Is downloading songs, movies etc for free a sin?
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lol, piracy is a sin. Even if only for your own viewing, think about it. The people who wrote the songs or movies, and played them get paid by people purchasing them, Thus it is called steeling, Last I heard steeling was a sin.
As for which sin is worse? (If you break the least of the commands you are guilty of them all. In God's eyes they are both EVIL!
As for which sin is worse? (If you break the least of the commands you are guilty of them all. In God's eyes they are both EVIL!
let me give you an analogy see what you think....
A shop keeper has some goods that he's been selling for decades. Finally someone comes in and makes copies of those goods, and then leaves them laying out in the middle of the public street. So you stumble across them. You see the name on each item made by this manufacturer or that one. So you know who made it, but you don't know how it go into the public street. So you liking the item pick it up and take it home.
So that's the analogy. I don't see any theft coming into play here??
What happens though is that when the artist tours your city you might go see them because you've been listening to them. Or you might by a tshirt for someone off ebay for a gift. Or you tell some people you know about the great new artist, or some other way the artist benefits. I think it's just an evolution of digital media. But the big rights labels want to somehow turn back the clock or go back in time to a day when this wasn't happening. It's just not realistic.
A shop keeper has some goods that he's been selling for decades. Finally someone comes in and makes copies of those goods, and then leaves them laying out in the middle of the public street. So you stumble across them. You see the name on each item made by this manufacturer or that one. So you know who made it, but you don't know how it go into the public street. So you liking the item pick it up and take it home.
So that's the analogy. I don't see any theft coming into play here??
What happens though is that when the artist tours your city you might go see them because you've been listening to them. Or you might by a tshirt for someone off ebay for a gift. Or you tell some people you know about the great new artist, or some other way the artist benefits. I think it's just an evolution of digital media. But the big rights labels want to somehow turn back the clock or go back in time to a day when this wasn't happening. It's just not realistic.
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lol
*now pictures having to sign a contract to buy someone a CD*
*now pictures having to sign a contract to buy someone a CD*
Not the same as copying it
We had this same discussion with cassette tapes. Bands were losing a bunch of money due to piracy and people making copies and giving them away.
Lets say this. What would Jesus do? I do not think he would do this, because he would know it was cheating someone.
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you can't equate the two. You found it. it is like finding a ten dollar bill.
you can't equate this with making an illegal copy of someone elses music, and giving it to someone else.
there are multimillion lawsuits against piracy companies and "free dowload" sights for piracy. not to mention, the federal govt have arrested people for downloading pirated software and songs.
now if someone purchases 100 copies of a song and gives them away to 100 people. that is not piracy.
you can't equate this with making an illegal copy of someone elses music, and giving it to someone else.
there are multimillion lawsuits against piracy companies and "free dowload" sights for piracy. not to mention, the federal govt have arrested people for downloading pirated software and songs.
now if someone purchases 100 copies of a song and gives them away to 100 people. that is not piracy.
Okay let me give you another analogy....
Your at sea on a ship. You hear a battle raging far off. You know there are pirates in the area. You keep sailing. You find some boxes floating that look like Goods. You go get them and bring them aboard. Sure enough they're goods. You know that some pirate or battle likely happened. Some how these ended up in the sea so you take them aboard and use them. It wasn't you fault that someone else has a battle going and ships end up sunk and goods end up floating. So likely some ship is gonna come along and take those goods. I'd say it's kinda like that.
Well I don't know. It's a grey area I guess like a lot of things bottom line. But if I found a brand new cd in the package laying on the street with know ones name on it, of my favorite artist I'd likely pick it up take it home and play it. I mean what's the difference?
Your at sea on a ship. You hear a battle raging far off. You know there are pirates in the area. You keep sailing. You find some boxes floating that look like Goods. You go get them and bring them aboard. Sure enough they're goods. You know that some pirate or battle likely happened. Some how these ended up in the sea so you take them aboard and use them. It wasn't you fault that someone else has a battle going and ships end up sunk and goods end up floating. So likely some ship is gonna come along and take those goods. I'd say it's kinda like that.
Well I don't know. It's a grey area I guess like a lot of things bottom line. But if I found a brand new cd in the package laying on the street with know ones name on it, of my favorite artist I'd likely pick it up take it home and play it. I mean what's the difference?
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I find it amazing that all the legalists are not in here judging this guy, yet a few of us so called licentious people are here telling this man straight up it is sin and he should not do it. You would think we would be telling him go ahead, he will still be saved, if you listen to what they think of us!!
amazing!!
amazing!!
Selenah is right on this. And there are countries where piracy is legal, so you cant tell a person they are sinning when the law allows them.
You can't compare sins, every sin is as bad as the other coz they all lead to hell.
Artists actually make money everytime someone watches a youtube video, its a little complex but it is possible to make money from youtube although it is very little.
God bless
You can't compare sins, every sin is as bad as the other coz they all lead to hell.
