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GaryMac

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God sent an example of what He wants of us and His example is Jesus Christ. Christianity isn’t about who Jesus was, we all know who he was, Christianity is about who you are and are you like Him.
Everything Jesus said and did was a message intended for you and I as example of what you and I are supposed to be, to be like and to imitate. Do you walk as He walks, do you have the same mind that Jesus had and think and do as he did? Do you have the same Spirit in you? Are you perfect even as your Father in heaven is perfect as Jesus commanded you to be?
If you are anything less than what Jesus was then you have made up your own rules, doctrines, for you’re god. Denying to be as He is and as the one God sent to give to you what he had, to teach you to walk in the same light as He … seems to be the order for most.
Some say we cant be perfect even as our Father in heaven is perfect -- which is a direct denial to follow Gods way and the one He sent for you to follow and be like … That is His way. He is the way, the way you are supposed to be.
If you are anything less from what Jesus was, then you don’t follow Gods way for you at all.
 
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Gary....this is trash mixed with truths. and this: "If you are anything less from what Jesus was, then you don’t follow Gods way for you at all." is a giant
lie. Im sure you will soon be fully exposed.
 
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GaryMac

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Abiding said:
Gary....this is trash mixed with truths. and this: "If you are anything less from what Jesus was, then you don’t follow Gods way for you at all." is a giant
lie. Im sure you will soon be fully exposed.
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If God didn’t send Jesus for you to follow, to imitate, to walk as he walks, same Spirit in you, same mind, the mind of Christ, one with the Father as he was one with the Father, walk in the same light as he did, Christ in you. Perhaps you have a better way from His way for you? I’m eager to hear your better way. You really do not know that He is the way do you?
 
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GaryMac

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Abiding said:
Gary....this is trash mixed with truths. and this: "If you are anything less from what Jesus was, then you don’t follow Gods way for you at all." is a giant
lie. Im sure you will soon be fully exposed.
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I supose it would be trash to one who is without the Christ. I mean, look at how Jesus was treated, he was blasphemer to the same.
 
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I supose it would be trash to one who is without the Christ. I mean, look at how Jesus was treated, he was blasphemer to the same.
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heres what you said:"If you are anything less from what Jesus was, then you don’t follow Gods way for you at all."

This is trash..far from the truth. A seed falls in the ground and dies...then it sprouts..then a leaf..for
some time you dont even know what kind....from there it grows till finally it bears fruit. For you to take some
high elite idea or truth(used wrongly) to say a person doesnt even follow Gods way at all(in this process), is simply being a confusing stumblingblock.

The fact that you right off come back with the Jesus was treated bad, your probably without Christ, and such is typical comeback from a heritic. At you age you should be teaching simple doctrines easy for growing christians
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heres what you said:"If you are anything less from what Jesus was, then you don’t follow Gods way for you at all."

This is trash..far from the truth. A seed falls in the ground and dies...then it sprouts..then a leaf..for
some time you dont even know what kind....from there it grows till finally it bears fruit. For you to take some
high elite idea or truth(used wrongly) to say a person doesnt even follow Gods way at all(in this process), is simply being a confusing stumblingblock.

The fact that you right off come back with the Jesus was treated bad, your probably without Christ, and such is typical comeback from a heritic. At you age you should be teaching simple doctrines easy for growing christians
not this
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It is simple teaching for growing Christians. A seed that falls to the ground and sprouts, it is no longer a seed it is a replica from the parent. And exact duplication. Humm. What a novel concept. What seed would you call Christ in you? Does it bear the same fruit? He does in me, He and I are one. AN exact duplication of my Father who is God. Created in His image.

So you don’t believe that Jesus was falsely accused and treated badly? Humm, I wonder what would be considered bad if being accused of your father is the devil, and smaked in the face, spit on, beat, whipped and hung on a cross, and called HERITIC and said your doctrine is trash. Gosh I would hate to see what you would consider bad if that was some kind of stroll in the park for you?
Seeds are an interesting thing. We are all virgin to Gods Spirit until that seed be planted in you, Giving birth to that seed is the real issue here and His plan for us all. Until you, His seed, created in His image, become like the parent of that seed, sons, it will never bear a replica of the parent and it will remain dormant and the foul will eat it up.

