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zone

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Two parts lemon .....one part olive oil (roughly) ....... and a heavy sprinkle of oregano in the mix. Baste while BBQ'ing (ya can't over baste with this mix). Be sure to tune in for more "Feasts from Fester" ........ coming to a bookstore near you soon :eek:
LOL Fes!
he-e-e-e-yyy.....
potluck at mikey's later?
you bring everything?
hehe
 

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Btw...didn't know this became the Heavenly Recipes forum :) it's ok, though! I don't mind a bit :D
 

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What's with all the random posts in here, Fence? We were talking about how to make a chicken and you come parading in saying "Jesus is Lord!" not that he isn't, but kinda random y'know?
 

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Nevertheless, Jesus is Lord and I'm so glad He is :)
 

lil_christian

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Amen...so glad to see we're agreeing on something, too :) :D:D
 
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AnandaHya

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what's wrong with Wesley?

I attend a Methodist church and I think he's the founder of that denomination. Have to admit I haven't studied much of his writings though.

haven't located any good websites with sermons and such... thanks for reminding me I was going to do a search lol :)
 

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Wesley was a great evangelist....wrote plenty of powerful hymns
 
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AnandaHya

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What's with all the random posts in here, Fence? We were talking about how to make a chicken and you come parading in saying "Jesus is Lord!" not that he isn't, but kinda random y'know?
Fencepost is our resident online Mime. Just in case no one has informed you of it yet. that was supposed to be sign languaged out to you. ;)

here are some videos of Hymns in sign language ;)

Hymns - American Sign Language (ASL) - LDS Church Music

http://www.lessontutor.com/asl_away_demo_no_print.pdf

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZn8DDF1vaM[/video]

Love you Fence ;) and YES JESUS IS LORD! :)
 
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Originally Posted by zone

hi lil
*sigh*
some here will find one automatically suspect for referencing scripture too much: apparently it means one isn't hearing from the Spirit; walking in the Spirit; 100% obedient to the Lord; or possibly not saved, being an idolator who worships the dead letter....i think that's how it goes:rolleyes:


remember too: "apparently no intelligent people are christians" or something like that.
so try not to flaunt any "head knowledge"....i think that means you'd have a religious spirit, possibly even Jezebel.

lol.
love zone.


With much patience, as much as the Lord has given me, I have borne it. Now, let the Lord be my judge, and let him judge me, but the mess you have been putting in has been tolerated too long. It was for your sake, not for mine, nor for another's sake. But when I see this wickedness causing offense to others, and I have seen it, and the Lord is witness with me, there is a limit. Now, in front of everyone, let's call this into the open, so that no one can glory privately.

If the Lord will even permit you to speak in his name again, I am a liar. Yet, I pray he gives you room to repent, before that time. And let everyone here bear it as a witness then. I will bear the shame for it. Let me be a liar, and let God be true. It has been tolerated too long. We will see, as every eye will see, when every tongue will confess it.

If you continue in this way, let everyone witness it, you will not continue in it for long.

Indeed, the Lord is merciful, he knows all things, he bears all things. Perhaps he will grant you time to repent of it.

I will not mention this again either. Mark today as a witness.

Well now Ramon ....... doesn't this beat all ? If we disagree with Ramon's hellfire, brimstone and gospel of condemnation, we are in need of repenting ? Get a grip Ramon. You are not a prophet. You are not God's spokesperson. The best you can be is a sinner saved by the grace of God ...... which is tons better than any of us deserve. One of these days you just might find yourself resting in the assurances of Christ's promise to us who believe and trust in Him. Then and only then will you happily dispose of the emotional experientialism that today rules your being.
 
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nice try.
you're from Wesley's House (or maybe weirdo Finney's) where you super-status Romans 8ers NO LONGER SIN BUT MAKE MISTAKES.

YOU TOLD COBUS WE WILL MAKE MISTAKES, BUT CAN REPENT.

I CALLED YOU OUT ON YOUR PERFECTIONIST HERESY, by insisting that you call SIN WHAT IT IS.
not mistakes.

and you try to turn the tables on me.

i see your kind every day.

your dishonesty in this post alone is evidence enough you sin, and sin much.
Perfection? I said no such thing. Dishonesty? Where? However, you don't seem to mind trying to put words in people mouths and accuse people of things that they are not guilty of.

