One thing very wrong that Catholics do

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MaggieMye

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Concerning the crucifixes with the image of Jesus hanging from the cross: The devil wants to see Jesus dead because that is the victory that he announces in hell, saying that he was the one who killed Him. Each crucifix is a territoital mark to establish death throughout the country. They are decrees that establish the region of Sheol upon the earth.


From the Regions of Captivity by Ana Mendez Ferrell

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Slepsog4

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Now that just sounds goofy. Where is the biblical evidence for such a notion?

Paul told the Corinthians that he determined not to know anything among them but "Christ and Him crucified."
 
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Concerning the crucifixes with the image of Jesus hanging from the cross: The devil wants to see Jesus dead because that is the victory that he announces in hell, saying that he was the one who killed Him. Each crucifix is a territoital mark to establish death throughout the country. They are decrees that establish the region of Sheol upon the earth.


From the Regions of Captivity by Ana Mendez Ferrell

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Actually they do a lot worse like praying to dead people, as for Jesus on the cross. I don't see it as bad thing, I think of it as more of a reminder of why Jesus died for us.
 
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CIR22

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Very wrong things Catholics do is attending the false Gospel and false Jesus preached in the Catholic Church! Confession and Sacraments cannot save you, only the blood of Jesus "cleaseth from all sins!" Catholic Church has murdered true believers, (William Tyndale and scores others) Catholic Jews, and Muslims for refusing to bow at their feet. There is nothing "Good from GOd" In their Church only wickedness and a desperate power struggle.
 
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WENSPI

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yeah.... "catholics are the worse" (ironic)....

This post= Anti-catholic denominational propaganda
 
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millsy

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There are a lot of things that are hidden in the catholic church. That fact that they KEEP Jesus on the cross is not right. They keep Him in a place of death which shows the defeat of Christ and swings away from the victory of his reserection. They use Mary to become that saving grace and in basic terms they totally submit Jesus to Mary which is Idolatry. I recommend a website for anybody that is interested, it is: www.amazingdiscoveries.org
 
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MaggieMye

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Dothackzero: Talking to the dead is forbidden by scripture. It is called necromancy.
Deuteronomy 18:10-12 (King James Version)



10There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch. 11Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
 
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when I see the image of Christ on the cross it reminds me of what he went through for little ole me, thats it thats all. I dont think of satan doing a victory dance in hell, for Christ is risen, and every member of the Catholic church knows he is risen.
 
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necromancy is about trying to raise the dead or conjure the spirits of the dead. Has nothing to do with talking to them, when my mother died I talked to her & definitely dont think theres ANYTHING biblically wrong with this. It is a process of grieving as you say goodbye in the viewing. I didnt talk to the body i talked to the air but i talked just to get it out & i'm pretty sure God doesnt equate that with trying to raise her from the dead.
 
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Daniel10

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Hello friend,

As this is my first post I would like to say to you and every one else that reads this post a very BIG hello and thank you for allowing me to post here.

I have a question in regards to something you posted;

The devil wants to see Jesus dead because that is the victory that he announces in hell, saying that he was the one who killed Him.
My question is this do you believe our arch enemy is the ruler of hell, or is in hell now or is able to go from hell to earth as he pleases.
The reason I ask this question is because you said "announces in hell", can you help me to understand you better.

May the Lord bless

Macarius
 
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Gator

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It is all across the Christian faith, not only Catholics ! Anyone that believe that Jesus is the son of God. And further believes that Jesus went to the cross to die for mine and your sin. Would be afraid or question seeing Jesus hanging on the cross!
Because you Jesus was the only man, woman or child that rose after the devil tried to destroy him. Satan is nothing more than a FLY to be swatted. So who cares what a FLY thinks ... Hmmmm ?
 
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Daniel10

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Hello maggiemye,

Last week I made this post but I forgot to address it to you, sorry for this, anyway here it is again.

As this is my first post I would like to say to you and every one else that reads this post a very BIG hello and thank you for allowing me to post here.

I have a question in regards to something you posted;

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The devil wants to see Jesus dead because that is the victory that he announces in hell, saying that he was the one who killed Him.
My question is this do you believe our arch enemy is the ruler of hell, or is in hell now or is able to go from hell to earth as he pleases.
The reason I ask this question is because you said "announces in hell", can you help me to understand you better.