It is a simple teaching -- Christ in you really is the hope of glory and giving birth to that seed, Christ in you, same Spirit in you who was in Christ Jesus, is the message in the gospel of Christ. But then we all know that Christ simply means to be anointed of God now don’t we?
 
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GaryMac said:
God sent an example of what He wants of us and His example is Jesus Christ. Christianity isn’t about who Jesus was, we all know who he was, Christianity is about who you are and are you like Him.
Everything Jesus said and did was a message intended for you and I as example of what you and I are supposed to be, to be like and to imitate. Do you walk as He walks, do you have the same mind that Jesus had and think and do as he did? Do you have the same Spirit in you? Are you perfect even as your Father in heaven is perfect as Jesus commanded you to be?
If you are anything less than what Jesus was then you have made up your own rules, doctrines, for you’re god. Denying to be as He is and as the one God sent to give to you what he had, to teach you to walk in the same light as He … seems to be the order for most.
Some say we cant be perfect even as our Father in heaven is perfect -- which is a direct denial to follow Gods way and the one He sent for you to follow and be like … That is His way. He is the way, the way you are supposed to be.
If you are anything less from what Jesus was, then you don’t follow Gods way for you at all.
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What the HELL!!! "for you're god"?!?!?! REALLY! This is lies, lies and more lies. Jesus was not just and example He is our salvation without him we are nothing, we are certainly not "god", that is some new age crap.
 
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this is what you said: "If you are anything less from what Jesus was, then you don’t follow Gods way for you at all."


Im not unfamiliar with all your added teaching. Like i said alot of truth mixed in. Be accountable for what you have been
constantly saying in each thread since you got here. Your added reasons are making me sleepy. Start over and begin with
the beginning. Instead of talking from the ivory tower then having to explain.
 
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GaryMac

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CanadaNZ said:
What the HELL!!! "for you're god"?!?!?! REALLY! This is lies, lies and more lies. Jesus was not just and example He is our salvation without him we are nothing, we are certainly not "god", that is some new age crap.
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It is only lies if you do not have in you what Jesus had in him. God came to Jesus in SPirit and opend heaven to the man when he was 30 yeras ole. Matt 3:16. The same thing, seed, happens in us all who recieve the same thing from God the Father. But I do agree that without Christ we are nothing, Christ in you assures that we are someting in the Father, He in me and I in Him as one. Jesus taught the same thing and even prayed to our God for all to be one with Him as he was one with Him., John 17.

The lie isnt that we cant be like Him, the lie is that you cant be like Him. God r3eally did send Jesus to give to you what he had, I know you dont believe that but that was his mission sent.
 
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GaryMac

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Abiding said:
this is what you said: "If you are anything less from what Jesus was, then you don’t follow Gods way for you at all."


Im not unfamiliar with all your added teaching. Like i said alot of truth mixed in. Be accountable for what you have been
constantly saying in each thread since you got here. Your added reasons are making me sleepy. Start over and begin with
the beginning. Instead of talking from the ivory tower then having to explain.
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Added teachings? What have I added that Jesus didnt teach himself? can you tell me one thing?

what you mean is added to your laws for tradition which dictate to your god what you want him to be. We in Christ are like Him in every way, same mind, same Spirit same Father, same everything, If you cant adhire to the way Jesus was for yourself, then you only dictate to him what you want him to be is all.
 
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If you are anything less than what Jesus was then you have made up your own rules,
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This to me suggest you are saying we have to be equals with our Lord Jesus Christ?

If we abide in Christ we will bear super natural fruit over time and become conformed to his image, it is not something that happens straight away.

To make a statement like this have you not become self righteous and are saying you are at the same level is our Lord Jesus Christ?

John 15:20
Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
 
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GaryMac

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LovingtheLord said:
By this...


This to me suggest you are saying we have to be equals with our Lord Jesus Christ?

If we abide in Christ we will bear super natural fruit over time and become conformed to his image, it is not something that happens straight away.

