adorned with beautiful stones and donations, He said,
These things which you see-
The day will come in which not one stone shall be left upon another that shall not be thrown down.

Mark 13:1-2
Then as He went out of the temple,
one of His disciples said to Him,
"Teacher, see what manner of stones and what buildings are here!"
And Jesus answered and said to him,
"Do you see these great buildings?
Not one stone shall be left upon another,
that shall not be thrown down."

Mat. 24:1-2 He talks about the same thing.

Each time the Lord spoke here He was talking about the end times.
Could it be that the church as we know it will crumble?
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No Jesus was predicting the destruction of the temple(tabernacle) which was destroyed in A.D. 70.
 
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AMEN Definition!

Why do people continually ignore the context of Scripture? It is very clear what was being referred to as not one stone will be left.... etc.

Jesus prophecy came to pass in 70 AD.
 
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NewJerusalem said:
AMEN Definition!

Why do people continually ignore the context of Scripture? It is very clear what was being referred to as not one stone will be left.... etc.

Jesus prophecy came to pass in 70 AD.
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I agree. there are many scriptures which warn the church of chastisement, but this is quite literal. It is interesting that of the seven churches that are addressed in Revelation, only one (Ephesus) is warned that He might remove the symbol of their inclusion in the church. I believe this shows that while it is possible for a congregation or church organization to lose their place in the body, it is the very last step, it is not easy...
 
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Aliciaforjesus said:
Luke 19:41-44

Now as He drew near, He saw the city and wept over it, saying,

"If you had known, even you, especially in this your day, the things that make for your peace!

But now they are hidden from your eyes.

For days will come upon you when your enemies will build an embankment around you,
surround you and close you in on every side,
and level you, and your children to the ground;
and they will not leave in you one stone upon another,
because you did not know the time of your visitation."

VS.45

Then He went to the temple and began to drive out those who bought and sold in it,

saying to them,

" It is written,

'My house is a house of prayer, but you have made it a den of thieves.'"

Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever!

Watch!

Things are about to shake!

The houses built on the rock will stand, but the ones built on sand will crumble!
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I have said all of this because,
this is what the Lord has told me,
is about to happen.

The world is about to be covered by gross darkness, and

the church as we know it, and enjoy, will not be standing!

It will no longer be ok to be a Christian!

Do you think you will be able to walk into your church?

We are in the last days!

The Bible talks about how the devil makes war on the saints.

Many people will fall away from the faith,
Their hearts waxing cold.(lacking love, the fruit of knowing Jesus)

Many people will turn against each other in fear of loosing their own lives.

The Bible talks about how people in our own families will deliver us unto death.

Just in the last year, there were people from other countries trying to pass in the U.N. a law that makes it illegal to be a Christian, world wide.
The U.N. was formed after World war 2,
Their plan has always been One World Government, it's why they were really formed.

Think about our President!
Do you think a Muslim has any other plan than to get rid of all the Jews and Christians!

God said He would save us from the worst part of it, not all of it.

It is going to be what separates the wheat from the tears,

The goats from the sheep.
 
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The temples been destroyed a few different times. There getting ready to build the temple again. It won't be torn down after that again. Our body temples doesn't matter if someone destroys them we have heaven. The church will not die. There will always be some real Christians.
 
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loveschild said:
The temples been destroyed a few different times. There getting ready to build the temple again. It won't be torn down after that again. Our body temples doesn't matter if someone destroys them we have heaven. The church will not die. There will always be some real Christians.
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"There getting ready to build the temple again. It won't be torn down after that again." ???

even if a building they call a temple is built, it will not be made holy by God, for no building shall be holy again, not made by hands... and guaranteed, any building can and will be either torn down or see decay.

Revelation 21:3..""Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God."


Revelation 21:22.." But I saw no temple in it, for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple."
 
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