Preperation for the bridegroom

[LovingtheLord]

A girl called Blue Angel asked

"This has kinda been bothering me, this talk about the last days.
Because I don't know where I'll be... as in preparedness. And I'm still wondering if I'll have time to get married before anything starts getting really out of hand... " __________________
~*BlueAngel*~

I thought of the 10 virgins parable, i stumbled upon an article which explained the parable.

I did not notice until today that the 10 virgins were ALL Christians, the 10 virgin parable is a chilling parable indeed, they are all Christians 5 wise (who prepared) and 5 foolish virgins, at the start we learn there are 10 virgins at first they are all on the same level you cannot disgush which one is foolish and which one is not, at night all virgins reach burn out from their lamps (their spirits) but 5 wise virgins extra oil (Holy Spirit) which they use for thier oil lamps and leave with the bridegroom.

Are you preparing for Jesus's return?

14Blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter by the gates into the city.

We need to prepare, be sanctified and made to the likeness of our Lord Jesus Christ by the Holy Spirit.

While i was reading the 10 virgins article i remember this verse:

Revelation 2:17
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

Could the 10 virgins and this verse linked? most likely as Revelation talks about the end times and the parable has a similar theme-

Sanctification through the holy spirit and the word.

God bless you all hope your lamps are full and are filled with the Holy spirit.

 

[LovingtheLord]

days are getting dark, God Bless you all brothers, may he help you through the storm, in Jesus name, Amen.

 

[Bea22]

I like your post and think it's very true, however, I don't think we are the church of Pergamos ^, but some of those promises of earlier church ages are applicable, True, foolish virgins are the ones who ran out of oil so everyone should be making sure they know what the oil is if that is what distinguishes the wise from the foolish. You're right, it is the Holy Spirit.
It refers to the scripture of worshiping in spirit AND in truth. And the verse about His Words are spirit and they are truth.

God Bless

 

[WolfInOxHide]

Many do not see this. Yes, the virgins are all intending to be the bride.
However, let me suggest that the lamps and oil are not indicative of the Spirit, but rather:

The lamps are to reveal their path. Light is always revelation. Note how the revelation of Y'Shua begins with the menorah. "let your light so shine before men" means to reveal the good news that you have experienced.

The oil is the anointing. -the thing that some had not purchased.

The ones that had the oil did not share it because they cannot share the anointing with anyone who is not chosen. It is commanded. See Exodus 30 below.

Whether it is used for lamps or anointing, or whatever other purpose, oil is oil, spiritually.

Exodus 30:25--
And thou shalt make it an oil of holy ointment, an ointment compound after the art of the apothecary: it shall be an holy anointing oil. 26 And thou shalt anoint the tabernacle of the congregation therewith, and the ark of the testimony,
27 And the table and all his vessels, and the candlestick and his vessels, and the altar of incense,
28 And the altar of burnt offering with all his vessels, and the laver and his foot.
29 And thou shalt sanctify them, that they may be most holy: whatsoever toucheth them shall be holy.
30 And thou shalt anoint Aaron and his sons, and consecrate them, that they may minister unto me in the priest's office.
31 And thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel, saying, This shall be an holy anointing oil unto me throughout your generations.
32 Upon normal man's flesh shall it not be poured, neither shall ye make any other like it, after the composition of it: it is holy, and it shall be holy unto you.
33 Whosoever compoundeth any like it, or whosoever putteth any of it upon a stranger, shall even be cut off from his people.

Many pulpits suggest that light, fire, oil and countless other things represent the Spirit, but this is just because they are reading bible commentaries (like this one lol) instead of the bible.
For example, revelation doesn't tell you that the seven flames before the throne are the seven spirits in order to define Spirit as fire, but rather to explain a characteristic of the Spirit as being like "fire"
Spirit is already defined inherently by the original word "wind" or "breath"

Seek and find, ask and receive, knock and enter = courtyard, holy place, throne room. Peace!

 

[Abiding]

John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

1 John 2:27But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

theres the bible i wont make any comments

 

[NarrowRoadDisciple]

Lovingthelord, that is exactly how the Holy Spirit has been showing me what that parable means.
You can even see the same dynamic in other parables such as the parable of the talents. That one servant (yes a servant of the master, as we are servants of God) did not increase what God gave to him and instead hid it away. As a result his lot was cast with the unbelievers and his talent was given to the servant who increased his talents the most. More chilling is that he was cast into darkness where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth (symbolism of hell throughout the bible).

