אהבה /AHAVA/LOVE

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Hebrew, as one may know, is considered by the Bible to be the first language. It is the language through which God spoke in creating the world. Hence, Hebrew was not just created by God, but utilized by God in creating the world. Much wisdom is attributed to the words and letters in the Hebrew language.
Understanding the concepts that are invested in words can aid us in our own lives. As an interesting example, the word "love" which is thrown about so freely in English, has a special meaning in Hebrew. Love in Hebrew is "Ahava" ,
which is made up of three basic Hebrew letters,
. These three letters actually are broken down into two parts: a two letter base or root,
, and the first letter,
, which is a modifier. The meaning of the two letter base,
, is "to give". The letter "aleph"
, which precedes these two letters comes to modify the meaning of the base word, "give". The meaning of
, is "I give" and also "love".
We now see the connection between the two words, "I give" and "love". Love is giving. Now only is love giving, but the actual process of giving develops the very connection between the giver and the receiver. There is no greater giving than that of a husband and wife. Each one gives to the other. The more giving that one does, the greater is the connection.
[SIZE=+1]Why? [/SIZE]​
The process of giving is a vehicle through which the giver through his act of giving is able to, through a physical gift (or even a verbal comment), give of himself to another. This act of giving something is not merely helping another. For sure, giving is helping another, but it is much more than that. Giving is a method that enables us to make a connection to another. When we give to another, that which we give to him/her, could have been utilize to further our own self. In stead, we choose to take this object, which could have been utilized for our own needs and instead, use it for someone else.
Giving is a condition that creates and sustains love. With out giving, there is no connection that is sustaining.
The true relationships that our meaningful in our lives are those in which mutual giving takes place. The giving may be physical, emotional, intellectual or a combination. But with out giving from ourselves, no relationship can be enduring.
That is the secret of love that is revealed to us by the Hebrew language. This is the secret that is invested in the language by YHVH.



Ahava is more than just saying it. It is self sacrificing. Hence Yeshua being the perfect example of ahava.
 

phil36

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Im not sure if any of us know what language God used to create the world? I would like to remind yu that a good chunk of the OT quotes acttually ar quoted from the LXX, that is the Greek translation of the OT. Jesus,John,Paul etc used it.

Very good points about the use of the word Love.

The problem with the english is that it means all the variations, maybe Hebrew used more words im not sure, but in the Greek there are mainly three. In English the word love takes on differing meanings depending on context which sometimes isnt the most helpful, because if you fnd it hard to read in context you miss what is being said.

In English, we Love our Children, but we also love our spouses (i you have one), we also can say we love our jobs, or my dog/cat/fish. but does the word love mean the same in every category.

The essence of the word love in the bible is either a sacrificial love or a selfish love.

Thanks for your post Avinu.
 
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Just anthropologically speaking here, but there is no evidence that Hebrew existed as a unique language before sometime around 1700, BC (i.e., while the Hebrews were still in Egypt). Other Semitic languages and Sumerian cuneiform and Egyptian hieroglyphics existed as written languages prior to Hebrew. It is impossible to know how long Hebrew existed as a spoken language before being a written language, but given that biblical persons interacted with cultures with written languages (i.e. Abraham in Egypt) hundreds of years before the oldest archeological or manuscript evidence of Hebrew writing, it is doubtful that the spoken language preceded the written word by much, relatively speaking. More than likely the language or languages spoken during the events of the first 11 chapters of Genesis are now dead languages.
 
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prophecyman

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Avinu, Eber is the father patriarch of the Hebrew people. It is not possible that God spoke the worlds into being using Hebrew. It must be remembered that Moses wrote the first five books and it was in Hebrew, thats a long stretch of time to consider.
 

Shilo

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I do not know if Hebrew was the first language, but early Hebrew was written in pictures so you can take any hebrew word and look at the pictures and get the meaning. So anyone can if they want to know the LORD and his words for themselves. Like at the end of days when god comes as GOD Almighty or EL SHADDAI

EL =God =Alep,h lamed they are the picture of OX and shepherd's staff = GOD is our strong shepherd

Shaddai = Almighty = Yod , dalet,shin thet are a picture of hand, door, and teeth = destroyer of the door, Jesus the door looked as if he was destroyed, but that was an opening of the door. On the Day of Atonement the door is closed. People who did not choose to go through the door when it was open will find it closed and they will be the ones destroyed.
Seek the LORD while he may be found; call on him while he is near Is 55:6
 
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This is to the first 3 people who responded. I have always had respect for you 3, we have always been very in the same mind and doctrine. As for how far back hebrew language goes, I will have to respectfully disagree, for I have read many documents that state and prove otherwise. Now granted there are different levels of hebrew. Such as it is believed that at the time of YHVH using Moshe(Moses) to deliver Israel out of Egypt, the common written words in those days were a form of pictography. I for one have a Torah Bible written in such. Also we have the paleo hebrew, and the modern. I also don't declare that it is absolute fact that YHVH created the world in the hebrew language. I believe it is.


