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Here is a teaching on the third temple.

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Dear Avinu, Here is what the Bible says about the temple:
"Or know ye not that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, Who is in you, Whom ye have from God, and ye are not your own? For ye were bought with a price; glorify then God in your body and in your spirit, which are God's". 1 Cor. 6:19-20 ONT Orthodox New Testament, Volume 2, page 154.
The Church, therefore, is the Temple. No future earthly temple in Jerusalem. The body of Christ, the bodies of the believers in Christ, the Church, is the new, spiritual temple. No future animals sacrifices (see Hebrews) from earthly Jerusalem, with no future Jewish millennium from present day Israel with Christ reigning for 1,000 years on earth with animal sacrifices in a restored physical earthly temple. The temple is now spiritual and is physical only in the renewed bodies of believers in Christ. We are to believe in Christ, not a new Jewish temple. Because Christ is for all people, including for Jews, and not for Jews only, for in Christ there is no Jew nor Gentile.
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Avinu: Where does it say in the New Testament that there will be a third temple in Jerusalem?
Where in the NT? In any NT book besides Revelation?
What does Revelation say?
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OOC, did you listen to the entire message? Because if you had, you would not be asking me these questions, nor quoting these scriptures. I encourage you to listen to it in it's entirety. Shalom my friend.
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Also OOC, this third temple has nothing to do with the body of Messiah, which is also made clear in the teaching. Shalom
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Also OOC, this third temple has nothing to do with the body of Messiah, which is also made clear in the teaching. Shalom

There can be no Shalom with God outside of Christ the Messiah. Are the Jews preparing to receive Antichrist in a Third Temple?
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OOC, did you listen to the whole teaching? It's only 27 min. long. If you would listen to the whole thing, it will answer with scripture all your questions, then we can go into deeper discussion on it. Shalom
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OOC, did you listen to the whole teaching? It's only 27 min. long. If you would listen to the whole thing, it will answer with scripture all your questions, then we can go into deeper discussion on it. Shalom
Avinu: Can you summarize it all in one sentence, or in one paragraph? I don't have time (to waste 27 minutes!) to listen to false, heretical teachings.
Shalom only in Christ Jesus. Amen.
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Avinu: Can you summarize it all in one sentence, or in one paragraph? I don't have time (to waste 27 minutes!) to listen to false, heretical teachings.
Shalom only in Christ Jesus. Amen.
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Scott, let me get this right. You want me to summarize something for you because you assume it's false and heretical? If you're not interested in learning something that is Biblical, then I guess you should move on to someone elses thread. Shalom
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Avinu: Can you summarize it all in one sentence, or in one paragraph? I don't have time (to waste 27 minutes!) to listen to false, heretical teachings.
Shalom only in Christ Jesus. Amen.
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Scott, let me get this right. You want me to summarize something for you because you assume it's false and heretical? If you're not interested in learning something that is Biblical, then I guess you should move on to someone elses thread. Shalom
Let me go one step further Avinu: Scott, could you please explain how it is you know something is false and heretical without actually looking at it, because I would like to be able to do that myself. Also: Could you please explain why it is we should look at the links YOU post when you don't bother looking at anyone elses without pre-judging them? I mean, come on, I even read through Ada's links. If you really think what Avinu posted was wrong, I don't see how you can prove it without actually knowing what it was he posted.

In fact Scott, I have a challenge for you. Without clicking on the link or looking at the video, I would appreciate you posting exactly what is heretical with the link, using quotes from the video to prove your point. Thank you.
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Scott, let me get this right. You want me to summarize something for you because you assume it's false and heretical? If you're not interested in learning something that is Biblical, then I guess you should move on to someone elses thread. Shalom

Will the Third Temple be an Orthodox Church? With the 7 sacraments, baptism, chrismation and the Holy Eucharist included? Will it have icons of Christ and the Saints? Will it believe in the "faith once delivered unto the saints" (Jude 3)? Will it glorify ONLY God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit? Dear Avinu, Beware of saying "Shalom" when there is no peace because of believing in false doctrines! Peace to you, really, but you need to believe the true Faith to find true Shalom, friend. God bless you.
You avoided answering my question by the way. I'm not assuming it's false. But if it's not from the Orthodox Church, it isn't teaching the same Gospel, the True Gospel, that only the Holy Orthodox Church preaches (See Galatians: If anyone preach to you another Gospel, other than the one which we have received, let him be anathema (accursed).).
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Let me go one step further Avinu: Scott, could you please explain how it is you know something is false and heretical without actually looking at it, because I would like to be able to do that myself. Also: Could you please explain why it is we should look at the links YOU post when you don't bother looking at anyone elses without pre-judging them? I mean, come on, I even read through Ada's links. If you really think what Avinu posted was wrong, I don't see how you can prove it without actually knowing what it was he posted.

