How does God feel about transgenders?

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Nov 28, 2011
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I actually posted this in the "Teens" Forums. But I'd like people over the teen age to comment as well.

So head on over there!
 
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jimmydiggs

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How are we defining transgender?
 
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GCP

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HE DIED FOR US ALL.WE SHOULD PRAY FOR THOSE SOULS THAT GOD WILL OPEN THEIR EYES THAT THEY WILL RECIEVE THE TRUTH WHICH IS THE WORD OF GOD GOD CAN CHANGE ANYONE WHO WANTS CHANGE.GOD LOVES US ALL .HE HATES SIN
 
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jimmydiggs

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HE DIED FOR US ALL.WE SHOULD PRAY FOR THOSE SOULS THAT GOD WILL OPEN THEIR EYES THAT THEY WILL RECIEVE THE TRUTH WHICH IS THE WORD OF GOD GOD CAN CHANGE ANYONE WHO WANTS CHANGE.GOD LOVES US ALL .HE HATES SIN
JUST A PIECE OF ADVISE FROM ONE CHRISTIAN TO ANOTHER. TAP YOUR CAPSLOCK KEY JUST ONCE PLEASE. ON A WEB-BASED FORUM SUCH AS THIS, IT GIVE THE APPEARANCE THAT YOU ARE YELLING IN YOUR POST.

THANK YOU,
DUSTIN
 
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JUST A PIECE OF ADVISE FROM ONE CHRISTIAN TO ANOTHER. TAP YOUR CAPSLOCK KEY JUST ONCE PLEASE. ON A WEB-BASED FORUM SUCH AS THIS, IT GIVE THE APPEARANCE THAT YOU ARE YELLING IN YOUR POST.

THANK YOU,
DUSTIN
I think she meant to yell.
 
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MaggieMye

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To answer the question: How would YOU feel if you made something beautiful and then someone came along and altered it? Or if the thing you created decided it was more wise than you or could improve on that perfect thing. How would YOU feel?

God does not like it one bit. And that is not to say that He does not love the transgenders, for He most certainly does. But the bottom line is that if they are having sex with 1.) someone they are not married to, they are going to hell for the Scripture tells us that fornicators do not access the Kingdom of Heaven; or 2.) if they are married to someone of the same sex as they were when they were born, they are going to hell because they cannot be Biblically married to a member of the same. sex.
AND it is not that God 'sends' them to hell as it is that He has no choice but to allow the devil to TAKE them their because of their own choices. When a person defies God and His written word and breaks His commandments, it is a choice and those choices can and will afford one eternity in hell. It is NEVER GOD"S CHOICE that any human choose hell, but HE will not violate their choice to 'do their own thing' or not believe His word and live accordingly.
Maggie
 
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dominicanbeauty

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WELL I DON'T KNOW HOW GOD FEELS ABOUT THEM BUT I KNOW THAT I LOVE A TRANSGENDER N HIS NAME IS JEFFREY STAR HE IS AWESOME HE ADDED

ME ON MYSPACE N FACEBOOK I ABSOLUTELY ADORE HIM N HIS STYLE I KNOW LOTS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE BOYS BUT INSIDE THEY FEEL LIKE A GIRL I MYSELF

USE TO FEEL MORE BOYISH THEN GIRLISH ALONG TIME AGO THATS WHY MY MY MOM CALLED ME N MY SISTERS TOMBOYS LOL
 
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shiner500

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here is one verse I remember reading
Deuteronomy 22:5

New International Version (NIV)


5 A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the LORD your God detests anyone who does this.



I agree with tribesman
 
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MaggieMye

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Speaking from a deliverance ministerial point of view: Transgenders almost always are the victims of the spirit of rejection and it comes because the child was not the desired sex wanted by one or both of the parents. The parents seldom tell their children that they wanted the opposite sex and often, if they do, it is said in anger, which reinforces the rejection. Deliverance and healing are needed in the soul and the heart. Forgiveness is key. It can also be a familial curse, stemming from parents or grandparents that were victims of the above stated rejection. The iniquity is passed down through the blood and a child is born with the tendencies even though the parents had no gender desired of the unborn child. Curses can be broken and the spirits attached to those curse cast off.

Maggie
 
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...How would YOU feel if you made something beautiful and then someone came along and altered it?...
Adam and Eve already did that. Eve and Adam disobeyed God and brought the curse of sin into the world. Now we witness the result of thousands of years of genetic degradation and mutations when children are born with both mental and physical handicaps. When possible we try to "fix" these defects so a person can have a more "normal" life.