To make a statement like this have you not become self righteous and are saying you are at the same level is our Lord Jesus Christ?

John 15:20
Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
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No I am not saying we have to be equal with Jesus at all, I am saying we get to be. Jesus didnt think it robbery to be equal with God nor do I, He in me and I in Him are one, that is His will for us that we be, John 17.

Self rightiousness is to think you cant be one with Him and like Him, His righteous are in every way, same SPirit, same Father who is God ... IN YOU.

And I agree it happens in a twinkling of an eye the corrupt puts on incorruption and all things become new. New heaven and earth. Behold the kingdom of God is withn you.
 
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GaryMac said:
No I am not saying we have to be equal with Jesus at all, I am saying we get to be. Jesus didnt think it robbery to be equal with God nor do I, He in me and I in Him are one, that is His will for us that we be, John 17.

Self rightiousness is to think you cant be one with Him and like Him, His righteous are in every way, same SPirit, same Father who is God ... IN YOU.

And I agree it happens in a twinkling of an eye the corrupt puts on incorruption and all things become new. New heaven and earth. Behold the kingdom of God is withn you.
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GaryMac, Jesus Christ IS God, He became fully man (God in flesh) and we beheld His glory. We are NOT God.

John 1:1-3, John 1:14
 
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GaryMac

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GaryMac, Jesus Christ IS God, He became fully man (God in flesh) and we beheld His glory. We are NOT God.

John 1:1-3, John 1:14
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You are correct no man is a god, unless of course you worship aman as a god, a god of flesh.

Jesus always was fully man, God didnt become a man named Jesus, Jesus was God incarnate. God in the man. God always has been SPirit andnever has changed and always made His abode in man.

Jesus said behold the kingdom of God is withn you. God came to Jesus in SPirit and opend heaven to the man, Matt 3:16. He did the same in me. He is not a man. He is SPirit and resides in me, Christ in me. He and I as one. You are suposed to be as well.
 
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GaryMac said:
You are correct no man is a god, unless of course you worship aman as a god, a god of flesh.

Jesus always was fully man, God didnt become a man named Jesus, Jesus was God incarnate. God in the man. God always has been SPirit andnever has changed and always made His abode in man.

Jesus said behold the kingdom of God is withn you. God came to Jesus in SPirit and opend heaven to the man, Matt 3:16. He did the same in me. He is not a man. He is SPirit and resides in me, Christ in me. He and I as one. You are suposed to be as well.
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John 1:1-3
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

John 1:14
The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
 
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Isaiah
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
 
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Colossians 1:27
(27) To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
Revelation 10:7
(7) But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
Philippians 1:6
(6) Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform (finish) it until the day of Jesus Christ:
Hebrews 12:2
(2) Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

 
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GaryMac said:
No I am not saying we have to be equal with Jesus at all, I am saying we get to be. Jesus didnt think it robbery to be equal with God nor do I, He in me and I in Him are one, that is His will for us that we be, John 17.

Self rightiousness is to think you cant be one with Him and like Him, His righteous are in every way, same SPirit, same Father who is God ... IN YOU.

And I agree it happens in a twinkling of an eye the corrupt puts on incorruption and all things become new. New heaven and earth. Behold the kingdom of God is withn you.
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this is just goes on and on.
i guess it will til the end.
 
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Gary your not getting what the contention is. you made a statement....then when confronted you give explainations.
lets go over it again. You said: "If you are anything less from what Jesus was, then you dont follow Gods way AT ALL."

Thats the lie. Especially the "at all" im not sure why you dont see that. Noone is saying that the doctrines in john 17 are not a reality.
Its just not the first thing someone is illumined with, it comes later in the believers growth. And you claiming its as if it was a condition
for salvation. Actually to take it a face value that sentence is a heresy.
 
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GaryMac

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Laodicea said:
Colossians 1:27
(27) To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
Revelation 10:7
(7) But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
Philippians 1:6
(6) Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform (finish) it until the day of Jesus Christ:
Hebrews 12:2
(2) Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
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Amen Christ in you opens all of the mysteries, all of heaven. Noting is hidden in Christ. The revelation of the Christ opens everything to you.
 
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