The Gospel: Good News or Bad News?

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I took this from Wikipedia:

The word gospel derives from the Old English gōd-spell [1] (rarely godspel), meaning "good news" or "glad tidings".
Why is it so many people turn the good news of the Gospel into bad news? All that is required of us is that we repent:

From that time Jesus began to preach, saying, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matt 4:17 RSV
 
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Because people can't give what they don't have,
even Christians.

Blessings
 

DinoDillinger

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From that time Jesus began to preach, saying, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matt 4:17 RSV
Responsibility does not require ability. Jesus said No man can come to me unless the Father who sent Me draws him.
 

lil_christian

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Look it's people's choice whether they believe in Jesus or not. Or do you really think that God makes them say no or yes to the Gospel? I'm with resurrection on this one.
 
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Responsibility does not require ability. Jesus said No man can come to me unless the Father who sent Me draws him.
Jesus told us to repent. He wouldn’t command us to do something if it was impossible.
 

DinoDillinger

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Jesus told us to repent. He wouldn’t command us to do something if it was impossible.
Matt 19 21 Jesus said to him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.”
22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.
23 Then Jesus said to His disciples, “Assuredly, I say to you that it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 And again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”
25 When His disciples heard it, they were greatly astonished, saying, “Who then can be saved?”
26 But Jesus looked at them and said to them, “With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”

Repentance is a gift of God. Faith is a gift of God. Eternal life is a gift of God.
 
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30And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent(Acts 17:30).

God commands all men every where to repent,so repentance is for all people.

Many are called but few are chosen,which means that God knows the condition of a person's heart,and if going in the right direction,God will call them and the Father will draw them,then if they keep doing right God will choose them.

God does the choosing on earth,after He calls them.God calls them on earth,and then chooses them.

How can the wicked be judged as wicked,if they were chosen not to be saved before they are born,then it is not their fault,but they have a choice and then if they refuse,it is their fault.
 

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Prov. 16: 4 The LORD has made all for Himself,
Yes, even the wicked for the day of doom.
 
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Matt 19 21 Jesus said to him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.”
22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.
23 Then Jesus said to His disciples, “Assuredly, I say to you that it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 And again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”
25 When His disciples heard it, they were greatly astonished, saying, “Who then can be saved?”
26 But Jesus looked at them and said to them, “With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”

Repentance is a gift of God. Faith is a gift of God. Eternal life is a gift of God.
To repent means to stop sinning. We must put forth effort to accomplish that.
 

DinoDillinger

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To repent means to stop sinning. We must put forth effort to accomplish that.
I believe the context would dictate that repent means to stop disbelieving the gospel. To have a change of heart about God and yourself. To abandon your righteousness for the righteousness of God. To cease working for your salvation. I believe that you can make repentance and faith a 'work'. I would say that unless the Holy Spirit guides you otherwise that is man's natural disposition to the gospel, but it leads to destruction. You can not stop sinning, you are sin. Whosoever calls on the name of the Lord will be saved, how can you call on Him unless you believe? You are powerless, humble yourself and the Lord will lift you up. Be afflicted, weep and mourn. You must be born again.
 
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If we could choose to believe in Jesus Christ,
Then why did we wait so long to do it?

If we could repent and stop sinning and put forth
the effort to accomplish that,

Then Christ was Crucified in Vain.
If we could do anything apart from Him,
Then He would not say that, "Without Me you can do nothing"

Joh 15:5I am the vine, yearethe branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.


2Ti 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

2Ti 2:26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.
 
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I believe the context would dictate that repent means to stop disbelieving the gospel. To have a change of heart about God and yourself. To abandon your righteousness for the righteousness of God. To cease working for your salvation. I believe that you can make repentance and faith a 'work'. I would say that unless the Holy Spirit guides you otherwise that is man's natural disposition to the gospel, but it leads to destruction. You can not stop sinning, you are sin. Whosoever calls on the name of the Lord will be saved, how can you call on Him unless you believe? You are powerless, humble yourself and the Lord will lift you up. Be afflicted, weep and mourn. You must be born again.
Experience tells me that when I don’t sin, life is quite beautiful. When I do sin, life is quite unpleasant.
 
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Jesus' experience would contradict yours.
Jesus told us to repent. That means we are to stop sinning. I have found that when I don’t sin, life is great. When I do sin, life is very unpleasant. Therefore I attempt not to sin.
 

lil_christian

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If we could choose to believe in Jesus Christ,
Then why did we wait so long to do it?

If we could repent and stop sinning and put forth
the effort to accomplish that,

Then Christ was Crucified in Vain.
If we could do anything apart from Him,
Then He would not say that, "Without Me you can do nothing"
The reason we waited so long is because we didn't realize how simple it truly is...letting go and letting God.

Christ would NOT have crucified in vain if we had choice. Christ crucifying that man could be saved is definitely not dying in vain. I don't know WHY you'd think that in order for Jesus to not die in vain that He'd have to choose who got saved....makes NO sense.

And we can't do much without God. But Jesus was NOT talking about salvation when he said "Without Me you can do nothing." He meant when it all boils down to it...without Jesus we're miserable and condemned. And THAT'S why Jesus died. So we could be saved from condemnation. For God loved the WORLD, He gave His only begotten Son. That WHOSOEVER believes in Him WILL NOT perish!
 

Grandpa

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The reason we waited so long is because we didn't realize how simple it truly is...letting go and letting God.

Christ would NOT have crucified in vain if we had choice. Christ crucifying that man could be saved is definitely not dying in vain. I don't know WHY you'd think that in order for Jesus to not die in vain that He'd have to choose who got saved....makes NO sense.

And we can't do much without God. But Jesus was NOT talking about salvation when he said "Without Me you can do nothing." He meant when it all boils down to it...without Jesus we're miserable and condemned. And THAT'S why Jesus died. So we could be saved from condemnation. For God loved the WORLD, He gave His only begotten Son. That WHOSOEVER believes in Him WILL NOT perish!

I guess I don't understand what you are saying. What about Jesus does a person have to believe in order not to perish? And then how does one start doing it?