Is the United States of America in Bible prophesy?

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The United States of America is never explicitly mentioned in the Bible. In regard to the end times, the only nation the Bible seems to be concerned with, specifically, is Israel. Revelation does not mention any countries or nations, other than Israel (Revelation 7:4 ; 21:12 ). It mentions Babylon (Revelation 14:8; 16:19; 17:5; 18:2,10,21), but beyond that, it does not name specific places. Bible scholars debate whether this refers to a literal city of Babylon or whether Babylon is being used symbolically. Again, Israel is the focus of end-times Bible prophecy.

Why is the United States of America never mentioned in Bible prophecy? This could be for several reasons: (1) Perhaps the United States does not play an important role in the end times. (2) Perhaps the United States does not exist any more once the end times begin. (3) Perhaps the United States is included with all the other nations that reject God in the end times (Revelation 10:11 ; 11:18; 12:5; 14:8; 15:4; 16:19; 17:15; 18:3,23; 19:15). Option (3) is the most likely answer. The United States of America is the biggest supporter of Israel in the world today. This might not always be the case.
 
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timothy10 said:
The United States of America is never explicitly mentioned in the Bible. In regard to the end times, the only nation the Bible seems to be concerned with, specifically, is Israel. Revelation does not mention any countries or nations, other than Israel (Revelation 7:4 ; 21:12 ). It mentions Babylon (Revelation 14:8; 16:19; 17:5; 18:2,10,21), but beyond that, it does not name specific places. Bible scholars debate whether this refers to a literal city of Babylon or whether Babylon is being used symbolically. Again, Israel is the focus of end-times Bible prophecy.

Why is the United States of America never mentioned in Bible prophecy? This could be for several reasons: (1) Perhaps the United States does not play an important role in the end times. (2) Perhaps the United States does not exist any more once the end times begin. (3) Perhaps the United States is included with all the other nations that reject God in the end times (Revelation 10:11 ; 11:18; 12:5; 14:8; 15:4; 16:19; 17:15; 18:3,23; 19:15). Option (3) is the most likely answer. The United States of America is the biggest supporter of Israel in the world today. This might not always be the case.
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Hi Timothy10; We are to rightly divide The Word of God. The whole Bible is not adressed to everyone, except of course in Christ, but i'm reffering to our instructions of the final generation and where you are geographicly located. Also this is about the evidence of physical Israel, not the spiritual Israel which is what we attain in and through Christ.

The Bible is adressed to 3 specific peoples of God, The Jews from the Land of Judeah, The Fig-tree in which the rest of The House of Israel would be born through, the 12 Paitriachal fathers of Isreal.

When Isreal was freed from Egypt through Moses, they did not receive their 1st land blessings until they spent 40 years in the wilderness, learning Gods will and instructions; as well, they did not attempt to claim these land blessings, until after the passing over of Jacob, which at that time was The Law 10 Commandments) added to the Ark of the Covenant made in Love, the SAME Covenant that Ghrist confirmed; Love God & Love your neighbour (if possible/ hdte the evil intentions)

With this completed, it was at this time that the 12 Paitriarcal fathers went forth to claim their first land blessings that were promised to Abraham at the begining of The Covenant made in Love (GOD) and received at the time of Jacobs or Isreals depature.

These 1st land blessings, that are located in the middle east, are reffered to in the Bible as the seed of Jacob, as Jacob was the one who wrestled with the angel, and when God re-named Jacob Israel, He was changing his name from: Jacob( surplanter/heelgrabber) to Israel ( The prince in whom YAH (I AM) shall Prevail).

I think if you look there now, you can see why they are reffered to as Gods fighting tribe :eek: the persecution they are enduring, for freedom to me, is incredible to say the least.

But Gods Plan and blessings do not stop there; or God would be a liar when He said that; FIRST the Gospel must go forth and be published in ALL Nations ( this includes languages) HEY! this is already done :cool:

The Lands of Jacobs (Isreals) blessings, were prophosied through Jacob, as they didn't receive them for quite some time. Joseph had asked God for a double blessing, :eek: and God didn't want to start the jealousy all afresh, with the 12 fathers, So how God did this, so it was deemed fair, through the eyes of the brothers; was that Joseph himself did not receive a land inheiritance, but rather prophesied that Josephs 2 childern, Israels grandchildren, that were also present at the time of land prophesies, received the double porotion, and they are Ephriam and Mannasah.

