Divorce and Remarriage
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you think..you believe...what does GOD SAY and THINK follow him for what he says goes.....our thoughts are religeon Jesus died by religeous people,what he said did not agree with there own ideas...!
1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Mt 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Good NEWS acts 2.38
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how about 1 Corinthians 6:11- And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.--- that's the mercy and grace I was talking about. WE as Christians are not going to be damned to hell for getting a divorce and getting remarried. I mean it's not God's initial plan but God can make good come out of it. I believe it was the religious people who were stuck on the word of the law instead of the spirit of the law. Not because they had their own thoughts. What they said to Jesus was straight from the Bible they just didn't understand the heart behind the law.
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Ro 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
what Jesus said not good enough !?
2Pe 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
yes we were as part of the world and what they accept But NOW (if christian) we are washed (baptizm) cleansed (by his blood with the Holy Ghost)dont turn back (remember Lots wife
)1Co 3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
Ro 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
what Jesus said not good enough !?
2Pe 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
yes we were as part of the world and what they accept But NOW (if christian) we are washed (baptizm) cleansed (by his blood with the Holy Ghost)dont turn back (remember Lots wife
)1Co 3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
I believe each person in thier heart in Jesus must go before God in prayer for the answer.
Because it is before God that the truth lays in the heart.
Because it is not about the justiication for divorce or remarraige that matters, but if in ones heart, they were trully one before God.
God bless
pickles
Because it is before God that the truth lays in the heart.
Because it is not about the justiication for divorce or remarraige that matters, but if in ones heart, they were trully one before God.
God bless
pickles
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I think the Bible is pretty clear on being against divorce and remarriage.
More than that, it is PRO good, godly marriages. The Bible gives great detail on what good relationships are, what good marriages look like and how to stay faithful.
I know it is better to marry than to burn, but keep in mind who he was talking to! Are you really a Corinthian and can't stop yourself from being a sexual deviant? So you should marry literally anyone that's willing because you're sexing anything that moves?
Or are you a Christian who takes marriage seriously enough to be ready for it, pick a partner who is ready for it and commit to having Christ at the center? Are you the kind of Christian that turns to the Bible FIRST when relationship issues arise? If you are this person, divorce and remarriage will not become questions that plague your life.
More than that, it is PRO good, godly marriages. The Bible gives great detail on what good relationships are, what good marriages look like and how to stay faithful.
I know it is better to marry than to burn, but keep in mind who he was talking to! Are you really a Corinthian and can't stop yourself from being a sexual deviant? So you should marry literally anyone that's willing because you're sexing anything that moves?
Or are you a Christian who takes marriage seriously enough to be ready for it, pick a partner who is ready for it and commit to having Christ at the center? Are you the kind of Christian that turns to the Bible FIRST when relationship issues arise? If you are this person, divorce and remarriage will not become questions that plague your life.
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IMHO, if a believer, is married to an unbeliever and the the unbeliever want a divorce I don't see, anything wrong with remarriage (I Corinthians 7:12-16). If a woman or even a man is being physically abuse in a marriage I don't think God is gonna condemned that person for getting a divorce and remarrying if they cannot contain. For God commands that a godly marriage, deals with woman submitting, and the man loving (Ephesians 5:22-25).
In an abusive marry the one reasponsible for abusing the other, is worst than an infidel (I Timothy 5:8), for this person is not providing for his/her house.
In an abusive marry the one reasponsible for abusing the other, is worst than an infidel (I Timothy 5:8), for this person is not providing for his/her house.
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Believers shouldn't marry unbelievers for this reason.
Everything you just said sounds nice, but it's not totally correct. Even with reasonable grounds for divorce, that doesn't mean automatic support for remarriage. It's not an easy pill to swallow, but when divorced people remarry, they are committing adultery.... all the time, every day. Pretending you're not sinning only stops you from asking forgiveness.
Try harder to get it right the first time!!! This is serious stuff!
Everything you just said sounds nice, but it's not totally correct. Even with reasonable grounds for divorce, that doesn't mean automatic support for remarriage. It's not an easy pill to swallow, but when divorced people remarry, they are committing adultery.... all the time, every day. Pretending you're not sinning only stops you from asking forgiveness.