I never accused you of being an antinomian. I simply said I sense one. Given your recent posts, the evidence appears to be piling up.

Anyways, I'm not going to give in to your provocations and arguing any further. I sincerely hope that one day you are able to surrender whatever it is that has made you so inflametory and bitter to the Lord that you may experience true freedom in your salvation.
 
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zone

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what's wrong with Wesley?

I attend a Methodist church and I think he's the founder of that denomination. Have to admit I haven't studied much of his writings though.

haven't located any good websites with sermons and such... thanks for reminding me I was going to do a search lol :)
Holiness movement

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The holiness movement refers to a set of beliefs and practices emerging from the Methodist Christian church in the mid 19th century. The movement is distinguished by its emphasis on John Wesley's doctrine of "Christian perfection" - the belief that it is possible to live free of voluntary sin - and particularly by the belief that this may be accomplished instantaneously through a second work of grace.

Holiness movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Second work of grace

John Wesley, the founder of the Methodist movement, taught that there were two distinct phases in the Christian experience.[1] During the first phase, conversion, the believer received forgiveness and became a Christian. During the second phase, sanctification, the believer was purified and made holy. Wesley taught both that sanctification could be an instantaneous experience,[2] and that it could be a gradual process.[3][4]

After Wesley's death, mainstream Methodism emphasized sanctification as a gradual experience, and over time it became less prominent in Methodist teaching. The Holiness Movement emerged in the 1860s in the USA with the desire to re-emphasize Wesley's sanctification doctrine.[5] Holiness preachers taught that sanctification was an instantaneous experience.

Later, the Pentecostal Movement emerged from the Holiness Movement,[5] teaching that the believer could, in addition to becoming sanctified, receive power from God and the Gifts of the Holy Spirit. In early Pentecostal thought this was sometimes considered to be a third work of grace[6] but over time it has more gradually been seen as the major component of the second experience.

The Holiness Movement

In the Holiness movement, the second work of grace is considered to be a cleansing from the tendency to commit sin, an experience called entire sanctification which leads to Christian perfection.

Pentecostalism

In Pentecostalism, believers are encouraged to seek the Baptism with the holy spirit. In most Pentecostal churches, the outward evidence of this experience is the manifestation of the Gifts of the Holy Spirit, most particular including the Gift of tongues.[7]

Second work of grace - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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AnandaHya

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don't know about the Kirk Franklin part, I just googled and went through a handfull of movies till I found one I liked.

the Holiness movement is a splinter group of Wesley. there are splinter groups from other denominations too. they are normally referred to as cults. though I have listened to some people who have been labelled Holiness preachers and like their sermons. most Methodist church teach the gradual process of sanctification for the most part but they might say that God can do what He wishes.

Don't see how you can teach "instantaneous" sanctification, doesn't God just do that and BOOM its done, no talking and learning but completely a work by God? if you have to teach it how then is it "instantaneous"?

Just because people twist and grow their thorns on another's words does not make the original branch corrupt. I think God will cut and burn the necessary limbs.

People twist and try and misuse God's words all the time. I'm still searching some web sources for Wesley's work. lol got distracted by the kids signing gospel hymns lol....
 
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zone

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Perfection? I said no such thing. Dishonesty? Where? However, you don't seem to mind trying to put words in people mouths and accuse people of things that they are not guilty of.

I never accused you of being an antinomian. I simply said I sense one. Given your recent posts, the evidence appears to be piling up.

Anyways, I'm not going to give in to your provocations and arguing any further. I sincerely hope that one day you are able to surrender whatever it is that has made you so inflametory and bitter to the Lord that you may experience true freedom in your salvation.
dear, telling cobus we make mistakes when you know he is expecting to be sinless is dishonest.
and the Holiness crowd does enough of that around here.

oh...you simply said you SENSE an antinomian....in a post to me.

the softball. what's the diff?

i prefer people who just speak plainly, not making their rude remarks wrapped in holy lingo, k?

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i adore The Lord!

for you to play psychologist or prophet and believe you know my heart to the Lord is presumptuous and sinful.

unless it was just a mistake.

in any case, here's an olive branch








i forgive you
 
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