Sin is a mental illness

[AnandaHya]

Generational curses or sin (GCS) is a total fabrication orchestrated by demons to keep believers living in guilt and condemnation and thinking that they need to be delivered from these in order to be free. What happens is that believers struggle with certain sins that they believe to be passed down from previous generations and actually start looking for these sins as curses that were dominate in their family's past and start doing what the scriptures forbid them to do in searching them out (Job 10:6, Ps 64:6, Prov 25:2). The only thing that God wants us to be occupied with in relationship to any form of sin, retro or otherwise, is that they have been crucified and put away through the blood of Christ.

Demons take advantage of this doctrine they have fabricated to keep believers and others in bondage to these forms of sin by getting the believer to take his eye off Christ and onto himself (Col 3:1,2). The letter of the law is legislated by those claiming to have spiritual discernment and used to reinforce and strengthen these forms of sin in the believer's life (1Cor 15:56). And through this legislated law of their own understanding and through the counsel of others that call themselves your friend (like they did with Job - Job 2:11), they get you to consider the depths of these sins through ungodly counsel (Job 42:7, Ps 1:1). Anyone can label a stronghold in the believer's life as a (GCS), and the believer has to admit to it because they are experiencing that stronghold, but that is identifying sin outside the cross and outside His death, burial and resurrection. What these so-called friends are doing through their legislated and spiritual understanding is giving ungodly counsel that imputes sin to those having problems with strongholds.

If a believer has a stronghold in their life that is bringing them into captivity to sin you don't charge them with a (GCS). Getting someone to admit to a stronghold of sin is not how you get them to overcome it. What you do is to get them in a place where they can hear the word of God on a daily basis and minister grace to them. They need to transformed by the renewing of their mind and that will not happen through spiritual legalism and ungodly counsel. They need a steady diet of what God thinks about them and what His thoughts are toward them. We are to magnify Christ and Him crucified through the word and the Spirit of life to deliver them from the body of sin and death. Jesus Christ never had a deliverance service for anyone with (GCS), but the masses came to Him and He healed them and when it came to the issue of sin, He preached the word and gave them the power of mercy and grace to walk in and be free from the captivity of sin.

thanks Red. I agree that "Generational curses or sin (GCS) is a total fabrication orchestrated by demons to keep believers living in guilt and condemnation and thinking that they need to be delivered from these in order to be free."

and that sin is a mental stronghold that needs to be torn down.

However I don't think it harms a person to admit to having one and identifying what it is. It is when they try to make it that person's responsibility to do something about it because have faith in Jesus and His redeeming work on the cross does it become an issue.

I think it would be find to say for example "I have a problem with drinking and so did my parents, but I place it before Jesus. Please Lord help me to overcome it"

or something like that. we can do nothing without the help of the Holy Spirit and acknowledging His mercy and grace is always a wonderful thing to do. I think a lot of people underestimate the power of heartfelt prayer.

I believe the confession of sins should be a private thing between the person and God. Everyone else can pray with and for the person but don't need to know the grimy details. all they need to know is their brother or sister needs them and their prayers. God knows the heart and minds of those who pray to Him and He can transform it for His glory.

hope you are having a blessed day

 

[alichristianlass96]

OP.
Mental illness IS NOT a sin. mental illness is caused by chemical imbalance. Unless you have mental illness your self you will never understand. this just go to show that people like me who is a christian and suffers from a mental illness get toss to aside.

 

[JFSurvivor]

Notice I said Sin is a mental illness, NOT that mental illness is a sin.

there is a BIG difference.

I was driving to drop my daughter off for her preschool a few days ago and had this wonderful discourse in my head about it, but now that I sit down to write it all out, my mind draws a blank.

I guess I'll ramble and pray and perhaps it will come back......