You can look this up in Genisis CH: 48; Mannasah is prophosied to become the Super power of Super powers of the end times.

Ephriam is prophisied to become a great commonwealth of lands.

Its pretty easy to follow, just ask yourself; who was the Super power Nation, prior to USA? and prior that? and etc... you will also find a decreasing amount of fresh water, the further back you go.

After all, this is about saving as many souls as possible, and it is NOW, that we are here as the multitude of the sands of the beach and of the stars above, that was promised to Abraham, a Looooong time ago :D

The adoption of Gentile nations; which were ALL Gentile nations, prior to the 12 Paitriacal fathers, moving forward to claim them (with the Covenant & The Law 10 Com.) carried on after these original adoptions of lands, known as the seed of Jacob.Gods prince would prevail, remember) and in a simplistic sense, were intoducing these Gentile nations, who were ignorant to the fact, that IT IS The God of Israel, that provides your physical needs in sustaining yourselfs (food/water/shelter) and that IT IS HIM, that you are ALWAYS give thanks to; NOT some other God or especially MAN :eek:

To follow all the human details of this history is an immense undertaking; But it is not so difficult if you look at it from the Eagles perspective; through Our Fathers Eyes.

Begining with an Oath of 7 wells to Abraham, God has simply been moving the 10 tribes of Israel northbound, from 7 wells of water, in a place where water is scarce; to each next larger body of water, northbound, ultimately to the 7 Great Lakes, so that there is enough to provide for ALL His children, physicaly speaking, as water is life.

So; the land of Judeah, along with the adopted nations of Jacob's seed, and the land prophisies to Ephriam & Mannasah are what entails the physical House of Israel.

This is also finished :cool:

This adoption of Nations was completed at the end of WW2, and at this time, is no longer about nations; rather it is the time of; And whom so ever will; accept that they themselves, If they want to be saved from the wrath of God to come, Must accept Jesus the Christ/Yashua Messiah, as their one and only mediator to The Father.

And then IF you do; Never forget to step into the Holy of Holies and talk to Him, for though God can do everything; the one thing He won't do is force someone to Love Him; else it would be insincere. True Love must come from within the being of oneself.

So to be respectful of Christs sacrifice for ALL, or at least to whom so ever will; Is to take the time to cleanse yourself in the Lords Prayer; Enter into The holy of Holies and sincerely let Him know you Love Him; or ask Him for understanding of How to Love Him sincerely.

Christ gave his life on the cross, so that WE, being the sinners that we ALL are, IF we cleanse ourselves and are guenuinly sincere, have that Privilage that Only the High Preist of The Old Testament had, to enter through the veil, and into The Holy of Holies, to speak yourself, to The Father of Lights Himself.

That way you don't put your trust into some mans beleif, Gods promises are true, that are wrtten through Moses and The Prophets; Confirmed and Affirmed through Christ and The Apostles.

Sorry about the length of the post; hope it helps you. And for the sake of rebuke, i must mention that, Gods Children, are in EVERY NATION at this time, and we know what qualifies them; Trust in GOD through CHRIST, and taking the time to visit Him in prayer.

Forever in Christ :)
 
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timothy10 said:
The United States of America is never explicitly mentioned in the Bible. In regard to the end times, the only nation the Bible seems to be concerned with, specifically, is Israel. Revelation does not mention any countries or nations, other than Israel (Revelation 7:4 ; 21:12 ). It mentions Babylon (Revelation 14:8; 16:19; 17:5; 18:2,10,21), but beyond that, it does not name specific places. Bible scholars debate whether this refers to a literal city of Babylon or whether Babylon is being used symbolically. Again, Israel is the focus of end-times Bible prophecy.

Why is the United States of America never mentioned in Bible prophecy? This could be for several reasons: (1) Perhaps the United States does not play an important role in the end times. (2) Perhaps the United States does not exist any more once the end times begin. (3) Perhaps the United States is included with all the other nations that reject God in the end times (Revelation 10:11 ; 11:18; 12:5; 14:8; 15:4; 16:19; 17:15; 18:3,23; 19:15). Option (3) is the most likely answer. The United States of America is the biggest supporter of Israel in the world today. This might not always be the case.
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Babylon

wealth, luxury, and wickedness<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<sounds like??
 