But the point of this thread was not to debate when hebrew truly started. I believe Zeph. 3:9 is plenty of evidence in itself.

The point of this thread was about the word 'love' in hebrew and the depths of it's meaning. Shalom
 
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prophecyman

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This is to the first 3 people who responded. I have always had respect for you 3, we have always been very in the same mind and doctrine. As for how far back hebrew language goes, I will have to respectfully disagree, for I have read many documents that state and prove otherwise. Now granted there are different levels of hebrew. Such as it is believed that at the time of YHVH using Moshe(Moses) to deliver Israel out of Egypt, the common written words in those days were a form of pictography. I for one have a Torah Bible written in such. Also we have the paleo hebrew, and the modern. I also don't declare that it is absolute fact that YHVH created the world in the hebrew language. I believe it is.


But the point of this thread was not to debate when hebrew truly started. I believe Zeph. 3:9 is plenty of evidence in itself.

The point of this thread was about the word 'love' in hebrew and the depths of it's meaning. Shalom
Good points to ponder, yet through the love of YHVH may he open our eyes, for through the entrace of his words brings light, and let all never forget that to YHVH belongs the interpetation.
 
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Laodicea

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While we know they spoke one language but, the Bible does not say which language that was and it is just speculation to say it was any particular language. When Jesus returns we will again have one language in heaven
Zephaniah 3:9
(9) For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the LORD, to serve him with one consent.

 
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My friends, can we please stay focused on what this thread is truly about? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVVVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
 
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wwjd_kilden

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I'd cheat and copy past it in hebew, but my blueletter bible will only show the greek, so english then

This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Just anthropologically speaking here, but there is no evidence that Hebrew existed as a unique language before sometime around 1700, BC (i.e., while the Hebrews were still in Egypt). Other Semitic languages and Sumerian cuneiform and Egyptian hieroglyphics existed as written languages prior to Hebrew. It is impossible to know how long Hebrew existed as a spoken language before being a written language, but given that biblical persons interacted with cultures with written languages (i.e. Abraham in Egypt) hundreds of years before the oldest archeological or manuscript evidence of Hebrew writing, it is doubtful that the spoken language preceded the written word by much, relatively speaking. More than likely the language or languages spoken during the events of the first 11 chapters of Genesis are now dead languages.
i agree...

the hebrew language and alphabet were actually derived from canaanite...and ultimately the entire language family containing hebrew traces back to northeast africa...so they are not really the original languages of the semitic peoples at all...

my own personal conclusion is that sumerian was probably the original semitic language...elamite is also a possibility...

anyway the original language spoken before the confusion of languages at babel probably ceased to exist at that time...
 

loveme1

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My friends, can we please stay focused on what this thread is truly about? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVVVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
Thank you for this AHAVA a new Hebrew word to my little collection.

YAHVAH is similar to that word too, interesting.

Personally, i am not interested in the what came first.... Almighty Yahvah God does everything for good.
 

pickles

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Hebrew, as one may know, is considered by the Bible to be the first language. It is the language through which God spoke in creating the world. Hence, Hebrew was not just created by God, but utilized by God in creating the world. Much wisdom is attributed to the words and letters in the Hebrew language.
Understanding the concepts that are invested in words can aid us in our own lives. As an interesting example, the word "love" which is thrown about so freely in English, has a special meaning in Hebrew. Love in Hebrew is "Ahava" ,
which is made up of three basic Hebrew letters,
. These three letters actually are broken down into two parts: a two letter base or root,
, and the first letter,
, which is a modifier. The meaning of the two letter base,
, is "to give". The letter "aleph"
, which precedes these two letters comes to modify the meaning of the base word, "give". The meaning of
, is "I give" and also "love".


