Proof the Holy Spirit has the attributes of a person

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Some people exclaim …
How can they say the Trinity is one God in 3 “Persons”?
The Holy Spirit sure doesn’t sound like a “Person” to me.
Of the 3, the Holy Spirit is the least likely to be a “Person”.

The Holy Spirit has the attributes of a person

has wisdom,knowledge,understanding Isaiah 11:2
has a mind ----------------------- Romans 8:27; Acts 15:28
has a will ----------------------- 1 Corinthians 12:11
has joy -------------------------- 1 Thessalonians 1:6

bears witness -------------------- Romans 8:16; 1 John 5:6
comforts ------------------------- Acts 9:31; John 14:16,14;26,15:26,16:7 (KJV)
commissions ---------------------- Acts 20:28
declares ------------------------- John 16:14
devises plans -------------------- Isaiah 30:1
distributes ---------------------- 1 Corinthians 12:11
fellowships ---------------------- Philippians 2:1; 2 Corinthians 13:14
forbids -------------------------- Acts 16:6-7
guides --------------------------- John 16:13
hears ---------------------------- John 16:13
helps ---------------------------- Romans 8:26; John 14:16,14;26,15:26,16:7 (NKJV)
instructs ------------------------ Nehemiah 9:20
intercedes ----------------------- Romans 8:26-27
justifies (declares righteous) --- 1 Corinthians 6:11
knows things --------------------- 1 Corinthians 2:11
leads ---------------------------- Romans 8:14
loves ---------------------------- Romans 15:30; Galatians 5:22
reveals things ------------------- Luke 2:26, Ephesians 3:5
sends ---------------------------- Isaiah 48:16; Acts 13:4
sets people apart (separates) ---- 2 Thessalonians 2:13; 1 Peter 1:2
speaks --------------------------- John 16:13; Acts 8:29,10:19,13:2; Rev 2:7,2:17
strives with man ----------------- Genesis 6:3
teaches -------------------------- 1 Corinthians 2:13
testifies ------------------------ Nehemiah 9:30; John 15:26; Acts 20:23
warns ---------------------------- Acts 20:23

can be lied to ------------------- Acts 5:3-4
can be tested -------------------- Acts 5:9
can be insulted ------------------ Hebrews 10:29
can be grieved (saddened) -------- Isaiah 63:10, Ephesians 4:30
can be quenched (hindered) ------- 1 Thessalonians 5:19

My very own personal contribution to "Ripley's Believe it or not" is the incredible fact that
some church leaders have been deceived into believing that the Holy Spirit is only "a force".
Witness the former Moderator (for 8 years?) of the large (Protestant) United Church of Canada.
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Spirit of God, God is a spirit
 
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damombomb said:
Spirit of God, God is a spirit
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Yes God is a spirit but we were created in His image, not vice versa. In fact in Genesis God says "let us make man in OUR image" so it is very possible that God and mankind do share many attributes although man's are next to nothing in comparison to God.
 
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Crossfire said:
Yes God is a spirit but we were created in His image, not vice versa. In fact in Genesis God says "let us make man in OUR image" so it is very possible that God and mankind do share many attributes although man's are next to nothing in comparison to God.
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Duet: 4/24; For the Lord thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.

Never forget, no matter how much you love your temporory children, Never forget who's children ye are, lest you get burned in embarrasment :eek: FIRE!

Thanks for the great post Atoned For, I needed that :)

Forever in Christ :)
 
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AtonedFor said:
Some people exclaim …
How can they say the Trinity is one God in 3 “Persons”?
The Holy Spirit sure doesn’t sound like a “Person” to me.
Of the 3, the Holy Spirit is the least likely to be a “Person”.