Dear Heavenly Father:

You sent Jesus to be the Light of the world and told us to be children of the day and not the night. Help shine your light upon our lives and our minds and our hearts. Words can only convey so much, what we need is YOUR Holy Spirit to work among us. Please God chase away the misunderstanding, the hurt feelings, the impatience, the anger, the bitterness, the unforgiveness and the inability to Listen and See the heart of Your Words Lord. Help us to see the Love and mercy of your eternal plan, revealed to us in Your Holy Bible. Give us a heart that is humble and contrite and not bitter and judgmental and unforgiving. Lord give us wisdom from above and take from us all the worldly knowledge the does nothing but build up pride and idols and strongholds that war against You Lord. God help us to remove the sin in our lives and realize the Sin is not an action but a Mental disease the cause people to turn away from YOU and Your light.

Lord I still don't know what to say. So I guess I'll just post some scriptures. Please bless us and may the meditation of our hearts and the words and our actions be pleasing in your sight. In Jesus name we pray, Amen.

2 Corinthians 10

1 Now I, Paul, myself am pleading with you by the meekness and gentleness of Christ—who in presence am lowly among you, but being absent am bold toward you. 2 But I beg you that when I am present I may not be bold with that confidence by which I intend to be bold against some, who think of us as if we walked according to the flesh. 3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh. 4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, 5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ, 6 and being ready to punish all disobedience when your obedience is fulfilled.


anyway what are your thoughts on the subject?


oh I remember now some of it.

I was reading a post on here about how some people had mental illness and there was a mention of the messiah complex, etc and it got me to thinking and praying because a lot of people close to me have mental or physical illnesses and I have considered a job in the field of special education so I wondered what the Bible and God had to say about the subject and the thought that "Sin is mental illness that all of humanity is infected with" entered my mind.

"How can people intentionally do things to put themselves farther away from God? how can they indulge in activities that injure themselves and those around them? how can they truly love others as God does when they don't truly love themselves. it is like cutting themselves over and over again to see if God's mercy will allow the cut to heal or if God will allow them to Die this time instead. Or a drug addict with the heroin needle. Sin is addictive and people don't go cold turkey without have physical withdrawal symptoms. its insanity but it is the state of an unregenerated person to be addicted to sin. research addicts and you will see the pattern amplified but it is the same. in the beginning they think they can conquer the world and can quit at any time, and then when they try, they can't they don't control the drug the drug controls their life. sin is the same it is a bondage. it is awful. God please help us overcome sin and tear down any strongholds that war against YOUR Truth and knowledge. Jesus we need YOU!!!"

anyway that is my ramble.

lol this is one of the places I feel like its ok to ramble and people might actually listen. thanks.

Why are we waiting for TOMMORROW? Let us repent and walk in the Spirit TODAY while Today is still here.

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Hebrews 3

12 Beware, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God; 13 but exhort one another daily, while it is called “Today,” lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. 14 For we have become partakers of Christ if we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast to the end, 15 while it is said:



“ Today, if you will hear His voice,
Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion.”[c]

I see your heart is in the right place and your intentions are good however you need to do some research on mental illness. I really think you need to actually sit down and read up on this topic with an open mind and heart.

 

[JFSurvivor]

Wish that's all it was. Then I could take a pill for it, too!

You can't just take a pill for mental illness. I WISH it were that simple lol But I do see your point. Good thing we have Jesus!

 

[alichristianlass96]

JFSurvivor: I have already done my research on mental health. And I suffer from a mental illness.

 

[JFSurvivor]

OK well I'm confused then...are you saying that sin itself is a type of mental illness? Like depression, anxiety disorder, sin, PTSD, ect?

 

[alichristianlass96]

no. I'm not.

 

[BradC]

OP.
Mental illness IS NOT a sin. mental illness is caused by chemical imbalance. Unless you have mental illness your self you will never understand. this just go to show that people like me who is a christian and suffers from a mental illness get toss to aside.

