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Charity is the key and the first thing mentioned in chapter 14, which U cannot give to Urself. If U read chapter 13 it explains what happens to good intentions that are misplaced! devil tongues are nothing more than lies. Ex... it is more than hard to use Ur head to invent truth... its impossible. For any person to take a motion of truth, they need The Holy Spirit of The Lord God Most High Yahshua ben Yosef Ha' Mashiach ben Yahweh Yehovah Elohim!!! Here in lies my point: People (thats plural for person) have told me many times before, that the TRUE names above all names are devil talk. This is the danger with "unknown" tongues. It isn't even meant to be used in the presence of other believers.
Well, private tongues isn't really giving to yourself. Tongues is praying to God, and you can pray in tongues to God for other people. And then God gives back to us. That is hardly selfish. You aren't praying to yourself. Selfish is the people who do not wish the spiritual gifts to be used. Not saying that is you, you are open to these things. Some reject the spiritual gifts altogether. Anyways, we are told to take care of ourselves and love ourselves. We are to love our neighbour as we love ourselves. If we don't love and take care of ourselves, we won't have love or care for another. For even our own selves are owned by God and we are stewards of our life.
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I did actually mention these faith tester in the testimony. I had two other experiences that were, to say the least, glorious in nature. One night on the way home from chirch, the mother of a friend tried to convince me that I didn't have the holy spirit because I didn't speak in tongues on the pastor's command. I wanted to know why people hide behind their faith. I asked if she had ever seen a shooting star. She said no... & started calling it witchcraft. Of course I found this funny because, Mark 13:25 even say: "the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.", & Revelation 6:13 says: "and the stars of the sky fell to the earth, as a fig tree casts its unripe figs when shaken by a great wind."..............
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While we were arguing about what constitutes witchcraft, a shooting star flew across the sky to the right of the car. shooting stars are no big deal to me, but it was my friend's first time seeing one. Her mother never saw it cuz she was too busy being obnoxious. Doing stuff like talking down to me, turning up music, laughing, or singing if I tried to speak, ect. To this very day, that woman believes I don't have the spirit, but her daughter has started watching life more closely now. Exact same conversation, different day: this lady pushed the envelop this time. She managed to upset me, cause she wanted to show me that she was right & I was wrong. thats when a dove bird flew beside the passenger seat window just until my temper faded. & then flow away. She missed that one too...................
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What would you think comes first ? The real item or the counteirfeit. Of course the real dollar bill would have to be made beforer the counterfeit can be made. And the closer to the real thing the more effective the fake. We just need to go to Gods word and find the plain and easy explanaition for this matter.
ct 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
Act 2:5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.
Act 2:6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.
Act 2:7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?
Act 2:8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?
When filled with the Spirit these men started speaking in different tongues.Note that it is the tongues that the audience were born with. Jesus told them to go to every nation and tongue and preach the gospel .That wont be possible if you can speak only Hebrew.Satan made a counterfeit for every thing God made and alot of us are falling for it.
ct 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
Act 2:5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.
Act 2:6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.
Act 2:7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?
Act 2:8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?
When filled with the Spirit these men started speaking in different tongues.Note that it is the tongues that the audience were born with. Jesus told them to go to every nation and tongue and preach the gospel .That wont be possible if you can speak only Hebrew.Satan made a counterfeit for every thing God made and alot of us are falling for it.
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If we were speaking in Hebrew those names might mean something. Proper names are often transliterated for pronunciation in another language. Sometimes they are even translated.
The NT does not give us the name that was used for God in ancient Israel. The term Elohim means God. Adonay means lord. The term theos means God. Kurios means lord.
The NT does not give us the name that was used for God in ancient Israel. The term Elohim means God. Adonay means lord. The term theos means God. Kurios means lord.
Good point, I suggest you take heed to it yourself.
By the way you never stated what you wanted us to prove biblically, that you believe we cannot. I can support tongues used to speak to others that speak a language that you don't, tongues and interpretation to edify the Church, and personal prayer tongues for self edification with scripture. Which one do you not believe in?
By the way you never stated what you wanted us to prove biblically, that you believe we cannot. I can support tongues used to speak to others that speak a language that you don't, tongues and interpretation to edify the Church, and personal prayer tongues for self edification with scripture. Which one do you not believe in?
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Tongues are for your edification, not the church.
Tongues are for your edification, not the church.
You both are correct then is one type of tongues (which needs an interpreter that is intended to edify the Church, and another that need no interpretation that is for self edification and is between you and God not to be sooken aloud in public.
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