The Holy Spirit has the attributes of a person

has wisdom,knowledge,understanding Isaiah 11:2
has a mind ----------------------- Romans 8:27; Acts 15:28
has a will ----------------------- 1 Corinthians 12:11
has joy -------------------------- 1 Thessalonians 1:6

bears witness -------------------- Romans 8:16; 1 John 5:6
comforts ------------------------- Acts 9:31; John 14:16,14;26,15:26,16:7 (KJV)
commissions ---------------------- Acts 20:28
declares ------------------------- John 16:14
devises plans -------------------- Isaiah 30:1
distributes ---------------------- 1 Corinthians 12:11
fellowships ---------------------- Philippians 2:1; 2 Corinthians 13:14
forbids -------------------------- Acts 16:6-7
guides --------------------------- John 16:13
hears ---------------------------- John 16:13
helps ---------------------------- Romans 8:26; John 14:16,14;26,15:26,16:7 (NKJV)
instructs ------------------------ Nehemiah 9:20
intercedes ----------------------- Romans 8:26-27
justifies (declares righteous) --- 1 Corinthians 6:11
knows things --------------------- 1 Corinthians 2:11
leads ---------------------------- Romans 8:14
loves ---------------------------- Romans 15:30; Galatians 5:22
reveals things ------------------- Luke 2:26, Ephesians 3:5
sends ---------------------------- Isaiah 48:16; Acts 13:4
sets people apart (separates) ---- 2 Thessalonians 2:13; 1 Peter 1:2
speaks --------------------------- John 16:13; Acts 8:29,10:19,13:2; Rev 2:7,2:17
strives with man ----------------- Genesis 6:3
teaches -------------------------- 1 Corinthians 2:13
testifies ------------------------ Nehemiah 9:30; John 15:26; Acts 20:23
warns ---------------------------- Acts 20:23

can be lied to ------------------- Acts 5:3-4
can be tested -------------------- Acts 5:9
can be insulted ------------------ Hebrews 10:29
can be grieved (saddened) -------- Isaiah 63:10, Ephesians 4:30
can be quenched (hindered) ------- 1 Thessalonians 5:19

My very own personal contribution to "Ripley's Believe it or not" is the incredible fact that
some church leaders have been deceived into believing that the Holy Spirit is only "a force".
Witness the former Moderator (for 8 years?) of the large (Protestant) United Church of Canada.
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How arrogant of man to reduce God to a triplicate in man's own image as "persons".

Just because you and others infer F/S/HS to each be in man's image doesn't make it truth.

We are made in God's image. He is Spirit (Holy Spirit), Soul (Father), and Body (Son) of One Divinity. We are spirit, soul, and body of one person.

Jesus was the prospon (G4383) of God manifested in the flesh.
 
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PneumaPsucheSoma said:
How arrogant of man to reduce God to a triplicate in man's own image as "persons".

Just because you and others infer F/S/HS to each be in man's image doesn't make it truth.

We are made in God's image. He is Spirit (Holy Spirit), Soul (Father), and Body (Son) of One Divinity. We are spirit, soul, and body of one person.

Jesus was the prospon (G4383) of God manifested in the flesh.
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TYPICAL ZONE CLONE ATTITUDE :p:p:p
 
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TYPICAL ZONE CLONE ATTITUDE :p:p:p
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Ummm... Zone doesn't agree with me about the Godhead.

She's quite an astute purveyor of eschatological truth according to the Word, though, if you're referring to her gallant stand against Dispy perversion of the redemption plan, etc.
 
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PneumaPsucheSoma said:
How arrogant of man to reduce God to a triplicate in man's own image as "persons".

Just because you and others infer F/S/HS to each be in man's image doesn't make it truth.

We are made in God's image. He is Spirit (Holy Spirit), Soul (Father), and Body (Son) of One Divinity. We are spirit, soul, and body of one person.

Jesus was the prospon (G4383) of God manifested in the flesh.
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WE, according to the Bible, (Basic Information Before Learning Education) that don't come to the realization that this has NOTHING, to do with your FAMILY or My FAMILY, BUT RATHER EVERYBODIES FAMILY, that has been Defiled,WELL you wil have to be taught just exactley that; On The Lord's Day of Reckoning. (period for EMPHESIS)

Forever in Christ :)
 
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I believe to be non biased in my approach to the Bible,seeing I did not let anyone shape a belief in my head before reading the Bible,to give me a perspective about it beforehand,so I would have to take it by what it said with no other input,which if there was input,it would have to be exactly what the Bible said with no doubts,and if doubts,I would read the Bible to make sure it is right,and would not believe it was right until it was clear,which the Bible is clear but input beforehand that is wrong can give people a faulty foundation,in which they try to fit scripture in to that faulty foundation.

The thing I get from the Bible is there is no trinity,but one God who is a Holy Spirit.

One God who is a Holy Spirit,and that is it,and that is why the Spirit moved upon the face of the deep in Genesis,for God is a Spirit.