Mental illness can be the result of two distinct areas that make up the spirit, soul and body of a person. One is the sick head and faint heart that was told to Isaiah in (1:5,6) and from that an individual can suffer from mental illness. The other is the fact that we are flesh and there are weaknesses of the flesh that involve various parts of the body of flesh including the brain that can suffer from imbalances caused by a multiple number of things which includes genetics, development and head trauma. As far as any of these relating to sin, you have to seriously consider that all these, whether in the head or in the heart of the body of flesh, are all dysfunctions and dispositions that are a result of the fall. They are to be treated in different manners according to their illness but they all come under the fall of man within the garden and without where God made the woman and created the man (Gen 2).

 

[JFSurvivor]

Ok well can you maybe try to explain a bit more? I really am trying to understand what you are saying but I just don't get it.

 

[secularhermit]

@ Ananda

What if it were more physical than soul/mental?

I don´t know to what extend Paul knew it inside him (Rom 7:17 So now it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me. ) but, it seemed he assumed little responsibility when blaming it, instead of acknowledging our human sinning nature.


Rom 7:19 For I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not want is what I keep on doing.

Sin or evil seem to come along with body and mind but, as Jesus Himself said, His goodness wasn´t Him, but God doing His things inside Him.


Joh 14:10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority, butthe Father who dwells in me does his works.

 

[CRC]

Some two thousand years ago, the apostle Paul expressed frustration over the fact that ‘the good that he wished he did not do, but the bad that he did not wish was what he practiced.’ (Romans 7:19) If we are honest, we have to admit that our personal situation is similar. Perhaps we desire to live by the Ten Commandments or by some other standard of conduct, but like it or not, we all fall short. It is not that we deliberately choose to violate a norm, but we are simply weak. What is the explanation? Paul himself gives the answer: “If, now, what I do not wish is what I do, the one working it out is no longer I, but the sin dwelling in me.”—Romans 7:20.
Like Paul, all humanity is afflicted by innate weaknesses—evidence of inherent sin and imperfection. “All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,” said the apostle. What is the cause of this condition? Paul continues: “Through one man [Adam] sin entered into the world and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men because they had all sinned.”—Romans 3:23; 5:12.
Although many reject the idea that transgression on the part of our first parents alienated us from God and caused us to lose original perfection, this is, indeed, what the Bible teaches. Jesus, by quoting from the first chapters of Genesis as authority, showed that he believed in the account of Adam and Eve.—Genesis 1:27; 2:24; 5:2; Matthew 19:1-5.
One of the pillars of the Bible’s message is that Jesus came to earth to redeem from their sinful condition those exercising faith in him. (John 3:16) Our future life prospects depend on our accepting God’s means of rescuing appreciative mankind from a predicament over which they have no control. But if we do not have a clear grasp of what sin is from God’s viewpoint, we cannot appreciate the means that he has established to save us from it. Sin affects every nerve and fiber of our being. It is in the very fabric of DNA that we all received from Adam. (Romans 5:12)

 

[MaggieMye]

I would venture to say that sin is EMOTIONAL illness; people KNOW that sin is sin, but it is their EMOTIONS....THEIR HEART, that rules the mind. And we all know that scripture tells us that our hearts are deceitful.

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

I would venture to say that sin is EMOTIONAL illness; people KNOW that sin is sin, but it is their EMOTIONS....THEIR HEART, that rules the mind. And we all know that scripture tells us that our hearts are deceitful.

True. But it our emotions that cause us to act in the first place. All behavior can be shown on the Cognitive Behavioral Therapy triangle, whether it comes out positively or negatively.



We have a situation. We have an automatic thought about it. This thought generates a feeling/emotion. The emotion triggers an action/behavior. Each action/behavior has a consequence. Every single thing we do can be thought of in terms of that natural process.

Incidentally, CBT was developed by Dr. Aaron Beck, a Christian psychologist who took biblical principles that defined human behavior and suggested processes to change negative behaviors. He called it "CBT" because he knew calling it "Biblical Behavioral Therapy" would never fly with the American Psychiatric Association.

 

[john832]

Actually, this is not complicated at all...

1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

 

[alichristianlass96]

for those of you who think mental illness is a sin. then take a look at this ...................
What Is a Chemical Imbalance? (with pictures)



This will show you what mental illness is.