a spirit of suicide??

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Charlotte91

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i can use it to minister to others because there is a fund being started in her memory n the funding in going towards a programme for depression that was closed now by gov cause of lack of funding, so it will help others like her to get on the road to recovery n i didnt say good christian i said strong . n y u saying disobedient christian ???. n God looks at the good in us not the bad.
 
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missy2shoes

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Charlotte, is that your friend in ya avatar pic?
 
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Charlotte91

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nope it isnt that my other friend but the girl who commit suicide was really really pretty but was bullied n al even at a christian camp the week b4 she died
 
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Lauren

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Charlotte,

I'm very sorry to hear about your friend. I pray for peace for you during this time.

~ lauren
 
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Charlotte91

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thank u lauren but just pray the same wont happen to anyone else n for her family n close friends
but thank you
 
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e-Sword86

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i dont bout it helped n would u stop getting at me am upset enough by her death n christians r meant to b caring ppl nt critising ppl u r meant to be like God but i dont see that thru u n maggie n that hurts , u just r stuck in ur own world not looking at the pain n suffering she went thru serve depession she lost 70 pounds in six months n was having a battle with the devil n in the end she was just goin on God's strength . and how many 16 year olds do ya know that gave up all there free time for God n yous r 23 and 52 how many ppl have u helped come to the Lord . n i kno killing herself wasnt the best way to go but just remeber she is in heaven free from the pain.
It's true some people always want to prove a point about something but I pray the Lord comforts u during ur time of grief. I know what it's like to lose a friend like that. It is very difficult.
 
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Baptistrw

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i can use it to minister to others because there is a fund being started in her memory n the funding in going towards a programme for depression that was closed now by gov cause of lack of funding, so it will help others like her to get on the road to recovery n i didnt say good christian i said strong . n y u saying disobedient christian ???. n God looks at the good in us not the bad.
If she committed suicide, she is a disobedient Christian. God looks at us, good and bad. We'll be judged for rewards by our works, we'll lose rewards for the bad and gain rewards for the good.
 
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e-Sword86

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If she committed suicide it's because she needed much prayer and counseling.
 

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Charlotte91:

I am so sorry for your loss. Such an excruciatingly painful and devastating thing to see happen to someone you care about. You and the family of your friend will be in my prayers. May God give you comfort.

Dave
 
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Charlotte91

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she had counseling but wouldnt open up n in the end she was just goin on Gods strength in the end n thank you soo much e-sword n baptist am sorry ur upsetting me so i dont wanna talk to u
 
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Charlotte91

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o n thank u dave
 
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carpetmanswife

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this thread was not started to question anyones faith ,that is NOT our job... lets plz be sensitive to others pain here..Charolette im truly sorry for your loss..
 
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MaggieMye

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The QUESTION was 'Is there a spirit of Suicide?'. I was attempting to show that yes, and how it works on those that are not knowledgeable about the word, God's character, and the spiritual realm, and how mature Christians should be able to recognize it and take authority over it. The original post did not say there were friends, just that they knew each other.
I did not intend any disrespect.
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Yes, there is a spirit of suicide

That was a very direct question and I felt it deserved a direct answer

Markhelp
 
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Baptistrw

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she had counseling but wouldnt open up n in the end she was just goin on Gods strength in the end n thank you soo much e-sword n baptist am sorry ur upsetting me so i dont wanna talk to u
lol because I made you think? Sad...
 
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carpetmanswife

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this is understandably a very sensitive topic for many, once again id ask if we cant be sensitive to others feelings about it id prefer a person not even post in it , otherwise i ask for it to be removed off the threads all together.
 

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God is the God of our salvation and the issues of death belong to the Lord (Ps 68:20). Satan is the God of this world (2Cor 4:4), he is the father of all lies and is a murderer from the beginning (John 8:44). He walks to and fro through the earth (Job 1:7,2:2) seeking whom he may devour (1Pt 5:8). He is angry (Rev 12:12) and is an accuser (Rev 12:10). When Satan approached God concerning Job, God told him that he could touch all that Job had, but upon him, Satan could not touch (Job 1:12). When Jesus was in the wilderness praying and fasting, Satan came to tempt Him to cast Himself down from the pinnacle of the temple (Mt 4:5-7). In (1John 5;18) the wicked one touches us not.

With these verses of scripture we can see that we have an adversary (1Pt 5:8). This adversary is out to destroy lives as the god of this world, through the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes and the pride of life (1John 2:16). He has devices and strategies to accomplish what is in his heart, which we are not to be ignorant of (2Cor 2:11). With these deceives, the whole world lies (or is set in place) in the wickedness of his authority (1John 5:19). That authority is the iniquity that was found in him (Ez 28:15) and is the mystery of iniquity that is presently working in this world system (2Th 2:7). He knows that the flesh of man is weak (Mt 26:41) and has been testing it since the time of Adam in the garden of Eden. Satan wants total dominion over all that God has created that lives as inhabitants of the earth (Lk 10:18, Rev 12:4,9,10, 17:2).

Satan could not take Job's life but he most definitely tried to get him to take his own (Job 2 & 3). Elijah ran for fear of his life because of Jezebel and under a juniper tree asked God to take his life but God rescued him through an angel (1Kgs 19:4,5). Saul was anointed king of Israel who disobeyed the voice of God and in battle had been severely wounded to the point of death. Knowing he would die and not wanting the enemy to thrust him through when they found him, he asked his armour bearer to finish him off, who refused, so Saul layed upon his own sword. Not being dead yet, a young Amalekite man came across Saul, who asked the Amalekite to finish him off and did (1Sam 31:1-6, 2Sam 1:8-10). Saul died in battle.

Think of the number of times that people have tried to commit suicide but failed, while others have succeeded. There is so much subjectivity involved in whether or not someone committed suicide, dealing with intent or from bad judgment or mistakes through negligence, that it should be left up to the one that God has committed all judgment to (John 5:22). Could we say that a person who commits a crime, knowing that the punishment is death, would be issuing his own death warrant as a form of judicial suicide because he regards not the life of others or his own? At the same time there are those cases that have no doubt as to intent and execution. Judas, as a disciple and a case in point, hanged himself because the guilt of betraying the innocent blood of the Son of man. He went to his place that was purchased with the (30) pieces of silver (Mt 27:3-10, Acts 1:18-20,25, Ps 69:25-28) with the reward of iniquity (Acts 1:18). He went as the son of perdition (John 17:12). These are some things to consider so that you can come to your own convictions.
 
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Lauren

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lol because I made you think? Sad...
Why would you be ridiculing someone who just lost a good friend? Whatever manner she died, whether she was Christian or not, why would you be acting insensitive like that?

 
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MaggieMye

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She never said it was a 'good friend'. She said it was someone she used to work with.
 
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carpetmanswife

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the original post was made by me and someone i worked with yes. the confusion has been charolette posted about her good friend then suddenly her friends realtionship with God was questioned...thats what i was talkin about ..that is uncalled for in my opinion.
 
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