In fact Scott, I have a challenge for you. Without clicking on the link or looking at the video, I would appreciate you posting exactly what is heretical with the link, using quotes from the video to prove your point. Thank you.


If the Third Temple isn't a Church, it's not of Christ. That's not pre-judgment, it's the Truth.
The Jews have rejected Jesus Christ. Why should we follow after what "Messiah" the Jews are looking for, when they aren't looking for Jesus Christ our LORD?
Again, can't YOU quote from the video if YOU believe what it says? I don't have to believe everything people tell me I should believe, or watch every video people tell me I should watch. If they can't be up front about what's in the video, why should I waste 27 minutes watching a video about animal sacrifices in a restored temple?
Christ is the Only Sacrifice for the sins of the whole world (1 John 2:2). Animal sacrifices in a Jewish third temple are Anathema! Maranatha!
God save us.
I'm not saying I know it's heretical. Are you saying I should believe in a future Jewish temple? Where do the Church Fathers say that will be part of God's plan for salvation?
Isn't now the day of salvation?
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[size=5]Again, can't YOU quote from the video if YOU believe what it says?
Not the point. You were judging a video you hadn't seen. Like I said, Ada's posts were filled with some of the most anti-semetic stuff you could imagine, yet I read through them so I could rebut them. I don't know how you can seriously rebut something you haven't seen, nor can I imagine why anyone should read your links when you won't show the same respect towards others here.

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Here is a teaching on the third temple.

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I wish I could watch this video, but unfortunately YouTube is blocked where I live. I do know that there is a Third Temple organization and that all the articles for use in this third temple have already been made right down to the high priest's clothes. It's pretty cool, really.

I do believe a third temple will be rebuilt, and I believe that an evil ruler will conquer Israel and set up an idol in this third temple, causing the daily sacrifices of this temple to cease. I have passages of my own to list with regard to what I have said, but it would be cool if you could list the passages mentioned in this video. Maybe there is something I am missing. =)
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I wish I could watch this video, but unfortunately YouTube is blocked where I live. I do know that there is a Third Temple organization and that all the articles for use in this third temple have already been made right down to the high priest's clothes. It's pretty cool, really.

I do believe a third temple will be rebuilt, and I believe that an evil ruler will conquer Israel and set up an idol in this third temple, causing the daily sacrifices of this temple to cease. I have passages of my own to list with regard to what I have said, but it would be cool if you could list the passages mentioned in this video. Maybe there is something I am missing.
The short of it my friend is you hit it right on the head. Shalom
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I notice posting asking for scripture in the NT, not mentioning the OT.

People with a mindset against Moses must distort scripture to match what they believe. In 2 Peter 3:16 it warns us about doing that.

2 Peter 3:16 (speaking of Paul) His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

Christ said: John 5:46
If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me.

The people in Jesus’ day read OT, they didn’t have a NT. Now, the NT is read and followed but the OT is not, for it is said it is about a law giving God, and the law won’t save. Or it is only for Jews and the Jews killed Christ. Today Christ would say “If you believe in Me, you would believe in Moses for I wrote about him”.

Matthew 5:17
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

So some people cannot hear about the temple in Jerusalem, even to check scripture regarding it. That is not true of all of us.
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So some people cannot hear about the temple in Jerusalem, even to check scripture regarding it. That is not true of all of us.
Amen Red, it is a sad thing. Shalom
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There will be a third temple. Revelation 18 confirms this. Unfortunately, it will be taken over by the Antichrist.
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Amen, that's exactly what's going to happen, scripture makes that quite clear. Shalom
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Amen, that's exactly what's going to happen, scripture makes that quite clear. Shalom
See what I said. I thought it was heretical.
We need Christ. We don't need to have many dispensationalist teachings about Antichrist. Too many people have assumed there's was the last generation in the past, and have been wrong. We need to seek the real Jesus Christ, so then we will not be deceived by Antichrist.
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