The Four Millennial Views

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Premillennialism




Postmillennialism




Pretrib Premillennialism




Amillennialism


Each of these primary millennial views falls within the framework of historic Christian orthodoxy. Though they differ in significant ways with regard to the interpretation of the book of Revelation and other passages related to eschatology, each view is well represented among Bible-believing, orthodox Christians.

im posting this so that you can see the different views Christians have concerning the thousand year reign which i believe is FIGURATIVE from the first advent to the second, as you can see it has no millennial reign on the Amillennial view.

Personally the Amillennialism is my view and would like to thank some friends which helped me understand that dispensationalism is in error which can be biblically proven.

What we have found is that most of the prophecies in the book of Revelation is not in chronological order concerning chapters thus later on ill be posting the order of events (chronological order of scripture) specifically of Rev 21, 20, 19.

Obviously there will be many that will disagree with our view but that's okay.

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Amillennialism
believe that the biblical evidence indicates that there is and will be no (a-) millennium in the sense anticipated by Premillennialism or Postmillennialism before the consummation of history, when sin and curse are utterly banished in the “new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells” (2 Pet 3:13).

Through Christ's death and resurrection Satan was bound, and therefore he is unable to hold the Gentiles in ignorance or gather a worldwide coalition against the church.

Therefore the gospel now advances by the Spirit's power through the church's witness, but always amid opposition and suffering.

Just as Jesus the Lamb conquered by being slain, so the victory of his church consists in faithfulness “even unto death” (Rev. 5:9; 12:11).

The “first resurrection” is, paradoxically, the martyrs' death, which brings them to heavenly thrones from which they now reign with Christ (20:4–5). The “thousand years” vision prepares the church for a long era of witness and suffering between Christ's first coming to bind Satan (Mark 3:26–27) and his return to destroy Satan.

It does not promise relief from persecution, nor a general improvement of living conditions on the sin-infected “first earth,” prior to the pristine new heaven and earth.

Rather, the vision promises that the dragon, already a defeated foe, cannot thwart God's plan to gather people from all nations into the Lamb's redeemed army.

Amillennialism
when Christ will come bodily and gloriously to rescue his suffering church and destroy its enemies: beasts, dragon, their deceived and defiant followers, and—in the general resurrection of the just and the unjust—death itself (20:14; see 1 Cor. 15:26, 54–55).

The “appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ” is the “blessed hope” for which believers wait (Titus 2:13).



Scriptures concerning Amillennialism

1st Advent until the little Season (thousand years figurative)
1. Rev 20:1-6

little Season until the second Advent (Armageddon starts)
1. Rev 20:7-9

2nd Advent (Armageddon finishes)
1. Rev 19:11-16
2. Rev 19:19
3. Rev 19:21
4. Rev 19:17-18

Great White Throne (Judgment)

1. Rev 20:11-13
2. Rev 19:20
3. Rev 20:10

Marriage Supper of the Lamb
5. Rev 19:1-9

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eternally-gratefull

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So what? was this a jab? Pre-millenialism can not be proven by scripture? thats just your opinion.

Funny how I showed you how rev 19 - 20 flow continuously by removing the inserted man made verse and chapter form of the passage, and wrote it how John wrote it, and those who would have read his origional letter. Yet you failed to respond.

There are many premillenial views. I do nt agree with alot of them. It does not make the all premillenial views invalid or unscriptural.
 
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Laodicea

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I do not beleive either of those 4 views.

[FONT=&quot]Revelation 16:19-20[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
(19) And the great city was divided into three parts, and [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]the cities of the nations fell: [/FONT][FONT=&quot]and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.
(20) And [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]every island fled away, and the mountains[/FONT][FONT=&quot] were not found.
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[FONT=&quot]Jeremiah 4:25-26[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
(25) I beheld, and, lo, [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]there was no man[/FONT][FONT=&quot], and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
(26) I beheld, and, lo, [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]the fruitful place was a wilderness[/FONT][FONT=&quot], and a[/FONT][FONT=&quot]ll the cities thereof were broken down[/FONT][FONT=&quot] at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger.

There are no more cities, all the earth will become like a desert, it also says there will be no man.
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[FONT=&quot]Isaiah 13:9-11[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
(9) Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]to lay the land desolate[/FONT][FONT=&quot]: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.
(10) For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]the sun shall be darkened [/FONT][FONT=&quot]in his going forth, and [/FONT][FONT=&quot]the moon shall not cause her light to shine.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
(11) And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.

These texts are yet to be fulfilled, when Jesus returns the earth will become something like Mars nothing and the wicked will be destroyed also there will be no light. The earth will go back to its original state.
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[FONT=&quot]Revelation 20:1[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
(1) And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]the bottomless pit[/FONT][FONT=&quot] and a great chain in his hand.

Bottomless pit can also be translated as deep, which is the original state of the earth
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[FONT=&quot]Genesis 1:2[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
(2) And the earth was [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]without form, and void[/FONT][FONT=&quot]; and darkness was upon the face of [/FONT][FONT=&quot]the deep.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
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[FONT=&quot]Jeremiah 4:23[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
(23) I beheld [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void[/FONT][FONT=&quot]; and the heavens, and they had no light.

What will happen to God's people during the 1000 years?
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[FONT=&quot]Revelation 20:4[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
(4) And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
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[FONT=&quot]John 14:2-3[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
(2) [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]In my Father's house[/FONT][FONT=&quot] are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
(3) And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]where I am, there ye may be also.

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[FONT=&quot]For the 1000 years God's people will be in heaven, while only Satan and his angels will be here on this dark earth which will be like a desert.
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[FONT=&quot]Jeremiah 25:33[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
(33) And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; [/FONT][FONT=&quot]they shall be dung upon the ground.

This verse is future it will be fulfilled when Jesus returns, the wicked will not be buried and they will be all over the earth. They will not be buried because there is no one to bury them. When the 1000 years are over then God's people come down with the city

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RachelBibleStudent

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i don't know if i accept any of those four views...

also you left out preterism...
 

cronjecj

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hi rachel

which view do you feel comfortable with?
 

cronjecj

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also you left out preterism...

oops


where they believe all the prophecies of Rev is fulfilled. And that Jesus came back in AD 70 in Spirit. And that we are now in the new heaven and earth.

lolz
 
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I believe your Pretrib Premillennialism chart is closest to the truth.
 

cronjecj

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this mushroom is poisonous.
 
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this mushroom is poisonous.
yes, that mushroom is. As is amillennialism. Well, maybe amillennialism isn't poisonous, since it won't stop someone from being saved. But it's wrong.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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hi rachel

which view do you feel comfortable with?
i don't know yet...i think there may be something to learn from all the views...
 

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rachel

you can learn from these views only to realize that Amillennialism is the correct one :rolleyes:
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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oops


where they believe all the prophecies of Rev is fulfilled. And that Jesus came back in AD 70 in Spirit. And that we are now in the new heaven and earth.

lolz
only full preterists believe that...there are also partial preterists who believe the second coming and the new heaven and new earth have not happened yet...

and yes you forgot historicism too...
 

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not another one? ok ill add them on another day.