Adam vs ADAM!

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Cobus

Cobus

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Adam was perfect, and the crown of God's creation. It looks like the Lord walked in the garden with Adam and Eve in the cool of the day. But after they sinned by not obeying God, they heard the Lord walking in the garden again, but they went into hiding! The Lord wanted to see Adam, but he was in hiding, because he could not FACE GOD! Adam said ....he was afraid, because he was naked and that is why he HIDE from God.

But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.

And thus Adam brought sin into the world. Sin brought DEATH. Through that sin that Adam brought into the world, many will die. But there is a second ADAM that has a WAY out of this death! And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

It looks like we inherited the sinful nature, in our living souls but that we can be changed back to the original state of not being ashamed, scared and hiding! Adam brought us the sin and death, and by the GRACE of GOD He sent Jesus (OUR ADAM) to bring us the opposite.... holiness and life!

When Jesus gives us that holiness and life, we are not Adam's descendants, living souls, we are then ADAM'S descendants, quickened spirits... ONE SPIRIT!

All God's children have ONE SPIRIT in them. that Spirit is Christ Jesus! He quickeneth even the flesh!!! To be holy and ALIVE for GOD'S purpose! This is the verse that confirms just how ONE these people are because of wht Jesus did, and STILL DO TODAY... Jesus unites people IN HIMSELF WITH HIMSELF! Look here,,,,
One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

God cannot be seperated, to go in two directions. God is not devided. God is not conflicted, or complicated. God seperates the evil and the just, to walk TWO DIFFERENT paths. One walks in HIS light and there is NO DARKENESS there, and the other group walks in darkness and there is NO LIGHT there. Oh they can appear to have light, but they CANNOT decieve the children of the light!

God is in ALL Children of the light, EXACTLY as He was is Jesus. The Same Spirit of holiness! GOD IN ALL!

ADAM is King of the children of the light FOR HIS GLORY. And Adam is king of the lost, NOT FOR GOD'S GLORY! Amen!
 
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Cobus said:
Adam was perfect, and the crown of God's creation.
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Wow, you could not be any more wrong. What in the world are you even trying to say?
 
Strangelove

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I suggest we no longer respond to these perfectionist weirdos.

I doubt they are even gehuine in their doctrines and are prolly here to take up out time and effort.
 
Cobus

Cobus

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Naphal said:
Wow, you could not be any more wrong. What in the world are you even trying to say?
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Naphal I guess when God said... Let us make man in our image and to our likeness, and then declares it to be good. I would estimate anything God finds GOOD is perfect! God even called it VERY GOOD! So i guess if the GOOD LORD calls something else...His creation, including the two people also very good then I would not argue with Him!

Nothing else God made, was to please Him as man and woman should have. God did not send His Son for the world of trees and animals, but for the LOST man and woman. That is what God loves most of His creation. Remember Jesus ws not created, but begotten!

I am trying to say, Adam did not fall short of the glory of God before he sinned, and in the same way he did fall sort that same way we fall short. But we do not have to stay short! God has a way to reconsile us with HIS GLORY... Jesus Christ (the NEW ADAM) is the WAY!
 
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Naphal I guess when God said... Let us make man in our image and to our likeness, and then declares it to be good.
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I'm sorry, did God declare Adam "perfect", because you seemed to.
 
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Cobus said:
Naphal I guess when God said... Let us make man in our image and to our likeness, and then declares it to be good. I would estimate anything God finds GOOD is perfect! God even called it VERY GOOD! So i guess if the GOOD LORD calls something else...His creation, including the two people also very good then I would not argue with Him!

Nothing else God made, was to please Him as man and woman should have. God did not send His Son for the world of trees and animals, but for the LOST man and woman. That is what God loves most of His creation. Remember Jesus ws not created, but begotten!

I am trying to say, Adam did not fall short of the glory of God before he sinned, and in the same way he did fall sort that same way we fall short. But we do not have to stay short! God has a way to reconsile us with HIS GLORY... Jesus Christ (the NEW ADAM) is the WAY!
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Amen what is so bad about Adam becomeing like God to know the difference? Gen 3:22. Jesus referd to the process as born again. The first man Adam was of flesh, the second man Adam was of SPirit. The same happens in all who recieve from God His Spirit, even Jesus went through the same process in Matt 3:16, only then was heaven opend to the man. It happend in Paul on the road to Damascus, 120 in an upper room, Adam, Moses, Abraham, and me.

That which is first is flesh, then that which is Spirit. The message in the cross is death to that flesh man and resurrection of the Spirit man. Who can hear it? Ill tell you, the one who has crucified his flesh and put on the Christ for self. As Adem did.

Sin is not a defect, we inherit it with the flesh, that is the part we inherit from Adam. It was created by God. Is. 53:5. WHo do you think put that serpent in the garden in the first place that was more subtile than any God created? And I will tell you that the serpent might not be what one thinks. Jesus was a serpent to those who oposed him, being of his father the devil they accused him of. A whole lot is to be said about that serpent. But most are not ready to hear it.

Christ is the enemy of the flesh and a serpent the flesh doesnt want to deal with and makes every excuse not to turn it over to Christ and be one with Him. Those firy darts God sends that stings the flesh man. A serpent of brass that when you look at it you will be healed. A serpent that one might not be what one would think that comes from God. To one serpent and blasphemer and of his father the devil, it lead to crucifixion.

And it is this very thing which keeps one from being like Him, one with Him, He in you and you in Him as one, and having in you what Jesus had in him. Christ kills the flesh man, the flesh man kills the Christ.
 
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Strangelove said:
I suggest we no longer respond to these perfectionist weirdos.

I doubt they are even gehuine in their doctrines and are prolly here to take up out time and effort.
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If you haven't got anything nice to say, don't say anything at All!
 
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adam and eve were created perfect and they became imperfect when they sinned by eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil that God had told them not to eat from...
 
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RachelBibleStudent said:
adam and eve were created perfect and they became imperfect when they sinned by eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil that God had told them not to eat from...
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Actually He said in the day you eat of it you will surly die. Same Spiritual food Jesus said take and eat it, in the day you do you will surly die. That is the message in the cross, death to your flesh man and resurrection of the SPirit man. Everyone who eats of this Spirit dies and puts on the new man.

Gen 3:22 And Man became like God to know the difference. What is so bad about Adam becoming like God. Isnt that what Jesus teaches to be one with God as he was one with Him? The lie wasnt that you will die, the lie was that you wont die. You must die in order to know Him and be one with Him He in you and you in Him as one. Christ formed in YOU.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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GaryMac said:
Actually He said in the day you eat of it you will surly die. Same Spiritual food Jesus said take and eat it, in the day you do you will surly die. That is the message in the cross, death to your flesh man and resurrection of the SPirit man. Everyone who eats of this Spirit dies and puts on the new man.

Gen 3:22 And Man became like God to know the difference. What is so bad about Adam becoming like God. Isnt that what Jesus teaches to be one with God as he was one with Him? The lie wasnt that you will die, the lie was that you wont die. You must die in order to know Him and be one with Him He in you and you in Him as one. Christ formed in YOU.
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eating the fruit was bad because God told them not to...that is the bottom line
 
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