Islamic website claims 666 is islam

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midwestbob

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Read the words of this Islamic website claiming the number 666 http://www.66619.org/ or http://www.66619.org/666.htm or http://www.66619.org/thequran.htm

Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Some say this verse proves the beast is not a kingdom but a man because it has the number of a man. But just because it has the number of a man doesn’t mean it is a man. There is no reason to believe a beast/kingdom can’t share a number with a man (kind of like giving your dog/pet a person’s name). Remember this is a spiritual battle that literally takes place in the literal world. In other words a battle between God’s kingdom and satan’s kingdom that takes place right here on earth. While it’s possible that this kingdom is all under one world government it appears to me that it is far more likely to be a religious system that believes the world should all believe the same and is willing to force people to accept it. Interestingly there is and has been for approximately 1400 years been a spiritual kingdom that believes this way. And as that kingdom grows so spreads its law and all it’s members place that law above Scripture and the true God's law. Those who follow this kingdom also believe the year is 1433 not 2011 so as we can see it does seek to change time and law. Not only does it believe that way but it arose out of the same geographic location that Daniel’s leopard, bear and lion kingdoms came from. Is it a coincidence that John also used the terms leopard bear and lion when describing the beast of Rev13, the beast that has the number of a man? Possibly but unlikely. This kingdom teaches the exact opposite of the Gospel. While it is true it targets all who refuse to submit, sura9:29 specifically target Jews and Christians (saints). So is it really any surprise that this spiritual kingdom actually claims the number 666?

A verse from Scripture
Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

And some from the quran

I WILL CAST TERROR INTO THE HEARTS OF THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE. THEREFORE STRIKE OFF THEIR HEADS AND STRIKE OFF EVERY FINGERTIP OF THEM. THIS IS BECAUSE THEY ACTED ADVERSELY TO ALLAH AND HIS MESSENGER; AND WHOEVER ACTS ADVERSELY TO ALLAH AND HIS MESSENGER - THEN SURELY ALLAH IS SEVERE IN REQUITING (EVIL). THIS - TASTE IT, AND (KNOW) THAT FOR THE UNBELIEVERS IS THE PUNISHMENT OF FIRE. O you who believe! When you meet those who disbelieve marching for war, then turn not your backs to them. And whoever shall turn his back to them on that day - unless he turn aside for the sake of fighting or withdraws to a company - then he, indeed, becomes deserving of Allah's wrath, and his abode is hell; and an evil destination shall it be. So you did not slay them, but it was Allah Who slew them and you did not smite when you smote (the enemy) but it was Allah Who smote, and that He might confer upon the believers a good gift from Himself; (8:12-17)

Are we staring the beast in the eye without realizing it?
 
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midwestbob

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Here is another view on 666
1Jn 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world
2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
Can you show me which of the above verses is saying in place of or instead of? Should we lean on our own understanding or on God’s word for the definition of antichrists?

While there are certainly issues with some of the doctrines Catholics hold they do not match what Scripture tells us concerning antichrists.
 
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Crimeny

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Here is another view on 666

i don't think that 666 is a sum, no evidence in scripture, could it not just plainly be 600 60 6 or 666 (straight up no mathematics or super natural equations that somehow tie together everything pointing to 666).
 
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In_Atom

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I'm laughing so hard, I never thought the stupidity of some could reach that level.
 
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In_Atom

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However, I got to give it to you, there really is a verse in the Qur'an, Chapter 8 (verse 12) that says:

''I WILL CAST TERROR INTO THE HEARTS OF THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE. THEREFORE STRIKE OFF THEIR HEADS AND STRIKE OFF EVERY FINGERTIP OF THEM. ''


Surah 8 Al-Anfal (The Spoils of War) 1 of 3 - YouTube ----------- Click, if you wish to read it in full, or listen to it in full, just as I do on a weekly basis.

so what ? I hear it, that verse specifically, recited almost on a weekly basis during my congregational prayers. are you to fear me ? Loll
 
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midwestbob

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However, I got to give it to you, there really is a verse in the Qur'an, Chapter 8 (verse 12) that says:

''I WILL CAST TERROR INTO THE HEARTS OF THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE. THEREFORE STRIKE OFF THEIR HEADS AND STRIKE OFF EVERY FINGERTIP OF THEM. ''


Surah 8 Al-Anfal (The Spoils of War) 1 of 3 - YouTube ----------- Click, if you wish to read it in full, or listen to it in full, just as I do on a weekly basis.

so what ? I hear it, that verse specifically, recited almost on a weekly basis during my congregational prayers. are you to fear me ? Loll
Fear you, no, have pity on you yes. I have pity for all who have been duped into following a cult that rejects all of the prophets and witnesses of the one true God YHWH as revealed in His 1600 year record, to follow the EXACT OPPOSITE based on the 23 year record of A SINGLE 7th century false prophet that islams own books reveal as a mass murdering, female prisoner abusing, terrorist and thief. A cult that requires all its followers to be antichrists, IE eliminating the possibility that they can know God unless they turn from that belief.
Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Why not take a little time and read the gospel of John? What have you got to lose?
Here is an audio King James Bible that you can listen to for free. http://www.audio-bible.com/bible/bible.html you can listen with real player which can be downloaded for free if you don’t already have real player.
 
