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[FONT=&quot]I found this on another site what do you all think about this post? Personally I thought it was great.


This is a message to all Christians.

The majority of you are going to hell. Am I a false prophet? Am I telling lies? Do I really believe in Jesus? Yes I do. I believe that Jesus died on the cross to free us. I believe he is the only way to salvation. But, salvation is something few people will achieve. Why?

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]MY PROOF:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]< Matthew 7:20-27 >
“Therefore by their fruits you will know them. Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’ Therefore whoever hears these sayings of Mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man who built his house on the rock:and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it did not fall, for it was founded on the rock. But everyone who hears these sayings of Mine, and does not do them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand:and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it fell. And great was its fall.” [/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]< 1 John 2:1-5 >[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“My little children, these things I write to you, so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world. Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. He who says, ‘I know Him,’ and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him.”[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Heb 10:26-27 states, "For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries."


[/FONT][FONT=&quot]< Revelation 3:14-22 > [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]"And to the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write, 'These things says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God: 'I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot. So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth. Because you say, 'I am rich, have become wealthy, and have need of nothing'—and do not know that you are wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked—I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire, that you may be rich; and white garments, that you may be clothed, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see. As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent. Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me. To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.' He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Philippians 2:12-13 (New International Version)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] 12Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, 13for it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his good purpose.


Are you scared? If you do not believe what the bible says, you are probably not a true christian. And if you do believe these verses, you must be trembling with fear.[/FONT]
 
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MaggieMye

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THEREFORE...we work out our salvation with fear and trembling!
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It's terrible. Full of judgement, the bad kind.

The majority of you are going to hell.

Depends who the "you" is he is referring to . Muslims? Catholics? Mormons? Atheists?

Am I a false prophet? Am I telling lies? Do I really believe in Jesus? Yes I do. I believe that Jesus died on the cross to free us. I believe he is the only way to salvation. But, salvation is something few people will achieve. Why?
Salvation is not really something one "achieves", God achieves it for us.


Just remember those who write these things about "few" being saved, ALWAYs consider themselves to be one of the saved ones, just remember that.
 
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ashieldoffaith

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I say the guy is going to answer to God for calling himself a prophet. This person is not a prophet sent by God, but mearly a scripture thrower and he tries to use fear and intimidation. This is NOT the way of God!


Test his Spirit
 
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Lol I googled for this post to see if it's on another site. I only found it on one other site. There are links at the bottom of the article to some ministry. All the links to the 'ministry' are broken and their site doesn't load.
 
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I thought that would be your repsonses...lol. I agree with him most people claiming Christianity are going to Hell. You cannot live in sin Monday through Saturday go to Church ion Sunday and think your going to slide into Heaven. Can our works save us? NO, but they certainly can condemn us.
 
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ashieldoffaith

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watchmen... I can only say one thing

I love ya ;)
 
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doubleedge

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watchmen, MaggieMye, & ashieldoffaith... there is no need to fear & tremble, for Ur faith is strong. As for the rest of U... who made U guys believe the Sabbath Day is sunday? Doesn't anybody know sunday is the FIRST day of the week? The Bible even says that the sun was created on the FIRST day (Genesis 1:5), hence the name SUNday! God says we must work & rest, saving The Sabbath Day for Him. This is the fourth commandment! lucifer lies to, & confuses man about the work week, for he NEVER kneels, & NEVER rests (2 Corinthians 11:14). God is watching... & He will judge! Not even santa clause is safe, lol... LOL!!! Here is the GOOD NEWS: Followers of The Holy Spirit (persecuted for their faith), WILL be victorious over followers of religion (who live not by faith but signs).
 
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doubleedge

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If EVERYBODY loved their enemy, enemies would cease to exist!!! God loves us ALL, but He will NOT spare the rod!!!
 
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doubleedge

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The rod of His judgement comes swift (1 Thessalonians 5)!
 
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Slepsog4

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Doubleedge wrote:

The Bible even says that the sun was created on the FIRST day (Genesis 1:5)
Ugh! Wrong.

Light was created on the first day (1.5)

The sun, moon, and stars were created on day 4 (1.14-19)

The 1st day of the week and the 7th day of the week are clearly distinct.

Under the Law of Moses for Ancient Israel the 7th day was the Sabbath, a day of rest. This was a covenant element for them based on two things, the creation event and their freedom from Egyptian slavery.

We, as Christians, are not under that covenant Law. We are under the covenant of Christ for the church which does not contain a Sabbath ordinance.
 
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Doubleedge wrote:



Ugh! Wrong.

Light was created on the first day (1.5)

The sun, moon, and stars were created on day 4 (1.14-19)

The 1st day of the week and the 7th day of the week are clearly distinct.

Under the Law of Moses for Ancient Israel the 7th day was the Sabbath, a day of rest. This was a covenant element for them based on two things, the creation event and their freedom from Egyptian slavery.

We, as Christians, are not under that covenant Law. We are under the covenant of Christ for the church which does not contain a Sabbath ordinance.
You are right and wrong. You are right the sun was not created until the fourth day. You are wrong to think we should not keep the Sabbath or any other of the 10 commandments. Are we under the Jewish Civil law no? Are we still obligated as Christians to keeps God's moral law? Absolutely.

However this is off subject. The question is can one live in continuous, unrepentant sin and still be a Christian? I say NO.
 
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You are right and wrong. You are right the sun was not created until the fourth day. You are wrong to think we should not keep the Sabbath or any other of the 10 commandments. Are we under the Jewish Civil law no? Are we still obligated as Christians to keeps God's moral law? Absolutely.

