Edward99
YOU SAID: Gibbering in unintelligible utterances isn't from God.
How simple is that?
Oh I'm sorry Edward, I didn't know you went around the world and carefully examined every Christian that is speaking with other tongues today and identified their language as gibberish. How would you possibly know if every person is speaking gibberish? And besides.....
1Corrinthians 14:2
For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
They are not talking to you Edward....according to the Word of God, unless someone interprets you can't understand them anyway....They are talking to God....So it is God who decides if it is gibberish or not....Not You.
Hi IMINJC
All you have to do is read these two passages.
Acts 2
1And when the days of Pentecost were fulfilled, as all of them were assembled together, 2Suddenly there was from Heaven a sound like a mighty wind and the whole place in which they were sitting was filled with it. 3And tongues like fire that were divided appeared to them, and they sat on each one of them. 4And all of them were filled with The Spirit of Holiness, and they were going out speaking in various languages, according to whatever The Spirit was giving them to speak.
5But there were men dwelling in Jerusalem who were worshipers of God, Jews from every nation under Heaven. 6And when that noise occurred, the entire populace gathered and was agitated, because each one of them heard that they were speaking in their dialects. 7And they were all marveling and were amazed as they were saying, each to the other, “Are not all these who are speaking Galileans?” 8“How are we hearing, everyone, his own dialect in which we were born?” 9“Parthians and Medes and Elanites, and those who dwell in Bayth- Nahrayn, Judeans and Qapodoqians and those who are from the regions of Pontus and of Asia,” 10“And from the regions of Phrygia and of Pamphylia and of Egypt and of the countries of Libya which are near to Cyrene and those who came from Rome, Jews and proselytes”, 11“And who are from Crete, and Arabians, behold, we are hearing from those who are speaking in our own dialects, the wonders of God.” 12And they were all astonished and bewildered. They were saying one to another, “What is this phenomenon?” 13But others were mocking them as they said, “These have drunk new wine and have become drunk.”
The gifts of languages (speaking with understanding/has the gift of interpretation also) or without understanding (able to speak a gentile language, see above; but not able to interpret it for the assembled) Paul talks about is the exact same gift the disciples received on Pentecost.
That was predicted, it was for a sign to the jews, and for the salvation of the gentiles.
It's easy and lovely.
If I travel around and someone speaks to me in Finnish or Spanish, I'm pretty certain it's a known language of the earth; but I don't understand it, so I need an interpreter.
Not hard, man.
Examples of foreign languages as part of God's Judgment on israel (gentile exiles/oppressors, etc):
Ezekiel 3
Ezekiel’s Commission
1Then He said to me, “Son of man, eat what you find; eat this scroll, and go, speak to the house of Israel.” 2So I opened my mouth, and He fed me this scroll. 3He said to me, “Son of man, feed your stomach and fill your body with this scroll which I am giving you.” Then I ate it, and it was sweet as honey in my mouth.
4
Then He said to me, “Son of man, go to the house of Israel and speak with My words to them. 5“For you are not being sent to a people of unintelligible speech or difficult language, but to the house of Israel, 6nor to many peoples of unintelligible speech or difficult language, whose words you cannot understand. But I have sent you to them who should listen to you; 7yet the house of Israel will not be willing to listen to you, since they are not willing to listen to Me. Surely the whole house of Israel is stubborn and obstinate. 8“Behold, I have made your face as hard as their faces and your forehead as hard as their foreheads. 9“Like emery harder than flint I have made your forehead. Do not be afraid of them or be dismayed before them, though they are a rebellious house.” 10Moreover, He said to me, “Son of man, take into your heart all My words which I will speak to you and listen closely. 11“Go to the exiles, to the sons of your people, and speak to them and tell them, whether they listen or not, ‘Thus says the Lord GOD.’”
Isaiah 28
Ephraim’s Captivity Predicted
1Woe to the proud crown of the drunkards of Ephraim,
And to the fading flower of its glorious beauty,
Which is at the head of the fertile valley
Of those who are overcome with wine!
2Behold, the Lord has a strong and mighty agent;
As a storm of hail, a tempest of destruction,
Like a storm of mighty overflowing waters,
He has cast it down to the earth with His hand.