In the beginning God created them male and female, but in the present day, humans are sometimes born with both male and female genitals, some ambiguous, and some without genitals. Some have "male" XY chromosomes yet are in appearances female, even having a uterus. Others have DNA with "female" XX chromosomes yet are anatomically male. More than one in 500 males have an extra X chromosome. There are many natural variations that do not conform to typical male/female sex characteristics.

Research is increasingly finding evidence that links genetics and prenatal hormonal conditions to gender dysphoria. As a birth defect (and therefore not a choice), why shouldn't that defect be corrected so a person can have a more normal life? Can we judge with certainty that gender dysphoria is simply a sinful choice rather than a birth defect?

Further, with regard to transsexuals, why do many Christians place so much emphasis on the flesh or physical characteristics while completely disregarding the heart of the individual? I find this to be curious when considering the following...
1 Samuel 16:7 (NKJV)
"...For the Lord does not see as man sees; for man looks at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.”
John 7:24 (NKJV)
"Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment."


...if they are having sex with 1.) someone they are not married to, they are going to hell for the Scripture tells us that fornicators do not access the Kingdom of Heaven; or 2.) if they are married to someone of the same sex as they were when they were born, they are going to hell because they cannot be Biblically married to a member of the same. sex...
Let me address this in reverse order...

2. One born anatomically male with severe gender dysphoria cannot have a truly heterosexual relationship with a woman; in their heart and mind this would be a homosexual relationship. If this person undergoes sex reassignment surgery, she will be female anatomically as well as being female in heart and mind, and I see no reason why she couldn't marry a man. It would be a heterosexual relationship in both ways.

1. Jesus taught clearly about divorce being sin, yet divorce is very common within Christianity, even with church programs to help divorcees reintegrate into the church. I have even met several pastors who are divorced. Applying your logic, about 2/3 of the "church" is going directly to eternity in hell as a result of divorce/remarriage. Scripture does not have the same clear prohibition of someone with gender dysphoria undergoing sex reassignment surgery. Why does the church tolerate divorce while condemning transsexuals?
 
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jennimatts

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I really thought this was going to stir up some discussion. :)
 
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GodsavemeifyoureallyExist

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I think god loves them whether you feel like your more of a girl then a boy in the end where still all human aren't we? when cut they bled just like everyone else

so theres really no difference between them and us sept for different makeup clothes and hair. I'm just like anyone. I cut and I bleed. And I embarrass easily. Michael Jackson
 
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Speaking from a deliverance ministerial point of view: Transgenders almost always are the victims of the spirit of rejection and it comes because the child was not the desired sex wanted by one or both of the parents. The parents seldom tell their children that they wanted the opposite sex and often, if they do, it is said in anger, which reinforces the rejection. Deliverance and healing are needed in the soul and the heart. Forgiveness is key. It can also be a familial curse, stemming from parents or grandparents that were victims of the above stated rejection. The iniquity is passed down through the blood and a child is born with the tendencies even though the parents had no gender desired of the unborn child. Curses can be broken and the spirits attached to those curse cast off.

Maggie
Nice job Maggie, this is exactly right. It is wrong, but it often does stem from family curses passed down etc. Very well put.
 
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Speaking from a deliverance ministerial point of view: Transgenders almost always are the victims of the spirit of rejection and it comes because the child was not the desired sex wanted by one or both of the parents. The parents seldom tell their children that they wanted the opposite sex and often, if they do, it is said in anger, which reinforces the rejection. Deliverance and healing are needed in the soul and the heart. Forgiveness is key. It can also be a familial curse, stemming from parents or grandparents that were victims of the above stated rejection. The iniquity is passed down through the blood and a child is born with the tendencies even though the parents had no gender desired of the unborn child. Curses can be broken and the spirits attached to those curse cast off.

Maggie
If we are going to reach families with the gospel and do that through wisdom, don't you think that we should reach these homes that have this type of rejection early as opposed to late, when much of the damage has been done? This is why Sunday School programs in the local church and programs that reach these kids before they even get to their teenage years is so very vital. We need to get the love of God to these kids in the home through visitation and whatever creative means possible. One on one with these kids whenever possible and befriending the parents in a mature way is something we have to try. If we can have any consistent input on shaping their way of thinking and giving them good wholesome images, that will go far in their development and could be the determining factor that keeps them from giving place to these things and at the same time they are in the midst of the body of Christ and the gospel.