Calvinism As Heresy - "Glory to od for All Things".

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Scotth1960

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"Calvinism As Heresy -- "Glory to God for All Things"
fatherstephen.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/calvinism-as-heresy/

[Cyril Lucaris, Patriarch of Constantinople, in the 17th century, allegedly composed a Calvinist Protestant "Confession of Faith" among the Eastern (Greek) Orthodox Church. I believe the Confession is a forgery, and was penned by Calvinist heretics, enemies of the Eastern Orthodox Church. Lucaris himself, I believe, repudiated such teachings.
Scott R. Harrington, Erie PA USA].
"In its 18 articles Lucaris professed virtually all the major doctrines of Calvinism; predestination, justification by faith alone, acceptance of only two sacraments (instead of seven, as taught by the Eastern Orthodox Church), rejection of icons, rejection of the infallibility of the church, and so on. In the Orthodox church the Confession started a controversy that culminated in 1672 in a convocation by Dositheus, patriarch of Jerusalem, of a church council that repudiated all Calvinist doctrines and reformulated Orthodox teachings in a manner intended to distinguish them from both Protestantism and Roman Catholicism.
"Decree 2 [of Confession of Dositheos, Jerusalem, 1672 AD]
"We believe the Divine and Sacred Scriptures to be God-taught; and, therefore, we ought to believe the same without doubting; yet not otherwise than as the Catholic Church has interpreted and delivered the same. For every foul heresy accepts the Divine Scriptures, but perversely interprets the same, using metaphors, and homonymies [homonyms], and sophistries of man's wisdom, counfounding what ought to be distinguished, and trifling with what [ought] not to be trifled with. For if [we were to accept Scriptures] otherwise, each man holding every day a different sense concerning them, the Catholic Church would not by the grace of Christ continue to be the Church until this day, holding the same doctrine of faith, and always identically and steadfastly believing. But rather she would be torn into innumerable parties, and subject to heresies. Neither would the church be holy, the pillar and ground of the truth, [1 Tim. 3:15] without spot or wrinkle; [Eph. 5:27] but would be the church of the malignant [Psalm 25:4] as is obvious the church of the heretics undoubtedly is, and especially that of Calvin, who are not ashamed to learn from the Church, and then to wickedly repudiate her."

"Unsettled Christianity" sanctam ecclesiam catholicam, sanctorum communionem

"The Confession of Dositheus -- Eastern Orthodoxy on Calvinism

October 19, 2010 posted by Joel

"... they [the Eastern Christians] are adamant that Calvinism must be rebuked."

God save us all from the wickedness of the Five Points of Calvinism; AMEN. Anathema, Maranatha!

5 damnable heresies
Total depravity
Unconditional Election
Limited atonement
Irresistible grace
Perseverance of the saints
Five Calvinist Lies against the Testimony of the Holy Scriptures as Rightly Divided (Interpreted) by the Church of the Living God, the Pillar and Ground of the Truth.

In Erie PA Scott R. Harrington
September 2011 AD Lord have mercy on us all in Christ Jesus (St. Titus 3:5). AMEN.

 
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Well one thing is certain, calvinism is heresy, one of the worst ever perpetrated on the church
 
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jimmydiggs

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tl;dr

Thread title is misleading. Makes it seem like you don't believe all things should be done to the glory of God.
 
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Scotth1960

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Re: Calvinism As Heresy - "Glory to God for All Things".

Well one thing is certain, calvinism is heresy, one of the worst ever perpetrated on the church
Dear 4runner. Forgive me the typo. This thread read "Glory to od for All Things". I left out the "G" when I was typing!
Well, if you want to know more regarding Calvinism, I recommend you read the following book
Schaeffer, Frank. (2002). Dancing Alone: The Quest For Orthodox Faith in the Age of False Religions. Salisbury, MA: Regina Orthodox Press. Regina Orthodox Press Online Store
See also: Vance, Lawrence M. The Other Side of Calvinism. Pensacola, FLA: Vance Publications.
Hunt, Dave. What Love Is This? Calvinism's Misrepresentation of God. Bend, OR: Berean Call.
Vance and Hunt have some errors of their own, but they reject Calvinism, which is good.
Schaeffer's book is error-free, as far as I can tell.
In Erie PA Scott R. Harrington September 2011 AD

PS Calvinism was perpetrated upon Protestantism, not upon the church, the Orthodox Church. It grew outside of Orthodoxy.
 
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tl;dr

Thread title is misleading. Makes it seem like you don't believe all things should be done to the glory of God.
I left out the "G" by accident. It was not intentional. May God forgive me. The title wasn't something I wrote. It was what Father Stephen wrote, so are you saying that Father Stephen believes that not all things should be done to the glory of God? That is not so. But why are you dressed up as a pirate? What does that have to do with the glory of God? God bless you!
To God be the glory for everything. God save us all. God save all of us in Christ Jesus. God bless you. In Erie PA Scott R. Harrington
 
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tl;dr

Thread title is misleading. Makes it seem like you don't believe all things should be done to the glory of God.
Jimmydiggs, What does pretending that Cape Girardeau is in Tibet, and that you're from Cape Girardeau, Tibet, have to do with the glory of God? Your nationality IS MISLEADING. God bless you. Scott R. Harrington Erie PA United States of America, Earth.
God's Kingdom come, His will be done on earth, as it is in Heaven. Amen.
 
