Obey The Book or Die!

[StMichaelTheArchangel]

This snippet of a Muslim movie (name unknown) shows what happened when the Islamic religion adopted the theology that 'The Book' is the ultimate authority and that it must be obeyed line by line.
Fundamentalist Christians also believe in a 'The Book' theology.
Because of the lessons learned from extremist Islam, is Bible Alone (Sola Scriptura) really a teaching inspired by the Holy Spirit, or the spirit of error? Are we not giving ourselves space to become like the Muslim extremists? Indeed, we find many instances of child abuse committed by Fundamentalists because of the teaching, "spare the rod or spoil the child". Be that as it is, in the Islamic religion its a little different, their book seems to advocate killing. It makes you wonder that if the Bible advocated killings, Christians may do the same thing as the extremist Muslims.

Watch and enjoy.

[RedTent]

The literal or the spiritual interpretation of the bible is exactly where my prayer and study life is going right now! Is fundamentalism right at all? Islam is entirely not God ordained.

God explained the spiritual life to the Hebrews through the physical. Even the Hebrew language makes for thinking of spiritual things through the physical. For instance in Hebrew the word translated atonement means to cover. Today, through the new covenant in Christ it is our reconciliation with God through the cross. Same thing, one physical the other aesthetic.

The New Testament is written in a different language, bringing out the spiritual of God. Yet, it was written to a world new to thinking in this way. Every person, including Paul, would be amazed at how extreme we have taken his word to discount all the physical. I think we have gone way, way too far. There is a spiritual side to what we do physically, even if we don’t acknowledge it when we act.

Purely physical is wrong, Christ says so. Purely spiritual is wrong, scripture says Gnostics were wrong and that is what they did. How do we find the God ordained way?

[jimmydiggs]

Soooo, basically, someone who professes something you don't agree with did something else you don't agree with, therefor everyone who professes the same thing is in error?


Kind of what it sounds like.


"I don't like Sola Scriptura, these people did something I don't like, therefor clearly the problem is Sola Scriptura!"

I could do the same thing, if I was interested in logical fallacies.

[PopClick]

Originally Posted by StMichaelTheArchangel

It makes you wonder that if the Bible advocated killings, Christians may do the same thing as the extremist Muslims.

Yeah, let's take this two steps further. Just imagine, if the bible advocated pedophilia! People would be abusing children all over the world! Child sexual abuse is a horrible thing. Therefore, do not follow exactly what the bible says.

Wait, the bible gives no such directives? Hmm. Interesting.

[StMichaelTheArchangel]

Originally Posted by PopClick

Yeah, let's take this two steps further. Just imagine, if the bible advocated pedophilia! People would be abusing children all over the world! Child sexual abuse is a horrible thing. Therefore, do not follow exactly what the bible says.

Wait, the bible gives no such directives? Hmm. Interesting.

Do you ever read the news?

Fundamentalist Christians ‘spanked’ daughter to death|Raw Replay

[PopClick]

Originally Posted by StMichaelTheArchangel

Do you ever read the news?

Fundamentalist Christians ‘spanked’ daughter to death|Raw Replay

Do you?

Catholic Sex Abuse Scandal

My point, which seems to have been ignored, is that we cannot take the actions of a few and use them to say that all people in their belief system are wrong.

It also does no good to play a game of "What if the bible advocated murder/pedophilia", because it clearly does not.

[StMichaelTheArchangel]

Originally Posted by PopClick

Do you?

Catholic Sex Abuse Scandal

My point, which seems to have been ignored, is that we cannot take the actions of a few and use them to say that all people in their belief system are wrong.

It also does no good to play a game of "What if the bible advocated murder/pedophilia", because it clearly does not.

What does the Catholic Church have to do with this?

I am just questioning the idea of Bible Alone as not being a teaching of the Holy Spirit. The religion of Islam adopted the idea and it led them into evil, thus making me suspicious that it is not a teaching come from the Holy Spirit but the spirit of error.

[StMichaelTheArchangel]

Originally Posted by jimmydiggs

Soooo, basically, someone who professes something you don't agree with did something else you don't agree with, therefor everyone who professes the same thing is in error?


Kind of what it sounds like.


"I don't like Sola Scriptura, these people did something I don't like, therefor clearly the problem is Sola Scriptura!"

I could do the same thing, if I was interested in logical fallacies.

No, I am pointing out that there are striking similarities between the teaching of the religion of Islam and the teaching of the religion of Protestant Christianity. Makes you wonder where the Protestant Reformers came up with the idea of Sola Scirptura. Is it a teaching of the Holy Spirit? That is the question.

[PopClick]

Originally Posted by StMichaelTheArchangel

What does the Catholic Church have to do with this?

I am just questioning the idea of Bible Alone as not being a teaching of the Holy Spirit. The religion of Islam adopted the idea and it led them into evil, thus making me suspicious that it is not a teaching come from the Holy Spirit but the spirit of error.

What does islam have to do with protestants?

Some catholic priests behaved as lustful child abusers and it led them into evil, thus making me suspicious that it is not a church come from the Holy Spirit but the spirit of error.

My point, for the last time: You cannot use an instance of (child abuse/murder) as an example of why not to devote yourself to a (book/church group) that DOES NOT condone such behavior.

Anyway, I'm outta this thread; darned if I'm going to beat my head against a wall.

[jimmydiggs]

Originally Posted by StMichaelTheArchangel

No, I am pointing out that there are striking similarities between the teaching of the religion of Islam and the teaching of the religion of Protestant Christianity. Makes you wonder where the Protestant Reformers came up with the idea of Sola Scirptura. Is it a teaching of the Holy Spirit? That is the question.

How do you come up with this stuff?

Your lack of reasoning is scary.

[StMichaelTheArchangel]

Originally Posted by jimmydiggs

How do you come up with this stuff?

Your lack of reasoning is scary.

Proverbs 15:12 "A scorner loveth not one that reproveth him: neither will he go unto the wise."