We are exhorted to examine ourselves to see if we are in the faith. Are we keeping oil in our lamps? And yes WolfInOxHide, the oil is symbolic of the Holy Spirit. Seek Him while He may still be found

 

[Bea22]

How do you get the anointing?

 

[WolfInOxHide]

Knowing the way, being led by the Spirit, and lighting the way, letting light shine, are two distinctly different things.

The Father anoints those who are found worthy in His eyes, the anointing is the privilege and empowerment of serving in ways above what you are normally capable of. The reason the gold and bronze items of the temple are anointed with olive oil, is to make them reflect light better. Lamps make light from the oil. You have to imagine a golden object, or a priests flesh, or a person's hair, or your bread being covered in olive oil. It glistens when coated. Not a sprinkle like some today suggest. The woman was accused of wasting oil on Y'Shua, a drop or two is not waste. The Spirit: breath, air. Fire "dwells" in the "air", you can feel it, it can affect you, but you cannot physically grab a handful of it. "fire" dwells in the Spirit, but is not the Spirit itself. The spiritual metaphors make compatible sense with each other the same way their physical representations do.
Confusion comes when they are randomly assigned meanings that are not compatible. Assigning definitions that are not compatible is in the true definition of the word, deception. Used against us in every way. Like the physical, the spiritual meaning of fire is hard to grasp. It reveals, it warms from a distance, burns when near, it consumes, it causes pain, refines, all of it's characteristics are reflective of having your spirit compared to YHWH's. Things that are Holy are not consumed in the fire. (burning bush, servants in the fiery furnace, etc.)
Can't just take mine or any other man's word for it. You must dwell on them yourself at length. When you find one gem, you buy the field and dig for the others.

I would say the oil, anointing, is indicative of having received the spirit, moreso than the spirit itself.

Peace.

 

[WolfInOxHide]

Not contradicting the message in the parable as given by OP, just want to demonstrate how there's MUCH more detail in it than most realize. Same goes throughout scripture, and the symbolism must be consistent from cover to cover, lest we be deceived by wavering interpretations.

 

[Bea22]

I would say the oil, anointing, is indicative of having received the spirit, moreso than the spirit itself.

Peace.

Interesting thought. I wonder about the fine line between the two too.

On the one hand, I see people anointed and doing great things, speaking in tongues, healing, shouting in the spirit. It is clear they have received some anointing on them.

On the other hand, I wonder if the Holy Spirit is within them, as I feel they would be walking in Spirit and in Truth if it were...

You know how some people can operate gifts and yet be doctrinally wrong? They do great things and yet are workers of iniquity.

And then I also wonder this.... because I know the anointing is something that goes with the Holy Spirit.... but is it proof enough of having received the Holy Spirit within?

What do you think?

 

[moment_of_faith]

LovingTheLord -- I think you are almost right .. Sorry to try and snatch the rug out from under you, but please hear me out, because you basically said it.

The 5 that had plenty of oil " Holy Spirit " are Christians .. When you accept Jesus he sends you the Holy Spirit --

The Other 5 were not Christians . They did not have the Holy Spirit.

 

[Shilo]

Acts 19:1-8
It happened that while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul passed through the upper country and came to Ephesus, and found some disciples.
2 He said to them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?” And they said to him, “No, we have not even heard whether there is a Holy Spirit.”
3 And he said, “Into what then were you baptized?” And they said, “Into John’s baptism.”
4 Paul said, “John baptized with the baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in Him who was coming after him, that is, in Jesus.
” 5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they began speaking with tongues and prophesying.
7 There were in all about twelve men.
8 And he entered the synagogue and continued speaking out boldly for three months, reasoning and persuading them about the kingdom of God.

 

[Shilo]

Matthew 25
Ten Virgins
25:1-4“Then the kingdom of heaven shall be likened to ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. 2 Now five of them were wise, and five were foolish. 3 Those who were foolish took their lamps and took no oil with them, 4 but the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
10 is the number of community so this is everyone who calls themselves a follower of Yesuha/ Jesus. Virgins people who live clean lives according to the word of god as they wait for his return2 Corinthians 11 .Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge; fools despise wisdom and instruction. 5 virgins Work hard to make themselves right before god and receive his approval. Correctly explains the word of truth2 Timothy 2:15. 5 virgins took no pleasure in understanding, Proverbs 18:2. Your word is a lamp to guide my feet and a light for my pathPsalm 119:105.For these commands are a lamp, this teaching is a light, and the corrections of discipline are the way to life, Proverbs 6:23. The more of GOD’s word you have in you the more light you have. The more light you have the more the holy Spirit can teach you. Then you will always have light. John 5:35 He was a burning and a shining light: and ye were willing for a season to rejoice in his light. 2 Samuel 22:29 For thou art my lamp, O LORD: and the LORD will lighten my darkness. Psalms 18:28 For thou wilt light my candle: the LORD my God will enlighten my darkness.