However this is off subject. The question is can one live in continuous, unrepentant sin and still be a Christian? I say NO.
Amen to that. I don't understand why saying such things makes people think we say works save us... We know God saves us. I don't think this post is meant to make everyone seeking after God afraid that they're "not doing good enough". Of course we're imperfect creatures. But we do need to strive for perfection within Christ. If you have a heart after God, don't worry about this post. You might fall once in a while (we're human, and it's bound to happen). The point is we can't just live "blah" comfortable lives, doing whatever we want because "Jesus will forgive me". Yes, Jesus is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, which is so awesome! But he gave us this promise as encouragement to come back wholeheartedly to Him even if we fail, NOT so that we'd fail on purpose because He promised he'd always forgive us. Then, as Hebrews 10:26-27 says "there no longer remains sacrifice for sins". Scary, no? Once again, I don't think we should be living in fear... but if you're willfully doing what you want because you know Jesus will forgive you... you can't be forgiven. A scary thought indeed... (that said, if you turn back wholeheartedly, and repent that you willfully sinned, I believe God still forgives you. The point is about being truly repentant) I think this is just addressed to the Christians who've grown believing that Jesus is merely a convenient tool to get rid of guilt... not their beloved saviour who they would give up everything for

meh, sorry for rambling...
 
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Amen to that. I don't understand why saying such things makes people think we say works save us... We know God saves us. I don't think this post is meant to make everyone seeking after God afraid that they're "not doing good enough". Of course we're imperfect creatures. But we do need to strive for perfection within Christ. If you have a heart after God, don't worry about this post. You might fall once in a while (we're human, and it's bound to happen). The point is we can't just live "blah" comfortable lives, doing whatever we want because "Jesus will forgive me". Yes, Jesus is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, which is so awesome! But he gave us this promise as encouragement to come back wholeheartedly to Him even if we fail, NOT so that we'd fail on purpose because He promised he'd always forgive us. Then, as Hebrews 10:26-27 says "there no longer remains sacrifice for sins". Scary, no? Once again, I don't think we should be living in fear... but if you're willfully doing what you want because you know Jesus will forgive you... you can't be forgiven. A scary thought indeed... (that said, if you turn back wholeheartedly, and repent that you willfully sinned, I believe God still forgives you. The point is about being truly repentant) I think this is just addressed to the Christians who've grown believing that Jesus is merely a convenient tool to get rid of guilt... not their beloved saviour who they would give up everything for

meh, sorry for rambling...
I agree with you post we will fall and if we are truly repentant God will forgive us. And believing we should live sinlessly is not works salvation because it is not our works. We in our ownselves could not live sinlessly. Only through he empowerment of the Holy Spirit because of the indwelling of Christ in our hearts are we able to not sin. So even though we should strive for perfection it is God's work in us that enables us to so do, not of ourselves.
 
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I agree with you post we will fall and if we are truly repentant God will forgive us. And believing we should live sinlessly is not works salvation because it is not our works. We in our ownselves could not live sinlessly. Only through he empowerment of the Holy Spirit because of the indwelling of Christ in our hearts are we able to not sin. So even though we should strive for perfection it is God's work in us that enables us to so do, not of ourselves.
Yes! That encapsulates it perfectly!
 
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doubleedge

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Now we're getting somewhere!!! That is ALL sound reasoning, but it suggests that The SON of God is NOT the light of the world (which He is - John 1:1-10) as genesis 1:2,3 says, but rather lucifer the morning star (Isaiah 14:12-15)! - day 1: genesis 1:2-5 - day 2: genesis 1:8 - day 3: genesis 1:13 - day 4: genesis 1:19 - day 5: genesis 1:23 - day 6: genesis 1:31 - day 7: genesis 2:2,3! Discernment of manifestation is the key here! Genesis 1 is God's Word (John 1:1-10). Genesis 2 is the fulfillment or manifestation of His word!
 
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And believing we should live sinlessly is not works salvation because it is not our works.
It takes works to not sin, therefore you are preaching works salvation. You see an old woman laying face down on the side of the road with a bag of groceries laying strewn all around her. Do you do nothing, move on, and pretend like you didn't see her? Obviously there is a moral imperative to help her in this situation, if you do nothing at all you've sinned. If you do help her then that is a work, regardless of whether or not it's something most people would do without thinking about it, and somehow this has enabled your salvation. Whether you say that's earning salvation by works or not is simply a matter of semantics at this point. If we are saved by living sinless lives, regardless of whether or not it was made possible with God's help, then we have reason to boast because we always had the free will to decide whether or not we would sin. Either we are either redeemed by faith or we aren't, but there is no room for gray area where we can "kinda sin sometimes," yet we're still saved because we had faith and didn't sin with enough intent. If we are condemned by a decision to sin then we are saved by works, by a never-failing decision not to sin and to do every work required to avoid sin, that is to say, to attain the glory of God in everything we do.
 
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doubleedge

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What I've tried to say is that The Sabbath Day begins Friday evening (around the time of) 6:00 and ends Saturday evening around the same time. My reasoning for this is that the first hour of the day is sunrise, & the first hour of the evening is sundown, so Friday evening is the end of the sixth day, & beginning of The Sabbath (search the scriptures WITH MEDITATION)!
 
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doubleedge

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WHO AMONG US IS WITHOUT SIN??? U people sound like Matthew 12:2!!! God knows what U hide in Ur heart. U must plant the seed of His word on fertile ground (Matthew 13:1-23)!
 
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