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    I was raised Baptist and I grew up with Baptist beliefs. My mom got married to my stepdad...who is a Messianic Christian. I'm sorta conflicted with these teachings. This whole way of worshiping is very new to me, and I just wondered if there is anybody else who have the same beliefs?
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    You are only 14!! How adult you must be. I am 87! I am going to talk to you as if you are completely adult.

    I worship in both the Messianic and Baptist church. I find the messianic church very satisfying. I find them much more knowledgeable about what God is telling us about His principles in the Old Testament. I was bewildered for awhile. Messianic teaches we should learn the principles God taught through the rituals. Other churches sometime teach the rituals are wrong. Messianic learn about the animal sacrifices as a symbol of Christ and His more complete sacrifice and an explanation of what Christ accomplished. Other churches sometimes teach that the sacrificial system was all wrong. Messianic say God is eternal, He never changes. They learn about all the covenants, other churches sometimes teach that God made a mistake in the first, wiped them out, and made a completely new covenant. Messianic say we need to understand the OT to understand the NT. It is like going to grammar school before you get to high school. Other churches say there was such a change in Christ that the OT does not apply that much to us.

    Messianic ideas were new to me when I first heard of them. As I searched scripture and the history of the ideas that developed as our earthly church developed, I simply cried. But as I search, pray, and study scripture, they really make sense to me.

    The only thing that God asks of you is to love the Lord with all your mind, heart, and soul and others as yourself. Both the Messianic and Baptists do that. They both understand the true God, and accept Christ as the Messiah. I think you can truly go to either to worship your Lord.
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    One of the first things that hit me was "Wow..this is so deep." All the Hebrew words and concepts...it put a whole new twist on things. As far as the understand the OT to understanding the NT...that was a foreign concept. I was always taught that the OT was the past and the NT was what stood for today. Whereas, in the Messianic Church, the OT was where the main teachings were found. The first time I went with my stepdad, their teachings just blew me away with how in depth they were. I'm not quite sure about the whole thing because it's very different from the Baptist, but I really do think there is a lot to gain from the Messianic. I just have to get used to it. It also amazed me how they would take from the OT and connect the dots to the NT...which I was never taught that and how everything is related. I think it's going to take some getting used to but I think I'm going to like it...i'm just not completely sure yet.
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    There is a lot to learn in this book of love that God has given us. You are right! It is deep! Deeper than we know. We just need to dig in to figure it out!
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    Its very sad that we deal with such a discrepancy. I believe that the OT is all about Jesus when you look at it carefully, that the more you understand about the OT the more you understand God and why He did what He did on and through the cross. It is sad that so many have ignored the OT and as such damaged their understanding of the NT. It is cool that Messianic Churches get that and I strive for and hope that all churches everywhere would get that too (not saying that none do, but that there could and should be more). A radio DJ said recently that 99% of christians don't believe in the bible literally as a whole and though I think his number might be a bit high. . .from my experience and knowledge he sadly isn't as far off as I wish he was.

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    Jeremiah 6:16 This is what the LORD says: "Stand at the crossroads and look; ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is, and walk in it, and you will find rest for your souls. But you said, 'We will not walk in it.

    I have gone to just about every Christian church branch there is. I find it comforting to see how the GOD of the new Testament and old testament are the Same GOD that he does not change. I find the Prayer shawl such an act of love
    . It is like God’s own tassel has covered the sky to remind us of his instructions. Each fringe we are to put on the four corners of our garment has 39 windings In between five sets of 2 knots. The 39 windings correspondences to the numerical value of the Hebrew phrase “Yahweh Echad. ( YHVH is one). DEUTERONOMY 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one (echad) LORD. This makes me think of Yeshua with the unbroken law inside him. He received 39 lashes. Yeshua is pictured in the tassel.

    Deuteronomy 25:3 but he must not give him more than forty lashes. If he is flogged more than that, your brother will be degraded in your eyes

    2 Corinthians 11:24 Five times I received from the Jews the forty lashes minus one

    The modest dress, The prays of old, Messianicteaching open up the wordof Godto my spirit like nothing I have ever heard before. We just celebrated Shavuot /Pentecost. It was so beautiful the dancing in the lifting up of the bread. At one point the whole Synagogue was dancing. The blowing of the Shofar. The reading of the book of Ruth. Boaz and Ruth’s Child was that one new man, both Jew and gentile together as one.

    When we watch the Torah go around the room, Reminding us to keep our eyes on him and his word. When the Torah is being put back and we hold our tassel and point our little finger toward the Torah. What does this remind us of ? Micah 6:8 He has showed you, O man, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God
    Justice = Torah, Mercy = Tassel , Humbly = little finger
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    It really is sad. All throughout the OT people are prophesying the coming of the lord, and if you look closely at some verses you can see they are refering to the Messiah who has not yet come. They prophesied things that have already taken place in the NT and things that are yet to take place. And if they don't unerstand the OT...then how are they going to look for the signs for things that are going to happen in the future?
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    The deep things of God bring us to a place of laying our life down for the brethren. Jesus did it when he laid His life down for us and I don't think that anyone would dare say that He did not understand the deep things of God. There are those that are feed with the milk of the word all the time and have not been weaned and never grow in grace and meat of the word.

    The deep things of God teach us to grow in grace and knowledge.

    The deep things of God teach us to be led by and to walk in the Spirit.

    The deep things of God teach the believer to make no provision for the flesh.

    The deep things of God are those things the Spirit teaches that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

    The deep things of God have to do with the mystery of the church and the body of Christ being revealed under the new covenant.

    The deep things of God reveal Christ as the head of the church and that we are members of His body, flesh and bones.

    The deep things of God is the superabundant greater grace that abounds toward the believer when they least deserve it.

    The deep things of God reveal how we are built together as a habitation of God through the Spirit.

    The deep things of God are all the promises of God that are yea and amen and through them the believer is a partaker of God's divine nature.

    These are the deep things of God that are revealed to us by the Spirit in the church that are FREELY given to us and FREELY received so that it is ALL GRACE and none of it BY WORKS!

    If the Messianic Christian believes in the deep things of God, then they will demonstrate them through a laid down life that esteems others better than themselves because they are crucified with CHRIST and live in the blood of the new testament covenant that has justified them by faith through the Spirit and not through any works or adherence to the law of the commandments through the flesh.
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    I've heard of Messianic Judaism, but never Messianic Christianity. Aren't all Christians 'Messianic'?

    Please elaborate! This is interesting.
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