May the Lord bless

Macarius
 
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leendert

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The problem with the RCC is that they want to keep Jesus on the cross.And whats more they want to offer Him again and again.But dont believe me ,lets give them a chance to talk for themselves.
Bishops and priests being, as they are, God's interpreters and ambassadors, empowered in His name to teach mankind the divine law and the rules of conduct, and holding, as they do, His place on earth, it is evident that no nobler function than theirs can be imagined. Justly, therefore, are they called not only Angels, but even gods, because of the fact that they exercise in our midst the power and prerogatives of the immortal God.
In all ages, priests have been held in the highest honor; yet the priests of the New Testament far exceed all others. For the power of consecrating and offering the body and blood of our Lord and of forgiving sins, which has been conferred on them, not only has nothing equal or like it on earth, but even surpasses human reason and understanding.
Source: The Catechism of the Council of Trent (The Roman Catechism), translated by John A McHugh, O.P., S.T.M., LITT.D. and Charles J. Callan, O.P., S.T.M., LITT.D., published by Tan Books and Publishers, Inc., Copyright 1992, Rockford, Illinois, 61105, Sacrament of Holy Orders,
Dignity of this Sacrament, page 318.
Power of Consecrating
The third great power of the priestly office is the climax of all. It is the power of consecrating. "No act is greater," says saint Thomas, "than the consecration of the body of Christ." In this essential phase of the sacred ministry, the power of the priest is not surpassed by that of the bishop, the archbishop, the cardinal or the pope. Indeed it is equal to that of Jesus Christ. For in this role the priest speaks with the voice and the authority of God Himself.
When the priest pronounces the tremendous words of consecration, he reaches up into the heaven, brings Christ down from His throne, and places Him upon our altar to be offered up again as the victim for the sins of man. It is a power greater than that of monarchs and emperors. It is greater than that of saints and angels, greater than that of Seraphim and Cherubim. Indeed, it is greater than the power of the Virgin Mary. While the blessed virgin was the human agency by which Christ became incarnate a single time, the priest brings Christ down from heaven, and renders Him present on our altar as the eternal victim for the sins of man-not once, but, a thousand times! The priest speaks and lo! Christ the eternal and omnipotent God, bows His head in humble obedience to the priest's command.
[pg.271] Of what sublime dignity is the office of the Christian priest who is thus privileged to act as the ambassador and the vicegerent of Christ on earth. He continues the essential ministry of Christ - he teaches the faithful with the authority of Christ, he offers up again the same sacrifice of adoration and atonement which Christ offered on Calvary. No wonder that the name which spiritual writers are especially fond of applying to the priest is that of "alter Christus." For the priest is and should be another Christ.
Source: Faith of Millions, by Reverend John A. O'brien, Copyright 1938, published by Our Sunday Visitor, Huntington Indiana, page 270, 271.
Thus the priest may, in a certain manner, be called the creator of his Creator, ...
"The power of the priest," says St. Bernadine of Sienna, "is the power of the divine person; for the transubstantiation of the bread requires as much power as the creation of the world."
As the Word of God created heaven and earth, so, says St. Jerome, the words of the priest create Jesus Christ.
Source: The Dignity and Duties of the Priest or Selva, by St. Alphonsus de Liguori, translated from the Italian, edited by Eugene Grimm, copyright 1927 by Very Rev. James Barron, C.SS.R, pgs. 32, 33.
 

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What is the purpose of carrying the crucifixes? Is that the Catholics' idea of Mark 8:34 (...take up your cross and follow me)?
 
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wwjd_kilden

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Question: What is the definition of a god? (note: A god, not God)

I'm thinkng of two things:
Mammon (or however you spell it) and the Catholics praying to saints

1st commandment...
 
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Jair

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Man you guys sure know how to rave on about things you know nothing about.

Thank you Starfield for asking a question of clarification and not a statement of condemnation.
And Thank you Imoss for your heart-felt post.

Personally I think this thread should be deleted as all it aimed to do was put down a particular Christian church.

First of all Catholics have NO intention of "Keeping Jesus on the Cross"

Catholics believe as ALL Christians do that Jesus is in Heaven now: "Preparing a place for us"
Catholics know that the Risen Christ still has His wounds. (John 20:27)
Catholics know that Jesus died for us on a cross, and this act should be remembered and not forgotten.

It should be remembered because we too must:
"Drink the cup that Jesus drank from, and be Baptised with the same Baptism Jesus was Baptised with"

Catholics ARE born again Christians too!
Catholics worship God ALONE!

Please stop condemning people you don't understand.

in love, your brother in Christ,


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wwjd_kilden

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so Catholics don't pray to Mary? (if you/ they don't, you definitely need to do something about all the movies showing that), cause I've been thinking they do all the time
 
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Baptistrw

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Man you guys sure know how to rave on about things you know nothing about.

Thank you Starfield for asking a question of clarification and not a statement of condemnation.
And Thank you Imoss for your heart-felt post.

Personally I think this thread should be deleted as all it aimed to do was put down a particular Christian church.