3The proud crown of the drunkards of Ephraim is trodden under foot.
4And the fading flower of its glorious beauty,
Which is at the head of the fertile valley,
Will be like the first-ripe fig prior to summer,
Which one sees,
And as soon as it is in his hand,
He swallows it.
5In that day the LORD of hosts will become a beautiful crown
And a glorious diadem to the remnant of His people;
6A spirit of justice for him who sits in judgment,
A strength to those who repel the onslaught at the gate.
7And these also reel with wine and stagger from strong drink:
The priest and the prophet reel with strong drink,
They are confused by wine, they stagger from strong drink;
They reel while having visions,
They totter when rendering judgment.
8For all the tables are full of filthy vomit, without a single clean place.
9“To whom would He teach knowledge,
And to whom would He interpret the message?
Those just weaned from milk?
Those just taken from the breast?
10“For He says,
‘Order on order, order on order,
Line on line, line on line,
A little here, a little there.’”
11Indeed, He will speak to this people
Through stammering lips and a foreign tongue,
12He who said to them, “Here is rest, give rest to the weary,”
And, “Here is repose,” but they would not listen.
13So the word of the LORD to them will be,
“Order on order, order on order,
Line on line, line on line,
A little here, a little there,”
That they may go and stumble backward, be broken, snared and taken captive.
Judah Is Warned
14Therefore, hear the word of the LORD, O scoffers,
Who rule this people who are in Jerusalem,
15Because you have said, “We have made a covenant with death,
And with Sheol we have made a pact.
The overwhelming scourge will not reach us when it passes by,
For we have made falsehood our refuge and we have concealed ourselves with deception.”
16Therefore thus says the Lord GOD,
“Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone, a tested stone,
A costly cornerstone for the foundation, firmly placed.
He who believes in it will not be disturbed.
17“I will make justice the measuring line
And righteousness the level;
Then hail will sweep away the refuge of lies
And the waters will overflow the secret place.
18“Your covenant with death will be canceled,
And your pact with Sheol will not stand;
When the overwhelming scourge passes through,
Then you become its trampling place.
19“As often as it passes through, it will seize you;
For morning after morning it will pass through, anytime during the day or night,
And it will be sheer terror to understand what it means.”
20The bed is too short on which to stretch out,
And the blanket is too small to wrap oneself in.
21For the LORD will rise up as at Mount Perazim,
He will be stirred up as in the valley of Gibeon,
To do His task, His unusual task,
And to work His work, His extraordinary work.
22And now do not carry on as scoffers,
Or your fetters will be made stronger;
For I have heard from the Lord GOD of hosts
Of decisive destruction on all the earth.
23Give ear and hear my voice,
Listen and hear my words.
24Does the farmer plow continually to plant seed?
Does he continually turn and harrow the ground?
25Does he not level its surface
And sow dill and scatter cummin
And plant wheat in rows,
Barley in its place and rye within its area?
26For his God instructs and teaches him properly.
27For dill is not threshed with a threshing sledge,
Nor is the cartwheel driven over cummin;
But dill is beaten out with a rod, and cummin with a club.
28Grain for bread is crushed,
Indeed, he does not continue to thresh it forever.
Because the wheel of his cart and his horses eventually damage it,
He does not thresh it longer.
29This also comes from the LORD of hosts,
Who has made His counsel wonderful and His wisdom great.
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BABYLONIAN CAPTIVITY - GENTILE RULE OVER THEM.
JUDGMENT.
[JUST AS THE SPIRIT AT PENTECOST WAS A JUDGMENT AGAINST THE REBELS WHO COULDN'T HEAR AND A SIGN TO THOSE WHO BELIEVED, BUT FOR THE GOOD OF THE WHOLE WORLD. THE GOSPEL WENT OUT TO THE WORLD IN ALL LANGUAGES.]
11Indeed, He will speak to this people
Through stammering lips and a foreign tongue,
12He who said to them, “Here is rest, give rest to the weary,”
And, “Here is repose,” but they would not listen.
ACTS 2
behold, we are hearing from those who are speaking in our own dialects, the wonders of God.” 12And they were all astonished and bewildered. They were saying one to another, “What is this phenomenon?” 13But others were mocking them as they said, “These have drunk new wine and have become drunk.”