Try harder to get it right the first time!!! This is serious stuff!
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Wow. So it's automatically our fault for not getting it right if we were in a relationship that didn't work?
If my husband didn't love me, and never did, and was unfaithful and constantly condemned me for not being 'good enough' (in various different ways).
If he refused to give me children, and refused to get a job to support us, and made us live bouncing between spare bedrooms at friends/families places.
If he had no desire to gain more spiritual knowledge or grow in faith. If he had no desire to be a 'leader'.
If he looked at porn, was unfaithful, and blamed me for his actions because I wasn't 'attractive' enough for him.. and THEN despite all this I stay.. and the one day he decides he no longer wants to be married.. then it must be MY fault?
So, you're saying despite all this. Despite that I was in a marriage that certainly wasn't as God intended marriage to be, a marriage without love, where I was devalued and belittled, where I was expected to work and support us, where I was the only one who wanted a spiritual input in the relationship.. that DESPITE all of that (even when I stayed until HE decided he no longer wanted to be married)... that if I met someone else who REALLY DID LOVE me, and chose to re-marry that I'd be committing adultery? I could write you a book about the issues I faced in my marriage (the ones listed above barely scratch the surface). I TRIED to make it work, I cried out to God.. but you cannot change a person who doesnt want to change. In the end he made his choice..I have to accept it and move on.
I find that a hard pill to swalliow since throughout the entire thing, I was the one who chose to honour God. I stayed when biblically I had grounds to leave. I stayed because I WANTED TO MAKE THINGS WORK.. because I loved him. Only to find out he never loved me.. ever!
That is not what God intened marriage to be. My marriage was a lie.. a sham. I'm glad I'm free of it now, because I know I'm worth more than that. I don't know if I'll ever re-marry, but if I do, I will seek only God for wisdom in that matter, not people in a public forum who choose to condemn others, on situations they know NOTHING about.
Not every situation is black and white. So, sorry.. I think the statement that 'when divorced people re-marry they are committing adultery, all the time...every day' is very cruel and unjustified. Comments like this only show your lack of knowledge and sensitivity. I think it best people who are ill-informed, refrain from making blanket statements about topics they clearly don't understand.
If my husband didn't love me, and never did, and was unfaithful and constantly condemned me for not being 'good enough' (in various different ways).
If he refused to give me children, and refused to get a job to support us, and made us live bouncing between spare bedrooms at friends/families places.
If he had no desire to gain more spiritual knowledge or grow in faith. If he had no desire to be a 'leader'.
If he looked at porn, was unfaithful, and blamed me for his actions because I wasn't 'attractive' enough for him.. and THEN despite all this I stay.. and the one day he decides he no longer wants to be married.. then it must be MY fault?
So, you're saying despite all this. Despite that I was in a marriage that certainly wasn't as God intended marriage to be, a marriage without love, where I was devalued and belittled, where I was expected to work and support us, where I was the only one who wanted a spiritual input in the relationship.. that DESPITE all of that (even when I stayed until HE decided he no longer wanted to be married)... that if I met someone else who REALLY DID LOVE me, and chose to re-marry that I'd be committing adultery? I could write you a book about the issues I faced in my marriage (the ones listed above barely scratch the surface). I TRIED to make it work, I cried out to God.. but you cannot change a person who doesnt want to change. In the end he made his choice..I have to accept it and move on.
I find that a hard pill to swalliow since throughout the entire thing, I was the one who chose to honour God. I stayed when biblically I had grounds to leave. I stayed because I WANTED TO MAKE THINGS WORK.. because I loved him. Only to find out he never loved me.. ever!
That is not what God intened marriage to be. My marriage was a lie.. a sham. I'm glad I'm free of it now, because I know I'm worth more than that. I don't know if I'll ever re-marry, but if I do, I will seek only God for wisdom in that matter, not people in a public forum who choose to condemn others, on situations they know NOTHING about.