We now see the connection between the two words, "I give" and "love". Love is giving. Now only is love giving, but the actual process of giving develops the very connection between the giver and the receiver. There is no greater giving than that of a husband and wife. Each one gives to the other. The more giving that one does, the greater is the connection.
[SIZE=+1]Why? [/SIZE]​


The process of giving is a vehicle through which the giver through his act of giving is able to, through a physical gift (or even a verbal comment), give of himself to another. This act of giving something is not merely helping another. For sure, giving is helping another, but it is much more than that. Giving is a method that enables us to make a connection to another. When we give to another, that which we give to him/her, could have been utilize to further our own self. In stead, we choose to take this object, which could have been utilized for our own needs and instead, use it for someone else.
Giving is a condition that creates and sustains love. With out giving, there is no connection that is sustaining.
The true relationships that our meaningful in our lives are those in which mutual giving takes place. The giving may be physical, emotional, intellectual or a combination. But with out giving from ourselves, no relationship can be enduring.
That is the secret of love that is revealed to us by the Hebrew language. This is the secret that is invested in the language by YHVH.



Ahava is more than just saying it. It is self sacrificing. Hence Yeshua being the perfect example of ahava.
Amen, I was so amazed when Jesus revieled this.
Even more when I learmed that it is in giving, that not only do we love, but we begin to see that perfect love is found by giving in Jesus.
Couldnt do this on our own, one needs Jesus for it to be fillfilled. :)

Do not love me just in words, but in deed and truth as well.

God bless
pickles
 
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Amen to loveme1 and amen to pickles.
 
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jkalyna

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:) O.K. JESUS GOT THE WATER PAN AND TOWELS OUT TO WASH PEOPLE'S FEET, IN SO MUCH LOVE THAT THE EARTH HE CREATED HE WANTED TO KEEP HIS CREATURES CLEAN AS A RECREATION OF THE MIRACLE OF GODS CREATION AT THE BEGINNING IN GENESIS. TOUCHING THE EARTH TO MAN, AND TOUCHING THE EARTH ON MAN AGAIN IN ORDER TO HIS CLOSENESS OF HIS LOVE FOR YOU AND AN EXAMPLE TO KEEP YOU NEAR TO HIM BY BEING HUMBLE. THERE IS NO WATER FOR ARROGANCE TOWARDS ANOTHER, ON THE OUTSIDE, BUT IF YOU GET THE ATTITUDE OF A A HUMBLE SPIRIT, YOU WILL BE WASHED OF YAHWAHS MIGHTY WATERS WITHIN IN. THERE IS NOTHING AWAITING FOR YOU THAT WILL WASH YOUR ARROGANT HEART CLEAN WITH A POT OF WATER AND TOWEL. CLEAN FEET BUT A UNCLEAN HEART. THIS SHOULD NOT BE, THE OUTSIDE SEPELCURE WHITEWASHED, BUT INSIDE FULL OF DEAD MANS BONES.:)
 
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Hebrew is a captivatingly beautiful language.
Great to know what the most important noun/verb/gift is in this tongue.Great post , Avinu - thanks!
 
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Hebrew is a captivatingly beautiful language.
Great to know what the most important noun/verb/gift is in this tongue.Great post , Avinu - thanks!
Blessings to you Mooky. Shalom
 
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wwjd_kilden

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ok, as we are discussing hebrew maybe someone can explain some lyrics to me? please, as I have seen several translations of them now

I'm referreing the the hebrew part of When you Belive (Prince of Egypt soundtrack)

to me it sounds something like this, It is on youtube though is I am making no sense:

Ashira el Adonai , ki ga-oh ga-ah
mi-cha- mo-cha ba- elim Adonai
mi-cha- mo-cha ne-dar bakodesh
nachita bechasdecha , am zu ga-al-ta
 
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The Hebrew language amazes me, and has opened my eyes to a better understanding of my Creator God. Every word seems to have a literal meaning, not abstract. For us love is often an emotion, in Hebrew it is literal doing. As I learn Hebrew meaning, it actually changes how I live my life. I am relating what I do to the spiritual, and my spiritual into doing.

God taught the Hebrews about Him using that language to people who thought that way. It brings me closer to Him.
 
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The Hebrew language amazes me, and has opened my eyes to a better understanding of my Creator God. Every word seems to have a literal meaning, not abstract. For us love is often an emotion, in Hebrew it is literal doing. As I learn Hebrew meaning, it actually changes how I live my life. I am relating what I do to the spiritual, and my spiritual into doing.

God taught the Hebrews about Him using that language to people who thought that way. It brings me closer to Him.
Amen my friend, hebrew is an action language, it's a do language not a ponder language. :)