It's not a question of "free will", It's a question of "Ownership"

[2knowhim]

It's not a question of "free will", It's a question of "Ownership"

God created man out of the dust of the ground. If God owns all the land by right of creation, and we are made of the dust of the ground, God owns you and God owns me. It is not a question of whether or not you have a free will; it is a question of who owns you. By right of creation, can anyone deny that God owns the dust of the ground? Did God form man from this very dust? Does anybody deny that God created all things? If God created all things, then He owns all things, and there is where we find the crux of the whole matter.
We can argue all day long, back and forth, about whether or not man has free will. That debate makes for good mental gymnastics, but the whole issue is really beside the point. The point is who owns all things?

Exodus 21.When you begin to look at the laws of liability, then ownership becomes very, very important. Remember, we are asking ourselves this basic question: Who is liable for the evil that is done in the earth? The church has developed the idea of free will in order to explain evil and remove the liability from God's shoulders. They do not want God to be responsible for anything bad that is happening, and to do this they put the responsibility upon man and the devil. Is that not the basic motive? If that is the basic motive, then free will teaching does not solve the problem that it was intended to resolve.
Who created the devil? Who created man? God did not have to create the devil, nor was He compelled by external force or coercion to create man. But because He did so, He owns and is responsible for that which He has created. If either man or devils have done evil, the owner is legally liable, regardless of their “free will.”

To be continued........

 

[2knowhim]

Re: It's not a question of "free will", It's a question of "Ownership"

God's Liability Laws Based upon Ownership

To prove this liability, let us look at some of the laws of ownership:
Exodus 21:33-34
33 And if a man shall open a pit, or if a man shall dig a pit, and not cover it, and an ox or an ass fall therein; 34 the owner of the pit shall make it good, and give money unto the owner of them; and the dead beast shall be his.
The liability here is based upon ownership. If a man digs a pit and does not take the necessary steps to cover it and an ox comes along and falls in by his own free will or by his own stupidity, guess who is liable according to God's law? This is the law that sets the standard of liability. It is the owner of the pit who is liable, and he must then buy the dead ox for himself. The owner has to pay for it as though it were a live ox, and the dead ox is his.
Back in the Garden of Eden, God dug a “pit.” He did not cover it up, and man fell. Why did man fall? Why did he die? He died because God planted a couple of “trees” in this garden and gave man the “free will” to make the decision, fully aware what decision Adam would make. Yet God did not cover the pit to prevent Adam's fall. He did not take the precaution in this case. He did not build a ten-foot fence around that tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Man fell because God did not take the proper precautions that would have been necessary to prevent man from sinning.
Could God have prevented man from sinning? Of course He could have. He did not have to plant the tree in the first place, or if He did, He did not have to omit the fence. Even then, He did not have to create a tempter and allow him entrance into the garden. Did the tempter come in without God's knowledge? Did God turn off the security alarms and somehow the devil entered the garden without God's knowledge? Did God say “oops!”? Is God really that ignorant?

The fact is that God knew the end from the beginning. He was not taken by surprise. He dug that pit and left it uncovered because He had a plan, and the plan called for man to fall. And so he did. By God's own liability laws, then, He is responsible. So what did God do about it? He sent His only begotten Son who was lifted up on the cross in order to drag all men to Himself. He paid for the sin of the whole world because all of creation became subject to death through Adam's fall. He bought the dead ox. The ox is now His.

Do you realize what this means? He bought all who fell, and they are now His. Has anyone escaped falling? At the present time it may not look like all mankind is His, but the fact is that God created them and therefore, by His own liability laws, He purchased the world. In doing so, He fulfilled the law perfectly. This is the Good News of the New Testament. His blood was sufficient and worth enough to pay for the sin of the whole world.
1 John 2:2
2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

 

[mpaper345]

Re: It's not a question of "free will", It's a question of "Ownership"

God does own all things,and everybody is accountable to God to do right,but God gave man the freedom to choose to be with Him or not,because His kingdom is based on love.

If God did not give man the choice to be with Him or not,then the elect are a bunch of robots that really do not love God,but only say I love God because they have no choice,meaning God's kingdom is not love.

The elect are robots,like programming your computer to say I love you,but it does not.

And if the elect are chosen by God to follow Him,in which they have to do it for they were chosen,how come people who claim to be with Christ are arguing against that,seeing they should be going along as planned not objecting to that,seeing they were chosen by God.

They were chosen by God,but they cannot see the truth that they were chosen of God,but argue against it.

And what about all the people who debate over different interpretations,and the ones who say they are elect say they are wrong,but how can they be wrong if they were chosen of God.They should know the truth,and if they say all the people who claim to be with Christ are not saved,how did they come to Christ in the first place if they were not chosen,and then who knows who is chosen.

It would seem that anybody that claims Christ would have to be part of the elect,for how did they come to Christ unless they were chosen,but they argue over truth,and it would seem since they were chosen they would know the truth,which comes to the point that we have a choice.

We have a choice before we come to Christ,and we have a choice to after we come to Christ.

What about Judas Iscariot,how Jesus chose him to be a disciple,but Judas betrayed Him,and went to his own place.Jesus even called Judas friend after Judas betrayed Him.He was chosen to follow Jesus,but fell away.

Adam and Eve were following God,but they fell away.

 

[2knowhim]

Re: It's not a question of "free will", It's a question of "Ownership"

Is God not subject to His own Law?
Of Course He is.

And He shows us that when He gave His Son He paid the price,
And bought All, it's not a matter of free will, it's a matter of Ownership.

God by rights of Creation owns All things, even those that are dead,
Hence, He can now make this statement: He is not the God of the dead, but
of the Living.

For whether we live or die, we are the Lords, even Judas.

Blessings

 

[Israel]

Re: It's not a question of "free will", It's a question of "Ownership"

Very good, beloved.

1 Corinthians 9:7-10

7Who goeth a warfare any time at his own charges? who planteth a vineyard, and eateth not of the fruit thereof? or who feedeth a flock, and eateth not of the milk of the flock?

8Say I these things as a man? or saith not the law the same also?

9For it is written in the law of Moses, thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen?

10Or saith he it altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, this is written: that he that ploweth should plow in hope; and that he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope.

 

[2knowhim]

Re: It's not a question of "free will", It's a question of "Ownership"

Yes, also good Israel,

And I would love to take credit for this study, but I can't it's by
Stephen E. Jones, The study is awesome in it's entirerity.

I love to see how Christ has fulfilled the Law to perfection.

This is the link God's Kingdom Ministry - Free Will Versus Ownership
Blessings

 

[Shilo]

Re: It's not a question of "free will", It's a question of "Ownership"

Thank you for the link, God bless

 

[2knowhim]

Re: It's not a question of "free will", It's a question of "Ownership"

Your very welcome Shilo


Blessings