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peterT

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Are we staring the beast in the eye without realizing it?


Rv13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
 
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peterT

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Read the words of this Islamic website claiming the number 666 http://www.66619.org/ or http://www.66619.org/666.htm or http://www.66619.org/thequran.htm


I WILL CAST TERROR INTO THE HEARTS OF THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE. THEREFORE STRIKE OFF THEIR HEADS AND STRIKE OFF EVERY FINGERTIP OF THEM. THIS IS BECAUSE THEY ACTED ADVERSELY TO ALLAH AND HIS MESSENGER; AND WHOEVER ACTS ADVERSELY TO ALLAH AND HIS MESSENGER - THEN SURELY ALLAH IS SEVERE IN REQUITING (EVIL). THIS - TASTE IT, AND (KNOW) THAT FOR THE UNBELIEVERS IS THE PUNISHMENT OF FIRE. ?
Any psycho could have don these websites, and you want to take then a gospel?
It sounds like you are teaching fear instead of faith. Quoting stuff from the ungodly instead of quoting things from the bible. Looking to the words of man to see the future instead of looking to the word of God.

Teaching the brethren to fear is strong in this thread.

Isaiah 59:19 So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him.
 
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midwestbob

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Any psycho could have don these websites, and you want to take then a gospel?
This 666 "miracle" is found on a Turkish website that seems to have embellished Rashad Khalifa's number prime number gematria. The Submission sect (Bahattin Uzunkaya), of islam considers the number 666 as well as the number 19, to demonstrate the perfection of the Koran and the proof that Muhammad is the prophet of Allah.
Don’t take my word for it take a few minutes and do a little research and you will find that website isn’t from just any psycho.

It sounds like you are teaching fear instead of faith. Quoting stuff from the ungodly instead of quoting things from the bible.
The object of this thread is not to promote fear or hatred but instead to educate people about the truth when it comes to islam. Sadly many in today’s churches do exactly as Christ warned against in Mark7:13. As a result they are so busy looking over their shoulder for some silver screen boogeyman that they fail to see the beast standing in front of them.

Looking to the words of man to see the future instead of looking to the word of God.
Your accusation is baseless. I don’t believe prophecy was given so that we can use it to tell the future. I do believe in using fulfilled prophecy to verify the truth of the Scriptures.

"The folly of interpreters has been to foretell times and things by this prophecy [Revelation], as if God designed to make them prophets. By this rashness they have not only exposed themselves, but brought the prophecy also into contempt. The design of God was much otherwise. He gave this and the prophecies of the Old Testament, not to gratify men's curiosities by enabling them to foreknow things, but that after they were fulfilled they might be interpreted by the event, and his own providence, not the interpreters', be then manifested thereby to the world. For the event of things predicted many ages before will then be a convincing argument that the world is governed by Providence." - Sir Isaac Newton

I base my beliefs on fulfilled prophecy and use it to prove the truth of the Scriptures. I rarely waste time in Christian forums because most are so blinded by doctrine that they fail to see the truth even when it stares them in the face. I prefer to spend my time in muslim websites trying to expose the fallacy of the quran. Before you can get a muslim to take an honest open look at the gospel you must first show them the error of following islam which is a cult (false religion) that is the EXACT OPPOSITE (of what Christ taught) based on the 23 year record of A SINGLE 7th century false prophet that islams own books reveal as a mass murdering, female prisoner abusing, terrorist and thief. To do this one must be informed about islam and their beliefs.

Teaching the brethren to fear is strong in this thread.
Isaiah 59:19 So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him.
Why? The thread isn’t about teaching fear but educating people and exposing the truth about islam. We have no need to fear we have the sword of the spirit, and the armour of God.
Eph 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
Eph 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles
of the devil.
Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against
powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in
high places.
Eph 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to
withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
Eph 6:14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the
breastplate of righteousness;
Eph 6:15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
Eph 6:16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all
the fiery darts of the wicked.
Eph 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years

I do not fear be being “ beheaded for the witness of Jesus” I would consider it an honor, it is a very small price to pay for the gift that God gave when “he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
Joh 3:16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
When God decides he no longer has a use for me here on earth and calls me home, then I would consider it an honor to die for the testimony of Jesus regardless of the method.
 
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peterT

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This 666 "miracle" is found on a Turkish website that seems to have embellished Rashad Khalifa's number prime number gematria. The Submission sect (Bahattin Uzunkaya), of islam considers the number 666 as well as the number 19, to demonstrate the perfection of the Koran and the proof that Muhammad is the prophet of Allah.
Don’t take my word for it take a few minutes and do a little research and you will find that website isn’t from just any psycho.



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