First of all Catholics have NO intention of "Keeping Jesus on the Cross"

Catholics believe as ALL Christians do that Jesus is in Heaven now: "Preparing a place for us"
Catholics know that the Risen Christ still has His wounds. (John 20:27)
Catholics know that Jesus died for us on a cross, and this act should be remembered and not forgotten.

It should be remembered because we too must:
"Drink the cup that Jesus drank from, and be Baptised with the same Baptism Jesus was Baptised with"

Catholics ARE born again Christians too!
Catholics worship God ALONE!

Please stop condemning people you don't understand.

in love, your brother in Christ,


Jair
Not accurate. http://www.chick.com/reading/books/160/160cont.asp A comparison between the Cathechism and the Bible. You'll see Catholicism is not Christianity.
 
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MaggieMye

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My question is this do you believe our arch enemy is the ruler of hell, or is in hell now or is able to go from hell to earth as he pleases.
The reason I ask this question is because you said "announces in hell", can you help me to understand you better.
Satan is fully able to go between hell, heaven and earth. He is not limited and there is no scripture saying that he is limited. He remains 'free to roam' until he gets locked up for the 1000 years.


Bishops and priests being, God's interpreters and ambassadors, empowered in His name to teach mankind the divine law and the rules of conduct, and holding, as they do, His place on earth, it is evident that no nobler function than theirs can be imagined. Wrong. See Gen 40:8, 2 Pet 1:20 Justly, therefore, are they called not only Angels, but even gods, because of the fact that they exercise in our midst the power and prerogatives of the immortal God. All of which is completely anti-Biblical and anti-Godly. No one has the right to exercise or issue prerogatives of God, but the Holy Spirit.
In all ages, priests have been held in the highest honor; yet the priests of the New Testament far exceed all others.
Wrong again: Revelation 1:6
and He has made us to be a kingdom, priests to His God and Father-- to Him be the glory and the dominion forever and ever
. Amen For the power of consecrating and offering the body and blood of our Lord and of forgiving sins, which has been conferred on them, not only has nothing equal or like it on earth, but even surpasses human reason and understanding. Do you see how deceptive that is? The priesthood is of ALL believers, not just certain men that bow to Rome. EVERY believer is given the commission to take Communion every day: " Give us this day our DAILY bread" and Acts 2:26 "
And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
Source: The Catechism of the Council of Trent (The Roman Catechism), Rockford, these writings loose ALL credibility when they go against the Word of God.

The third great power of the priestly office is the climax of all. It is the power of consecrating. "No act is greater," says saint Thomas,which means nothing because he is mere man and his teachings defy scripture. "than the consecration of the body of Christ." Any believer can consecrate any thing to the Lord…we are ALL priests, per scripture.In this essential phase of the sacred ministry, the power of the priest is not surpassed by that of the bishop, the archbishop, the cardinal or the pope. Indeed it is equal to that of Jesus Christ. Wow..that's blasphemy. How is it than any man can equate themselves to GOD??? That is the epitome of pride and rebellion. For in this role the priest speaks with the voice and the authority of God Himself. Which God has not given. That type of thinking is OT at best.
When the priest pronounces the tremendous words of consecration, he reaches up into the heaven, brings Christ down from His throne, and places Him upon our altar to be offered up again as the victim for the sins of man.
PLEASE TELL ME YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT! THAT IS HERESY, BLASPHEMY AND OUTRIGHT LIES! No man can bring Christ down from Heaven. He comes of HIS will, not ours. And offering Him up on an alter AGAIN is simply disgusting as it says the ONE TIME sacrifice of His life and the shedding of His blood WAS NOT ENOUGH and Jesus said "IT IS FINISHED" I'll not address the rest of this rhetoric as it is, none of it, found in God's written word but rather in the writings of deceived man.

First of all Catholics have NO intention of "Keeping Jesus on the Cross"

Catholics believe as ALL Christians do that Jesus is in Heaven now: "Preparing a place for us"
Jesus is in MY heart and the hearts of Every true Christian

Catholics know that the Risen Christ still has His wounds. (John 20:27)
Catholics know that Jesus died for us on a cross, and this act should be remembered and not forgotten.
Remember, yes, but not repeated!!

Catholics ARE born again Christians too!
Some are. Most are not. Being 'born again', or 'born of God' is NOT something that comes with the physical birth into a family of Catholics.
Catholics worship God ALONE!
No they don't. They pray to 'saints', they pray to Mary, all of which are dead and buried therefore taking part in necromancy.

Please stop condemning people you don't understand.
I was raised Catholic. I DO understand and know what I'm talking about. Take a year, don't go to church, but read ONLY YOUR BIBLE (no other Catholic books) for that year.
Maggie
 
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