When God created mankind He took on the title of Father to represent His parental role in their life to those that follow Him,and He is the Father of spirits to all people.

The Son is the man Christ Jesus,the human body that God manifest all His attributes to.

So Father,Son,and Holy Spirit,are not 3 persons,but the 3 relationships that God has with His children designated by titles.

Father-title for the parent of the saints.

Son-God's visible relationship to the saints.

Holy Spirit-God's invisible relationship to the saints.

But the same God who did it all with no distinction of persons,for there is only one God a Holy Spirit,and it is the Spirit that started the creation in Genesis,and it is the Spirit that caused the conception of Jesus in the womb of Mary,and it is the Spirit that dwells in the saints,because there is only one God a Holy Spirit,and Father is a title,and Son is the man Christ Jesus,who has the fulness of God's attributes,so the man Christ Jesus is the personal human body of God,and the visible relationship that God will have with His saints for eternity,for the throne in heaven is the throne of God and the Lamb.

The Bible testifies that Jesus is the name of the Father,Son,and Holy Spirit,and it is Jesus who created all things,came in flesh,and dwells in the saints,for Jesus is God the Holy Spirit showing a visible manifestation of Himself,and revealing a higher name than Jehovah for the benefit of mankind,for Jehovah means physical deliverance,and Jesus means spiritual deliverance,and the Bible says that Jesus dwells in the light that no man can approach unto,and no man can see Jesus and no man will ever see Jesus,for Jesus is the invisible God and an omnipresent Spirit because He is Jehovah.

The right hand of God simply means that God exalted the man Christ Jesus to exercise the throne of power for a certain period of time,because He must reign until His enemies are conquered,and the Bible says the man Christ Jesus is our Mediator.

Let us make man in our image simply means that God had the plan in the beginning to manifest all His attributes to the man Christ Jesus in the future,hence God manifest in flesh,and God created Adam in the image that He would show up in the future,so the Let us make man in our image is a prophetic statement to coming Son of God and the Us is God and the man Christ Jesus.
And even though the Son,the man Christ Jesus,was not born until the future,He can still be considered to be in the beginning,just like the Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world,but did not happen until 4000 years later,but was considered slain in the beginning,because God calls things that have not yet happened as though they already happened,because it will surely come to pass in the future with no hindrances.

And anything else that gives people the impression of a trinity can be explained with the greatest of ease by those who do not let other people influence their thinking before they get to see what the Bible truly says.
 
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Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you. ( Proverbs 1:23 )

And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. ( John 14:16-17 )

He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
(But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified. ) ( John 7:38-39 )

Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
( John 16:13-14 )

As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever. ( Isaiah 59:21 )

If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him? ( Luke 11:13 )

But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life. ( John 4:14 )

And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them. ( Ezekiel 36:27 )

That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. ( Galatians 3:14 )

But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. ( 1 John 2:27 )

For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
( Romans 14:17 )

Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God. ( Romans 8:26-27 )

Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. ( 1 Corinthians 2:12 )

For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. ( Romans 8:15 )
 
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WE, according to the Bible, (Basic Information Before Learning Education) that don't come to the realization that this has NOTHING, to do with your FAMILY or My FAMILY, BUT RATHER EVERYBODIES FAMILY, that has been Defiled,WELL you wil have to be taught just exactley that; On The Lord's Day of Reckoning. (period for EMPHESIS)

Forever in Christ :)
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I'm familiar with the Serpent Seed myth. No thanks, Arnold Murray.
 
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Like i said above, another Zone Clone :D
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So... You don't agree with the teachings of Shepherd's Chapel? I, unlike others, don't want to wrongly presume what you believe.

Do you agree with all/part of the teachings regarding Serpent Seed?
 
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And anything else that gives people the impression of a trinity can be explained with the greatest of ease
by those who do not let other people influence their thinking before they get to see what the Bible truly says.
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No one influences my mind re: the Triune Godhead.

It is just so blatantly obvious (to me) in the Scriptures (100 or so verses) most especially concerning Jesus Christ.

Blatantly obvious (to me) ... Blatantly obvious when God's Spirit (in me) makes it so.

Do you have the Holy Spirit dwelling in you?
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I believe the Holy Spirit is God, and I believe God has feelings.
 
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