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Oh good. I thought I was the only one who thought that. :) I still love my country though.
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Me too! Would rather be here than lots of places. God have mercy. Stop pushing God out in Jesus!
 
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timothy10 said:
The United States of America is never explicitly mentioned in the Bible. In regard to the end times, the only nation the Bible seems to be concerned with, specifically, is Israel. Revelation does not mention any countries or nations, other than Israel (Revelation 7:4 ; 21:12 ). It mentions Babylon (Revelation 14:8; 16:19; 17:5; 18:2,10,21), but beyond that, it does not name specific places. Bible scholars debate whether this refers to a literal city of Babylon or whether Babylon is being used symbolically. Again, Israel is the focus of end-times Bible prophecy.

Why is the United States of America never mentioned in Bible prophecy? This could be for several reasons: (1) Perhaps the United States does not play an important role in the end times. (2) Perhaps the United States does not exist any more once the end times begin. (3) Perhaps the United States is included with all the other nations that reject God in the end times (Revelation 10:11 ; 11:18; 12:5; 14:8; 15:4; 16:19; 17:15; 18:3,23; 19:15). Option (3) is the most likely answer. The United States of America is the biggest supporter of Israel in the world today. This might not always be the case.
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Hey its good you wonder this and in fact America is in the bible. It is also known as "Mystery Babylon", the Prophet saw an future nation just as Babylon with the power to crush all nations at will. It also stole the wealth of all nations as ancient Babylon did, America is without a doubt in the bible. A nation such as this would no way be brought up by God, the greatest nation to ever rule and sadly with the most wicked. Read my thread called "Nuclear Fire" because by nuclear fire it shall pass away. If you read Habakkuk there is not one thing Babylon did that America did not do if not greater.
 
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You stated "The United States of America is the biggest supporter of Israel in the world today." Yes they support Israel, just not the Israel of God, the children of Abraham. The people who the world thinks is Abraham's seed is truly not indeed, for the Lord himself said bastards shall dwell in Ashdod, Zechariah 9:6"And a bastard shall dwell in Ashdod, and I will cut off the pride of the Philistines." If Satan can as an angel of light, for no marvel even devils can come as his God's chosen seed and deceive the world. Do not believe every word for Satan still is ruler and his lies spread forth like a serpents venom.
 
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NO... the USA is not mentioned in Bible prophecy.
 
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timothy10 said:
The United States of America is never explicitly mentioned in the Bible. In regard to the end times, the only nation the Bible seems to be concerned with, specifically, is Israel. Revelation does not mention any countries or nations, other than Israel (Revelation 7:4 ; 21:12 ). It mentions Babylon (Revelation 14:8; 16:19; 17:5; 18:2,10,21), but beyond that, it does not name specific places. Bible scholars debate whether this refers to a literal city of Babylon or whether Babylon is being used symbolically. Again, Israel is the focus of end-times Bible prophecy.

Why is the United States of America never mentioned in Bible prophecy? This could be for several reasons: (1) Perhaps the United States does not play an important role in the end times. (2) Perhaps the United States does not exist any more once the end times begin. (3) Perhaps the United States is included with all the other nations that reject God in the end times (Revelation 10:11 ; 11:18; 12:5; 14:8; 15:4; 16:19; 17:15; 18:3,23; 19:15). Option (3) is the most likely answer. The United States of America is the biggest supporter of Israel in the world today. This might not always be the case.
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I suspect biblical prophecy applies to each generation in the Lord’s mysterious way.
 
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Slepsog4 said:
NO... the USA is not mentioned in Bible prophecy.
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Not as such, USA, but it certainly IS the land of milk and honey, as promised by Our Father to Abraham's seed. The land blessing of Mannasah (forgetful) is the USA. And the Physical Alter, are those 7 Greats Lakes right smack dab in the middle of 2 Brothers land blessings, Mannasah (forgetful) and a part of Ephriam (land of unclean lips)

And that physical Alter has provided MUCH physical food and wealth, to feed ALL of Gods children, ALL around the world :)

Forever in Christ :)
 
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Babylon

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Hi Linda; i don't think its just the USA that is Babylon, its a worlwide condition at this time. Its all of the leaders, getting an ego about themselves, and claiming to mans credit, All of the fascinating things in existance right now and how WE did it.

When the fact of the matter is, That ALL things and this includes education, belong to God, and God distributes these gifts to whomsoever He chooses, to further HIS WILL.