Matthew25:5. But while the bridegroom was delayed, they all slumbered and slept. The Virgins did not intended to fall asleep they were waiting for the LORD, but when his coming was delayed the weakness of the flesh took over and they all fell asleep.
Matthew 26:40-41Then he returned to his disciples and found them sleeping. Could you men not keep watch with me for one hour?" he asked Peter .Watch and pray so that you will not fall into temptation. The spirit is willing, but the body is weak."
“Matthew 25:6-8 And at midnight a cry was heard: ‘Behold, the bridegroom is coming; go out to meet him!’ 7 Then all those virgins arose and trimmed their lamps. 8 And the foolish said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out. All the Virgins heard the cry but the foolish who did not study to prepare themselves light was going out. Some Christians get spoon feed the word of God so they do not know if what they have learned is true.Matthew 13:25But while everyone was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went away. The foolish Virgins lack the wisdom ( word of GOD, GOD's word is Spirit)) to prepare for and again understanding in change or delays to the fulfillment of their hope.

Matthew 25:9-13 but the wise answered, saying, ‘No, lest there should not be enough for us and you, but go rather to those who sell, and buy for yourselves. but go rather to those who sell, and buy for yourselves.’ 10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the wedding; and the door was shut.11 “Afterward the other virgins came also, saying, ‘Lord, Lord, open to us!’ 12 But he answered and said, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, I do not know you.’13 “Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour in which the Son of Man is coming
If the word is in you will know the time to talk and the time to be quiet. The foolish Virgins went to buy at midnight what they should have been looking for and not sleeping. They went to merchants to buy the word of GOD.
John 9:4We must work the works of him who sent me while it is day; night is coming, when no one can work.Acts 8:20But Peter replied, "May your money be destroyed with you for thinking God's gift can be bought
Matthew 25:14-30
The Parable of the Talents
14 “For the kingdom of heaven is like a man traveling to a far country, who called his own servants and delivered his goods to them. 15 And to one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one, to each according to his ability and immediately he went on a journey. 1Corinthians 12:28 And in the church God has appointed first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then workers of miracles, also those having gifts of healing, those able to help others, those with gifts of administration, and those speaking in different kinds of tonguesach according to his own ability. God expects us to use everything he has given us to his glory Natural ability, Spiritual position, and possessions . He puts accountability on everyone. We all will be judge by are inactivity.

 

[WolfInOxHide]

What do you think?

With the exception of the original apostles and faith that soon afterward dwindled, I believe the real thing is yet to come, because in modern times, the real thing will make the news, be verified under intense scrutiny, and stop the whole world dead in it's tracks. One last chance revival before the return of Y'Shua.

The key revelation of a real miracle, is when well documented blind and lame people are healed in public in front of non-believers, rather than in a small congregation. If certain people are supposedly really doing these things in church or on TV, why are they not doing it in the streets in the physical presence of random people like Y'Shua did?

Imagine if a man with a prosthetic leg falls getting off a bus in the streets of New York city, and a humble average looking man walks up and restores His leg in front of thousands. Imagine if this is suddenly repeated in other major cities around the world in the span of a single day, and continues for a season.
Imagine if none of these servants are pharisees or sadducees (pope, pastors, Buddhist monks, Islamic extremists, etc.), and yet claim to come in the name of Y'Shua.
The scribes (media) will have a lot of questions, and a field day.
The story repeats itself. How else will the modern world stop and listen once and for all?
I believe this is hail and fire, mingled with blood, cast upon the earth.
Are we looking for a destructive second coming without a proper wake up call that is in the spirit and action of Y'Shua who we follow?
A different discussion, a little off topic, so I'll stop there.

 

[Bea22]

With the exception of the original apostles and faith that soon afterward dwindled, I believe the real thing is yet to come, because in modern times, the real thing will make the news, be verified under intense scrutiny, and stop the whole world dead in it's tracks. One last chance revival before the return of Y'Shua.

