Paul, an Apostle, not of men...

[Ramon]

Gal 1:1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead
Gal 1:2 And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:
Gal 1:3 Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,
Gal 1:4 Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:
Gal 1:5 To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Gal 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Gal 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

Gal 1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
Gal 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Gal 1:13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:
Gal 1:14 And profited in the Jews' religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers.

Gal 1:15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,

Gal 1:16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:
Gal 1:17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.
Gal 1:18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days.
Gal 1:19 But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother.

Gal 1:20 Now the things which I write unto you, behold, before God, I lie not.
Gal 1:21 Afterwards I came into the regions of Syria and Cilicia;
Gal 1:22 And was unknown by face unto the churches of Judaea which were in Christ:
Gal 1:23 But they had heard only, That he which persecuted us in times past now preacheth the faith which once he destroyed.
Gal 1:24 And they glorified God in me.

 

[resurrection33]

I think Paul was as human as any of us.

 

[NiceneChristian]

This is a very interesting thing that St Paul writes here, its as though when he writes in Gal 1:8, "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed." Its as though he is speaking to us today, because there are many Christian Churches and people today who preach a different Gospel and a different Jesus - its not the same Jesus, its a Jesus that they have created with their own intellects.Its a Jesus of selfishness and self-worship, a Jesus of New Age religion, a Jesus of man's making and understanding. This is not the Jesus of the original Church, this is not the Jesus of the apostolic Fathers and Saints, this is not the Jesus as He was spoken of by the writings of the Fathers of the Church.

This is not the Jesus as was taught us by the 7 Ecumenical Councils of Nicea. This is not the real Jesus but a creation of man, an idol, a false Christ. Something which people have created because they have used Sola Scriptura to understand the Bible, being puffed up by their fleshly minds thinking that they can understand everything they are reading therein. Sola Scriptura is a heresy of Christian Scholasticism, it has ruined Christianity. There are over 41,000 Christian denominations because of Martin Luthers' teachings on the "5 Sola's". These are heresies, and teachings of a different Gospel, it is not the Gospel as was taught by Paul and the early Church, it is a creation of the mind of man.

Nowhere in history was Sola Scriptura taught except by Martin Luther in 1517, and this is what caused widespread apostasy and schism in Christianity.

 

[AnandaHya]

mmm so the gaunlet has been thrown down. lets see if the discussion says civil without any ad hominem attacks............

 

[NiceneChristian]

mmm so the gaunlet has been thrown down. lets see if the discussion says civil without any ad hominem attacks............

I was not attacking any specific person..

I'm sorry if I offend anyone, but my conquistador leader (God) urged me to do so:


[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQi_Vn1-cFw[/video]

 

[Cobus]

I think Paul was as human as any of us.

I think SAUL was as human as any of us, but I KNOW PAUL was as Jesus as we aught to be!
Every person that God gives REBIRTH is as much glorified as Jesus!
Saul was human, Paul was reborn of God with the Chrsit Jesus Spirit filling him!

Saul was a sinning, persocuting the Truth bad man (human) and Paul was a Truth preaching Holy Spirit glorified, man (reborn from God) (human? I would say holy human)

The difference between a human, and a holy human, is .... Christ Jesus. The human does not have the Holy Spirit of God RESIDING in him, and the holy man is a holy man becasue the Holy Spirit REMAINS in him. And only the Holy Spirit can make HOLY!

Human- human spirit
Holy human - God's Spirit!

 

[AnandaHya]

I think SAUL was as human as any of us, but I KNOW PAUL was as Jesus as we aught to be!
Every person that God gives REBIRTH is as much glorified as Jesus!
Saul was human, Paul was reborn of God with the Chrsit Jesus Spirit filling him!

Saul was a sinning, persocuting the Truth bad man (human) and Paul was a Truth preaching Holy Spirit glorified, man (reborn from God) (human? I would say holy human)

The difference between a human, and a holy human, is .... Christ Jesus. The human does not have the Holy Spirit of God RESIDING in him, and the holy man is a holy man becasue the Holy Spirit REMAINS in him. And only the Holy Spirit can make HOLY!

Human- human spirit
Holy human - God's Spirit!

You know I've been praying about you Cobus trying to figure out some things.


You know that people still have THEIR spirit and the HOLY Spirit is SEPERATE then the other person's NEW spirit don't you?

kind of like how you get a NEW name when you get adopted but you are not YOUR adopted Dad even though you bear His name?

here are the Bible verses you might want to reread.....

Romans 8
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. 15 For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, “Abba, Father.” 16 The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, 17 and if children, then heirs—heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him, that we may also be glorified together.


did you notice there are TWO that bears witness that we are children of God? the SPIRIT Himself and OUR spirits? We get NEW spirits but we do not become mediums or vessels without our own spirit that is unique and DIFFERENT from God's HOLY Spirit.

Can you call out "Abba, Father" and ask for God's help to be the person HE means for you to be?

or do you still feel unworthy and would rather work for it?

 

[triplet347]

I'm curious to know how many of you know who Saul was. What background information do you know about Saul?

 

[pickles]

Gal 1:1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead
Gal 1:2 And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:
Gal 1:3 Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,
Gal 1:4 Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:
Gal 1:5 To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Gal 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Gal 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

Gal 1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
Gal 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Gal 1:13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:
Gal 1:14 And profited in the Jews' religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers.

Gal 1:15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,

Gal 1:16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:
Gal 1:17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.
Gal 1:18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days.
Gal 1:19 But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother.

Gal 1:20 Now the things which I write unto you, behold, before God, I lie not.
Gal 1:21 Afterwards I came into the regions of Syria and Cilicia;
Gal 1:22 And was unknown by face unto the churches of Judaea which were in Christ:
Gal 1:23 But they had heard only, That he which persecuted us in times past now preacheth the faith which once he destroyed.
Gal 1:24 And they glorified God in me.

It seems Paul is simply saying that he did not come by the words of men or the makings of men in the witness he gives, but is what he is and does , compleatly by Jesus.

Good scripture Ramon.

God bless.
pickles