Artists actually make money everytime someone watches a youtube video, its a little complex but it is possible to make money from youtube although it is very little.
God bless
i worked with a man that had copied music and movies. he would play them loudly at work during the shift and the doors to the shop were open. i tried to explain to him that i felt it was stealing as the person did not get paid for their labor. he said that they were rich enough and a buck or two wouldn't kill them.
i asked him to imagine this scenario.
you are listening to your cd rocking out while working when a car pulls up outside. shockingly the people who get out of the car are the band that you are currently listening to. they approach you and say how nice it is to meet a fan of their music and could they autograph your copy.
what would you do then i asked him? he said, man that would never happen. i said you better hope not cause you are listening to 50cent and he doesn't seem to react reasonably to people who are stealing from him.
when you copy the music and the movies that you like for free, you are preventing that artist from being paid. they use that money to help fund future projects. if there was no piracy in the world, artist that make them would have larger budgets to make the next even better. if you like the work, pay the worker. the next job they do may be even better.
as for weed, regardless of how people feel, in the united states it is illegal. in other parts of the world it is not illegal. the same is true of alcohol. assuming either is legal to consumer where you are, then moderation,control and personable responsibility come into play. while some would disagree and say it is a sin, the bible clearly shows that not to be the case. Jesus was free of sin and Jesus drank wine. Jesus was at a wedding where they ran out of wine and Jesus turned water into wine for the wedding guest to consume. leading others into sin is a sin. Jesus was free of sin. providing others with wine is not a sin.
i smoked weed for nearly 25 years. i found it to be far preferable to alcohol as it had far fewer physical effects than alcohol, lasted longer and was cheaper. but that entire time i was a sinner. see if you have a few drinks over the course of a year or smoke a few joints over the course of the year, its not an issue. but i did it everyday possible. i was hardly a drunkard with alcohol but i was a drunkard with weed. a wedding, birthday or new years, as example, are events of celebration that can be met with cheer and companionship. but when you are a drunkard, every day is about using. the using becomes the celebration. that my friend is addiction and addiction is a loss of control and moderation. in your teens it seems as if there are large groups of people hanging out together having the party. by your twenties you are down to like five or ten people. by your thirties its you and maybe one or two other people. if its just you sitting around alone getting buzzed, that's not a party and it never will be. i seriously suggest to anyone under the age of 25 to avoid any recreational use of chemicals more than 3 or 4 times a year. to any who disagree, as i used to, by saying, hey i'm not addicted to it i'm just having fun. its you who cant handle it, not me. all i can say is cool, you got it under control, why not take six months off of it then....
duewell
mark 4 v 11-13
the rainbow connection
i asked him to imagine this scenario.
you are listening to your cd rocking out while working when a car pulls up outside. shockingly the people who get out of the car are the band that you are currently listening to. they approach you and say how nice it is to meet a fan of their music and could they autograph your copy.
what would you do then i asked him? he said, man that would never happen. i said you better hope not cause you are listening to 50cent and he doesn't seem to react reasonably to people who are stealing from him.
when you copy the music and the movies that you like for free, you are preventing that artist from being paid. they use that money to help fund future projects. if there was no piracy in the world, artist that make them would have larger budgets to make the next even better. if you like the work, pay the worker. the next job they do may be even better.
as for weed, regardless of how people feel, in the united states it is illegal. in other parts of the world it is not illegal. the same is true of alcohol. assuming either is legal to consumer where you are, then moderation,control and personable responsibility come into play. while some would disagree and say it is a sin, the bible clearly shows that not to be the case. Jesus was free of sin and Jesus drank wine. Jesus was at a wedding where they ran out of wine and Jesus turned water into wine for the wedding guest to consume. leading others into sin is a sin. Jesus was free of sin. providing others with wine is not a sin.
i smoked weed for nearly 25 years. i found it to be far preferable to alcohol as it had far fewer physical effects than alcohol, lasted longer and was cheaper. but that entire time i was a sinner. see if you have a few drinks over the course of a year or smoke a few joints over the course of the year, its not an issue. but i did it everyday possible. i was hardly a drunkard with alcohol but i was a drunkard with weed. a wedding, birthday or new years, as example, are events of celebration that can be met with cheer and companionship. but when you are a drunkard, every day is about using. the using becomes the celebration. that my friend is addiction and addiction is a loss of control and moderation. in your teens it seems as if there are large groups of people hanging out together having the party. by your twenties you are down to like five or ten people. by your thirties its you and maybe one or two other people. if its just you sitting around alone getting buzzed, that's not a party and it never will be. i seriously suggest to anyone under the age of 25 to avoid any recreational use of chemicals more than 3 or 4 times a year. to any who disagree, as i used to, by saying, hey i'm not addicted to it i'm just having fun. its you who cant handle it, not me. all i can say is cool, you got it under control, why not take six months off of it then....
duewell
mark 4 v 11-13
the rainbow connection