The key revelation of a real miracle, is when well documented blind and lame people are healed in public in front of non-believers, rather than in a small congregation. If certain people are supposedly really doing these things in church or on TV, why are they not doing it in the streets in the physical presence of random people like Y'Shua did?

Imagine if a man with a prosthetic leg falls getting off a bus in the streets of New York city, and a humble average looking man walks up and restores His leg in front of thousands. Imagine if this is suddenly repeated in other major cities around the world in the span of a single day, and continues for a season.
Imagine if none of these servants are pharisees or sadducees (pope, pastors, Buddhist monks, Islamic extremists, etc.), and yet claim to come in the name of Y'Shua.
The scribes (media) will have a lot of questions, and a field day.
The story repeats itself. How else will the modern world stop and listen once and for all?
I believe this is hail and fire, mingled with blood, cast upon the earth.
Are we looking for a destructive second coming without a proper wake up call that is in the spirit and action of Y'Shua who we follow?
A different discussion, a little off topic, so I'll stop there.

Well, I know of things that have happened in the past that started off the charismatic move which were exactly of God. I just don't know whether I believe it will be a public revival again the world over. I lean towards it being more private because I lean towards it being a secret rapture. Another topic yes but relevant to this one of the wise and foolish virgins.
The chance of some things starting to happen that are certainly of God is high, I just do not know how much it will be of a public nature on a widescale.
Also, I believe in a pre-trib rapture, and that the two witnesses which call rain down from heaven etc are sent to Israel to restore there. Anyway that's off topic.
I believe in anointing of the Holy Spirit. But it falls both on people (hence why people anoint heads with oil as symbolic) and that it must be IN the heart, or within a person. I don't know how you could lose the Holy Spirit but I think you could have the True Word and yet have no life - Spirit.
Say someone preaches from a pulpit reading out of the Word of God. It is the Word of God and is the Truth. But it has nothing there to quicken it to make it alive... make it real and personal and a reality to a person, not just Word.... that requires the Spirit.
And so I believe you need both the Spirit and the Truth. But that people can have one without the other. In terms of the Holy Spirit being the oil, and the foolish running out, I believe it's everything about the Holy Spirit, or that comes with the Holy Spirit. For instance, we have the anointing, we have the lining up with the Word, we have quickening /life. And quickening and bringing to life is when something is revealed, it is when you say "I understand it now". It is no longer just Word, it is revelation. And that comes from the Holy Spirit. So I think all of these things are to do with the oil, and what the foolish virgins run out of. I think they could run out of anointing, they could stop lining up with the Word, they could run out of quickening life. But I believe it is of revelation. So they come asking to the wise virgins for revelation and understanding but how can you impart revelation when it must come by the Holy Spirit? So the wise tell them to go and seek revelation for themselves. But while they are searching for revelation, the Bridegroom comes.

Well, that's my belief

 

[WolfInOxHide]

Well, that's my belief

I'll promise not to be disappointed in a pre-trib rapture, if you'll try not to be disappointed in a later one.
A pre-trib one should would make my life easier because I've signed way too many dotted lines.

However we look at the 10 virgins, we can at least extract maybe this most important feature:
All ten were called "virgins", and I believe that includes the 5 believers who had all but the ability to manifest the Spirit (in whatever capacity required of that person), when He actually returns?
I'd have to guess that out of the 5 with oil, they also probably burned at different levels of brightness, even if they had all sat down and tried to trim them to match, and they all 5 went in.
I know that's a lot of extrapolation in that last part, but when I read these stories, I try to fill every detail in the picture that I can.
Peace.

 

[Bea22]

I'll promise not to be disappointed in a pre-trib rapture, if you'll try not to be disappointed in a later one.
A pre-trib one should would make my life easier because I've signed way too many dotted lines.

However we look at the 10 virgins, we can at least extract maybe this most important feature:
All ten were called "virgins", and I believe that includes the 5 believers who had all but the ability to manifest the Spirit (in whatever capacity required of that person), when He actually returns?
I'd have to guess that out of the 5 with oil, they also probably burned at different levels of brightness, even if they had all sat down and tried to trim them to match, and they all 5 went in.
I know that's a lot of extrapolation in that last part, but when I read these stories, I try to fill every detail in the picture that I can.
Peace.

Deal

You pose an interesting thought and I see what you were meaning in your previous post. So greater manifestations of the Holy Spirit will be shown by the wise virgins?
Yes, I do believe so. That's another thing I didn't think of that comes with the Holy Spirit!
I think it is inclusive of the Holy Spirit and everything to do with it in and with His people.