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jimmydiggs

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Pirate? It's been awhile since I've had that avatar.
 
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Jimmydiggs, What does pretending that Cape Girardeau is in Tibet, and that you're from Cape Girardeau, Tibet, have to do with the glory of God? Your nationality IS MISLEADING. God bless you. Scott R. Harrington Erie PA United States of America, Earth.
God's Kingdom come, His will be done on earth, as it is in Heaven. Amen.
Lol. I don't think you understood what I said, but that's totally understandable.


I don't believe I'm pretending Cape Girardeau is in Tibet. My location is set to USA. As far as nationality, I just don't want a flag to appear.

This is the only nationality I subscribe to:



The Kingdom of God.
 

Grandpa

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If you truly want to know about Calvinism read Institutes of the Christian Religion and decide for yourself. Prove it for yourself with the bible and see if it is true.

Or I guess you could just blindly follow what other people tell you...

Either way its not that big of a deal. Its more important to read the bible for yourself than read other peoples interpretations, imho.

God Bless You
 
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If you truly want to know about Calvinism read Institutes of the Christian Religion and decide for yourself. Prove it for yourself with the bible and see if it is true.

Or I guess you could just blindly follow what other people tell you...

Either way its not that big of a deal. Its more important to read the bible for yourself than read other peoples interpretations, imho.

God Bless You
I read the Institutes. It doesn't agree with Church Tradition. St. Peter didn't burn people at the stake. John Calvin did that. He isn't worthy to be a teacher for all Christians. No prophecy of Scripture is of any private decision. Of any private interpretation. Christians aren't called by God to "decide for themselves". Only the Church can tell us what we should believe (1 Tim. 3:15).

 
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Lol. I don't think you understood what I said, but that's totally understandable.


I don't believe I'm pretending Cape Girardeau is in Tibet. My location is set to USA. As far as nationality, I just don't want a flag to appear.

This is the only nationality I subscribe to:



The Kingdom of God.
Where does the Scripture tell us the Kingdom of God has a flag?

 
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jimmydiggs

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Where does the Scripture tell us the Kingdom of God has a flag?
Doesn't say there is. Just would rather fly a flag that isn't nationalistic. Point wasn't really the flag though. Surprised you missed that.
 
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Doesn't say there is. Just would rather fly a flag that isn't nationalistic. Point wasn't really the flag though. Surprised you missed that.
What's wrong with nationalism? See Romans 13 please.
 

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I read the Institutes. It doesn't agree with Church Tradition. St. Peter didn't burn people at the stake. John Calvin did that. He isn't worthy to be a teacher for all Christians. No prophecy of Scripture is of any private decision. Of any private interpretation. Christians aren't called by God to "decide for themselves". Only the Church can tell us what we should believe (1 Tim. 3:15).
Why would God give us brains if He didn't want us to use them? Why did God preserve the bible for us if He didn't want us to read it.

There's only one truth. Read the bible and find out what it is.
 
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What's wrong with nationalism? See Romans 13 please.

Romans 13 does not justify Nationalism..

Webster said:
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: loyalty and devotion to a nation; especially: a sense of national consciousness exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups
 
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Ive read the bible, and i agree... Calvinism is complete heresy.

its roots come from Gnosticism, something that even the apostles fought against
 

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Ive read the bible, and i agree... Calvinism is complete heresy.

its roots come from Gnosticism, something that even the apostles fought against
How is saying that God is sovereign, gnosticism? You realize how ridiculous that is?
 
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jimmydiggs

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Ive read the bible, and i agree... Calvinism is complete heresy.

its roots come from Gnosticism, something that even the apostles fought against
Name calling? Souns fun!

Arminianism is rooted in Pelagianism.
 
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Name calling? Souns fun!

Arminianism is rooted in Pelagianism.
actually, for your information, Calvininsts themselves, more specifically Robert A. Peterson and Michael D. Williams, have admitted that Arminianism is NOT Pelagianism, OR Semi-Pelagianism

(Why I am Not an Arminian, p.39)
"Does the antipathy between Calvinism and Arminianism suggest that Pelagius, the arch-opposite of Augustine, is the proper ancestor of Arminianism? Calvinists have often sought to paint Arminianism in Pelagian colors.
Associating your opponent with a position that the historic faith has repeatedly judged heretical can only help one’s cause. However, the allegation that Arminianism is Pelagian is unfortunate and indeed unwarranted. From Jacob Arminius and the ‘Remonstrance Articles’ on, the Arminian tradition has affirmed the corruption of the will by sin and the necessity of grace for redemption.
Arminianism is not Pelagianism….The Semi-Pelagians thought of salvation as beginning with human beings. We must first seek God; and his grace is a response to that seeking. The Arminians of the seventeenth century, however, held that the human will has been so corrupted by sin that a person cannot seek God without the enablement of grace.
They therefore affirmed the necessity and priority of grace in redemption. Grace must go before a person’s response to the gospel. This suggests that Arminianism is closer to Semi-Augustinianism than it is to Semi-Pelagianism or Pelagianism."

instead of making false accusations, maybe you should actually read about what Arminianism is, instead of listening to Calvinist propaganda, and blindly believing what you hear.
 
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Scotth1960

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Romans 13 does not justify Nationalism..
So if all nations are equal, are Saudi Arabia, Iran, Tibet and China, and North Korea, equal to the USA? Is it wrong to say the USA is better than those nations?