Catholic Heresy (for the record)
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No, you misunderstand, thinking you are always under attack when one shares with you. Stop being offended for God's sake. He does not need your defense. Believe the Word and share it,without continually telling everyone else how wrong they are. The faith of Abraham was given to all by Jesus, Yeshua, and HIs gospel should be our main daily bread, not doctrines of men. Come drink of the water of life freely............
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No,
You misunderstand
I was fighting their own argument with their own argument.
it has nothing to do with me being offended. No one can offend me, I am in christ.
do you even read?? You never counter an argument with a counter argument to show them how much their argument fails. and shows them to be hypocrites, who claim you do something they themselves do?
You misunderstand
I was fighting their own argument with their own argument.
it has nothing to do with me being offended. No one can offend me, I am in christ.
do you even read?? You never counter an argument with a counter argument to show them how much their argument fails. and shows them to be hypocrites, who claim you do something they themselves do?
Jesus is the Bible the word of God.
You dont know the Bible you do NOT know Jesus
there is no such thing as a catholic who knows Jesus who has never read their Bible.
Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Mat 7:24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
You dont know the Bible you do NOT know Jesus
there is no such thing as a catholic who knows Jesus who has never read their Bible.
Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Mat 7:24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
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my family was catholic to start back in the sixties when I was young I could never understand praying to a statue? and after reading and understanding the word of God this totally against Gods word. There is no difference between a golden calf and a statue of some person. there is only one person that we need to pray to and that's Jesus...
I know this sites in need of funds but I cannot and will not donate a dime or even a penny of my hard earned money going to something against my own faith if I know the leaders to this site would post a "sticky" on an anti-catholic thread that promotes hatred to those who are Catholic and especially if the leaders blatantly attack Roman Catholics (in which I am one). I am giving to God by giving to my local Catholic church and to the Bishops faith appeal. Anybody else who donates, well that is their choice. They should of left this thread get buried into history never to be revived again.
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i would not call it hate against anyone, it is just ones view of a particular church which gets talked about over and over, Nothing wrong with stating ones view. especially on a topic which gets quite heated again over and over. (and yes, quite a few of your brothers and sisters have come in hear hating on us so called protestants, so it is not one way!
The admins here will not attack individuals over their beliefs. They have taken a position that the doctrines taught by the Roman Catholic Church are in fact not biblical. There are many doctrines of the Catholic Church are obviously in direct contradiction of what Jesus taught. This is often seen as a personal attack when it is really a refutation of Catholic Church doctrinal error and is not aimed at any one individual. Most Catholics I know do not support many of their own churches teachings. I have been married into a catholic family for nearly forty years. I have had many discussions with them over the years. I have had priests avoid me because they do not want to or cannot defend many of the Catholic Churches teachings.
There are some Christians in the Catholic Church and there are some Christians in the mainline denominational churches as well. The real nasty part of the discussion is that the Catholic Church teaches grace through rites and ordinances. Grace through obedience yet they fail to obey these things themselves. I mean what can be said when even the Pope is not assured heaven without a stay in purgatory?? Tradition over bible doctrine is never a good plan.
I do not want to get started on money and the Catholic Church. Seen too many golden altars in places where the people are starving in the streets.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
There are some Christians in the Catholic Church and there are some Christians in the mainline denominational churches as well. The real nasty part of the discussion is that the Catholic Church teaches grace through rites and ordinances. Grace through obedience yet they fail to obey these things themselves. I mean what can be said when even the Pope is not assured heaven without a stay in purgatory?? Tradition over bible doctrine is never a good plan.
I do not want to get started on money and the Catholic Church. Seen too many golden altars in places where the people are starving in the streets.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
The bottom line is all hatred is bad, no matter who the target is. Even those who post hate threads against Protestants and Non-Catholics are wrong too and they should of been corrected but this is no excuse to bash and put down all Catholic people. This is equivalent to Adolf Hitler and his Nazi party green police sending all the Jewish People to concentration camps back during World War II Nazi Germany just because they are Jewish. The point is they should of posted a thread addressing heresy in general and to let people know that they will not tolerate it and left the Catholic church out of it.
When you depart from this world, will you still be so loyal to the Catholic church? Will you even care?
Scripture is very clear on this matter, salvation is not in, or of, the Catholic church, nor is it in Mary, Jesus' earthly mother, nor is it in any other denomination, IT IS IN JESUS, the Christ, the Son of the Living God, AND IN NO OTHER!!! Instead of fighting for a denomination, why don't you spend your efforts fighting for the truth. The way I see it, this thread isn't about bashing a denomination, but against those exalting a person who had to receive Jesus as her lord and savior, just like every person that went to heaven. It is about standing up for the truth in the word of God, which basically is the gospel. Like Jesus said, I AM THE [ONLY] WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE, NO MAN COMETH UNTO THE FATHER, BUT BY ME.
The Ephesians also worshiped a female goddess, and sought to silence men of God.
Act 19:24 For a certain man named Demetrius, a silversmith, which made silver shrines for Diana, brought no small gain unto the craftsmen;
Act 19:25 Whom he called together with the workmen of like occupation, and said, Sirs, ye know that by this craft we have our wealth.
