"Holy Laughter" (for a good laugh!)
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The book of Acts does not present the apostles as being in a drunken stupor. Just because someone in the crowd suggests that as a possible explanation does not mean that it was even close. They did not understand all of the languages being spoken. They did not anticipate them to have been enable to speak in a foreign language. It could possibly have sounded like slurred speech.
But that is a far cry from acting stupid, laughing like idiots, and falling all over each other. God is not the author of confusion and he expects His services to be done decently and in order.
Those people did not manifest anything remotely of the HOLY Spirit. God is not a buffoon. Those folks are also known to be false teachers on other matters of doctrine as well.
But that is a far cry from acting stupid, laughing like idiots, and falling all over each other. God is not the author of confusion and he expects His services to be done decently and in order.
Those people did not manifest anything remotely of the HOLY Spirit. God is not a buffoon. Those folks are also known to be false teachers on other matters of doctrine as well.
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Take a look at this one...and some of the others on the right sidebar. Ssee how those who call themselves 'born of God' mock His Holy Spirit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGfjcER2WyA
Maggie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGfjcER2WyA
Maggie
well on behalf of most in the video, that is the way they have been raised, they don't know the straight serious look that all dead churches experience, and this is their way. and to be honest with you all, I would rather be in the video than in most churches. christians ought to be the happiest people alive. many people worship different ways. I most of the time just sat there and weep while others around me are running around shouting and praising, but they are not right and I am wrong, it's just many ways to worship. as far as decent and in order, would that not be determined by the church itself, I mean most folks would say that a bunch of Bikers, attending their church would be determined by most folks as indecently dressed for church. or do we get so legalist that a drunk can't come to the altar because he is not decent or in order. or do we turn away women( who need Jesus), because they have pants on. I was raised that the people in the video would be out of order also but All I can say about this thread is you just have to experience something like this yourself, before you try to judge. I had never been told anything about being drunk in the Spirit or slang in the Spirit. and believe that myself til I experienced both of them.
did you not hear the preacher in the video, if the folks at pentecost thought that the disciples were drunk, is that because some appeared to be past out , they were are staggering around and laughing, what was it that made the people think that the disciples were drunk because they just sitting there being all serious? and Peter even had to stand up in their defense that they were not drunk.
when you see a bunch of people who are bound by depression and they are freed from that and all break out in laugter, then you could see it is of The Holy Spirit.
Jer 31:13Then shall the virgin rejoice in the DANCE, both young men and old together: for I will turn their mourning into JOY, and will comfort them, and make them rejoice from their sorrow.
did you not hear the preacher in the video, if the folks at pentecost thought that the disciples were drunk, is that because some appeared to be past out , they were are staggering around and laughing, what was it that made the people think that the disciples were drunk because they just sitting there being all serious? and Peter even had to stand up in their defense that they were not drunk.
when you see a bunch of people who are bound by depression and they are freed from that and all break out in laugter, then you could see it is of The Holy Spirit.
Jer 31:13Then shall the virgin rejoice in the DANCE, both young men and old together: for I will turn their mourning into JOY, and will comfort them, and make them rejoice from their sorrow.
I could only watch about half. It looked and spiritually fellt demonic. I saw not Our Lord God but what appeared to be a lecherus and evil spirit in that man. Father, Jesus and Holy Spirit protect all from this. I have always loved to see the Holy Spirit working within our christian comunity. I have see and heard the Holy spirit at work, but this was not the Holy Spirit of Our Father and Jesus in that vidio. God bless, pickles
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Thaddeus,
There is nothing in the Scriptures to justify the "laugh" mess. There is no such thing as being "slain" or "slang" in the Spirit either. It is insulting to use such language as "drunkenness" for the Spirits activity.
It is unjustified speculation to extrapolate the notion that the apostles were staggering around, passed out, or laughing like hyenas. The manifestation of tongues seemed to be the slurred speech of drunks to those who did not know what it was.
Hagen and Copeland are pathetic expositors of Scripture.
There is nothing in the Scriptures to justify the "laugh" mess. There is no such thing as being "slain" or "slang" in the Spirit either. It is insulting to use such language as "drunkenness" for the Spirits activity.
It is unjustified speculation to extrapolate the notion that the apostles were staggering around, passed out, or laughing like hyenas. The manifestation of tongues seemed to be the slurred speech of drunks to those who did not know what it was.
Hagen and Copeland are pathetic expositors of Scripture.
Anyway, there's holy laughter movements, then there is holy laughter. Yes it can and does happen at times. The word drunk does not always imply alcohol. It can mean overcome with extreme emotions. Using it to describe the experience is entirely valid. You can be drunk with love, drunk with envy, drunk with rage ,etc. Drunk in the Spirit is valid.
The manifestation of tongues must have been more than just simple slurred speech. The tongues sounds like a foreign language. And no one who hears another speak a foreign language says "they must be drunk". I can tell when a person speaks german, french,, or chinese, and I'd never say they are drunk. But if they are staggering around with maybe fits of laughter or emotion or appear to be out of themselves, only then would I say they are drunk.
The OT says that when the Spirit comes upon them they will be a different person.
The manifestation of tongues must have been more than just simple slurred speech. The tongues sounds like a foreign language. And no one who hears another speak a foreign language says "they must be drunk". I can tell when a person speaks german, french,, or chinese, and I'd never say they are drunk. But if they are staggering around with maybe fits of laughter or emotion or appear to be out of themselves, only then would I say they are drunk.
The OT says that when the Spirit comes upon them they will be a different person.
Thats in 1 Sam 10:6:
The Spirit of the LORD will come upon you in power, and you will prophesy with them; and you will be changed into a different person.
If we think that when the power of God comes upon a person they are able to stand up straight with a sombre look on their face and politely, quietly and emotionlessly say "praise God, hallelujah", or are too proud or with pretense to show emotion then we have not yet encountered the power of God. We are not talking about the Spirit's person who is gentle, kind, etc here but His power, or rather, our potential reaction to it.
The Spirit of the LORD will come upon you in power, and you will prophesy with them; and you will be changed into a different person.
If we think that when the power of God comes upon a person they are able to stand up straight with a sombre look on their face and politely, quietly and emotionlessly say "praise God, hallelujah", or are too proud or with pretense to show emotion then we have not yet encountered the power of God. We are not talking about the Spirit's person who is gentle, kind, etc here but His power, or rather, our potential reaction to it.
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What makes you think that being a different person constitutes acting like a dumb animal? You cannot appeal to the NT for any implication or example of such behavior.
You are asserting that for which you have no evidence. When you examine the doctrine of these people you will find it failing, why would God give them the Holy Spirit?
You are asserting that for which you have no evidence. When you examine the doctrine of these people you will find it failing, why would God give them the Holy Spirit?
M
Crowder has done this type of mockery at meetings that he speaks at and encourages others to do the same. He may know scirpture, but he does not know the character of the Lord God.
That other's condone it is quite sad. I mean, who in their Righteous Mind, would ever think that Holy Spirit wants to be likened to illegal drug use and behavior that is condemed in the Bible??? ...liked, compared to and EQUATED with a joint?
Maggie
That other's condone it is quite sad. I mean, who in their Righteous Mind, would ever think that Holy Spirit wants to be likened to illegal drug use and behavior that is condemed in the Bible??? ...liked, compared to and EQUATED with a joint?
Maggie
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