When we are to Praise God always and for all things, before we testify of how God used us with a paticular gift, to accomplish His Will through us; Well its a pretty sick situation when in the Country that i live in, has persecuted me greatly, for Praising Our Father in and through Christ.

Canada's #1 rule, when out in public, NO talking religion, politics, and apparently God has been added to this; in the name of religion, that gives God a real Bad name, because of their Ignorance.

Though they build their tower of Babel (space station) right into heaven, in this generation; I still take it as an Insult, and I AM going to knock it down.
( not word for word; but the meaning is there.) Or in another place where its says, though they build their nest among the stars etc...

Forever in Christ :)
 
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The 2nd beast in Revelation 13 causes all to worship the 1st beast and to receive a mark. A beast in the Bible is symbolic for a nation
 
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I believe America will be one of the kingdoms of the Beast. America is not specifically mentioned in the Bible. But I believe it is too large and important not to be part of what the Beast is does to the World.
 
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jonathanbchristian said:
I believe America will be one of the kingdoms of the Beast. America is not specifically mentioned in the Bible. But I believe it is too large and important not to be part of what the Beast is does to the World.
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Gonna have to call you on this one. America is the world's last line of defense in a global conspiracy to corrupt the world's food supply, to remove all guns from every house in the world. If the USA falls the world is gonna be taken over and controled by a one world tyranical antichrist.

Example search out The United States of America citzen petition. Also The NRA (bible believing, gun loving people in america) our the only ones standing against the U.N. the vote has been vetoed twice now only opposed by united states senators and NRA advocates. No, i do not own a gun, no i am not a member of the NRA. However I did sign the citzen petition because I think and believe: The Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States of America is the best stand for freedom in the world today. And I believe this is my duty as a american and a patroit to support my country.
 
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The USA is most certainly NOT the land of milk and honey promised to Abraham's seed. That land was entered into by Joshua and those who survived the wilderness after being freed from Egypt under Moses.
 
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Slepsog4 said:
The USA is most certainly NOT the land of milk and honey promised to Abraham's seed. That land was entered into by Joshua and those who survived the wilderness after being freed from Egypt under Moses.
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Never said america was the land of milk and honey friend. That does not make america any less important in this age of man.
 
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I cannot claim much understanding, but from what I have read of revelations it is still centered in Isreal and the surrounding areas.
My understanding of mystery babylon its sounds like it is centered in egypt and the surrounding areas.
I know some will disagree, but it often strikes me a prideful to think that our nation ( U.S.) and many others are mentioned in revaltions in any major way.
Simply because all has always centered in Isreal and the surrounding areas, and will continue to.
That does not mean we will not be playing some role in this, simply we are not the focus.
To speak any other way seems to add to revelations, so I choose to look to the facts rather than add to them. :)
But Im sure Ill have my moments questioning it all as well and learning more. :)

in Jesus, God bless.
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Let's spin the question around.

If the Bible, written in ancient times, had mentioned the United States of America BY NAME, then we would have incontrovertible evidence that the Bible was true and there would be no atheists in the world (huzzah!).

How else but via divine prophesy could the authors of the Bible have predicted the creation of a country tens of hundreds of years in their future?

Sadly, however, the USA (nor any other modern-day countries, for that matter) are not name-checked. Not directly, at least.
 
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keshka said:
Let's spin the question around.

If the Bible, written in ancient times, had mentioned the United States of America BY NAME, then we would have incontrovertible evidence that the Bible was true and there would be no atheists in the world (huzzah!).

How else but via divine prophesy could the authors of the Bible have predicted the creation of a country tens of hundreds of years in their future?

Sadly, however, the USA (nor any other modern-day countries, for that matter) are not name-checked. Not directly, at least.
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Your evidence is this: Global de-weaponization, natrual food laws, inficted vacines, and many more things. The RFID chip for starters. Read what happened to the Amish in Michigan. Thanks are spinning out of control very fast. So you had better get ready. Repent, and believe the Gospel for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
 
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Slepsog4 said:
The USA is most certainly NOT the land of milk and honey promised to Abraham's seed. That land was entered into by Joshua and those who survived the wilderness after being freed from Egypt under Moses.
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I'll have to agree that America is not that land of milk and honey promised to Abraham's seed. But it is by far the most fertile area in the world, and is quite a bit more abundant with wildlife than Israel or anywhere in the middle east is for that matter.
 
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