Act 19:26 Moreover ye see and hear, that not alone at Ephesus, but almost throughout all Asia, this Paul hath persuaded and turned away much people, saying that they be no gods, which are made with hands:
Act 19:27 So that not only this our craft is in danger to be set at nought; but also that the temple of the great goddess Diana should be despised, and her magnificence should be destroyed, whom all Asia and the world worshippeth.
Act 19:28 And when they heard these sayings, they were full of wrath, and cried out, saying, Great is Diana of the Ephesians.
Act 19:29 And the whole city was filled with confusion: and having caught Gaius and Aristarchus, men of Macedonia, Paul's companions in travel, they rushed with one accord into the theatre.
Act 19:30 And when Paul would have entered in unto the people, the disciples suffered him not.
Act 19:31 And certain of the chief of Asia, which were his friends, sent unto him, desiring him that he would not adventure himself into the theatre.
Act 19:32 Some therefore cried one thing, and some another: for the assembly was confused; and the more part knew not wherefore they were come together.
Act 19:33 And they drew Alexander out of the multitude, the Jews putting him forward. And Alexander beckoned with the hand, and would have made his defence unto the people.
Act 19:34 But when they knew that he was a Jew, all with one voice about the space of two hours cried out, Great is Diana of the Ephesians.
Act 19:35 And when the townclerk had appeased the people, he said, Ye men of Ephesus, what man is there that knoweth not how that the city of the Ephesians is a worshipper of the great goddess Diana, and of the image which fell down from Jupiter?
Scripture is very clear on this matter, salvation is not in, or of, the Catholic church, nor is it in Mary, Jesus' earthly mother, nor is it in any other denomination, IT IS IN JESUS, the Christ, the Son of the Living God, AND IN NO OTHER!!! Instead of fighting for a denomination, why don't you spend your efforts fighting for the truth. The way I see it, this thread isn't about bashing a denomination, but against those exalting a person who had to receive Jesus as her lord and savior, just like every person that went to heaven. It is about standing up for the truth in the word of God, which basically is the gospel. Like Jesus said, I AM THE [ONLY] WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE, NO MAN COMETH UNTO THE FATHER, BUT BY ME.
The Ephesians also worshiped a female goddess, and sought to silence men of God.
Act 19:24 For a certain man named Demetrius, a silversmith, which made silver shrines for Diana, brought no small gain unto the craftsmen;
Act 19:25 Whom he called together with the workmen of like occupation, and said, Sirs, ye know that by this craft we have our wealth.
Act 19:26 Moreover ye see and hear, that not alone at Ephesus, but almost throughout all Asia, this Paul hath persuaded and turned away much people, saying that they be no gods, which are made with hands:
Act 19:27 So that not only this our craft is in danger to be set at nought; but also that the temple of the great goddess Diana should be despised, and her magnificence should be destroyed, whom all Asia and the world worshippeth.
Act 19:28 And when they heard these sayings, they were full of wrath, and cried out, saying, Great is Diana of the Ephesians.
Act 19:29 And the whole city was filled with confusion: and having caught Gaius and Aristarchus, men of Macedonia, Paul's companions in travel, they rushed with one accord into the theatre.
Act 19:30 And when Paul would have entered in unto the people, the disciples suffered him not.
Act 19:31 And certain of the chief of Asia, which were his friends, sent unto him, desiring him that he would not adventure himself into the theatre.
Act 19:32 Some therefore cried one thing, and some another: for the assembly was confused; and the more part knew not wherefore they were come together.
Act 19:33 And they drew Alexander out of the multitude, the Jews putting him forward. And Alexander beckoned with the hand, and would have made his defence unto the people.
Act 19:34 But when they knew that he was a Jew, all with one voice about the space of two hours cried out, Great is Diana of the Ephesians.
Act 19:35 And when the townclerk had appeased the people, he said, Ye men of Ephesus, what man is there that knoweth not how that the city of the Ephesians is a worshipper of the great goddess Diana, and of the image which fell down from Jupiter?
No. He doesn't hate Catholics, and that is a pretty strong statement to make that is rather uncalled for. He doesn't agree with their doctrine. Hate and disagreeing are two different things. Robo is also within scripture according to Eph 5:11-12.
Also, if you had actually read the entire thread you would know that he has not "bashed all Catholic people".
This is also ChristianChat, NOT Nazi Germany. Robo is not Hitler, and I am pretty sure he doesn't have an concentration camps set up to kill Catholics. So comparing this thread to WW2 is rather appalling.
Please understand that disagreeing is not HATE. I don't agree with many people on here, but I certainly don't hate them. Hate is a strong word. Its also a pretty difficult definition if you think exposing heresy = hate.
Sitting around and turning a blind eye to heretic doctrine and refusing to bring others to the light is hate though.
Also, if you had actually read the entire thread you would know that he has not "bashed all Catholic people".
This is also ChristianChat, NOT Nazi Germany. Robo is not Hitler, and I am pretty sure he doesn't have an concentration camps set up to kill Catholics. So comparing this thread to WW2 is rather appalling.
Please understand that disagreeing is not HATE. I don't agree with many people on here, but I certainly don't hate them. Hate is a strong word. Its also a pretty difficult definition if you think exposing heresy = hate.
Sitting around and turning a blind eye to heretic doctrine and refusing to bring others to the light is hate though.