Not every situation is black and white. So, sorry.. I think the statement that 'when divorced people re-marry they are committing adultery, all the time...every day' is very cruel and unjustified. Comments like this only show your lack of knowledge and sensitivity. I think it best people who are ill-informed, refrain from making blanket statements about topics they clearly don't understand.
If they cheated on you with someone or looked at porn or any sexual immorality, you can get a divorce and remarry. I would like to add that I voted that if God agrees with the divorce then you can remarry. Adultery is cheating during marriage not when single. The reason remarriage is adultery can only be that God considers you still married to your first spouse and does not recognize your second marriage. This is because God does not recognize all divorces. Only the divorces God allows are recognized by God.But if God allows the divorce then you are no longer married to your first spouse and remarriage cannot be adultery because you are not married. Thus if God granted your divorce you are single and nothing you do is adultery (because adultery is cheating when married). Even the person who cheated can remarry because they are single now and it would not be adultery to remarry because God grants the divorce. The people the Bible says are commiting adultery are people who God did not grant a divorce and they remarried. They are still married to the first person and they are cheating by being with the second person. Someone mentioned being divorced by an unbeliever and not being bound. If an unbeliever divorces you for your beliefs you can remarry. I believe you can remarry because it says you are not bound and once again if God allows and recognizes the divorce then remarriage is allowed as well.
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I don't see that anywhere in Matt 5:32, nor 19:9. Jesus said those who commit such are living in adutery. paul tells us no adulterer will enter the kingdom of heaven. He also tells us grace is not a covering for sin. If one is living in adultery, they need to repent and be made right with God so His grace can be effective - II Cor 6:2, Heb 10:26.
Rom 6:1 shall we continue in sin that grace may abound?
Rom 6:2 Certianly not, how shall we who are dead to sin live any longer theirn.
Heb 13:4 Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge
II Cor 6:1 And working together with him we entreat also that ye receive not the grace of God in vain
Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more a sacrifice for sins
Rom 6:1 shall we continue in sin that grace may abound?
Rom 6:2 Certianly not, how shall we who are dead to sin live any longer theirn.
Heb 13:4 Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge
II Cor 6:1 And working together with him we entreat also that ye receive not the grace of God in vain
Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more a sacrifice for sins
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(Matt 19:
Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.” 10 The disciples said to him, “If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry.”
11 Jesus replied, “Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”
Couple things here-
1. Remarriage is adultery, except in the cases of sexual immorality.
2. Marriage is NOT FOR EVERYONE. It requires a kind of commitment not everyone is capable of. It is a lifetime covenant that no man can undo...not even a lawyer.
For some reason we all believe that we deserve happiness and that happiness comes in the form of a wonderful marriage. See this for the lie that it is.
I understand the anger at these words. I understand feeling like you're being 'condemned' by Christians. But this is what the Bible teaches. It's nothing to do with me. Please recognize that you got upset and aired your dirty laundry on this forum...it was not brought up by anyone but you.
Clearly nothing was directed at you, personally, but it struck a chord with you as a personal attack, even though it's totally Biblical. Think about that.
Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.” 10 The disciples said to him, “If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry.”11 Jesus replied, “Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”
Couple things here-
1. Remarriage is adultery, except in the cases of sexual immorality.
2. Marriage is NOT FOR EVERYONE. It requires a kind of commitment not everyone is capable of. It is a lifetime covenant that no man can undo...not even a lawyer.
For some reason we all believe that we deserve happiness and that happiness comes in the form of a wonderful marriage. See this for the lie that it is.
I understand the anger at these words. I understand feeling like you're being 'condemned' by Christians. But this is what the Bible teaches. It's nothing to do with me. Please recognize that you got upset and aired your dirty laundry on this forum...it was not brought up by anyone but you.
Clearly nothing was directed at you, personally, but it struck a chord with you as a personal attack, even though it's totally Biblical. Think about that.
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Yah repenting is for all sins. I didn't think I had to say it. There is no condemnation for those in Christ. So after you have gotten a divorce and repented nothing else needs to be said. And for Christians God's grace is effective whether we repent or not. We SHOULD repent, but lack of repentance does not voice God's grace. Yes, according to the verse no adulterers will enter heaven. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11- Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
So yes it does say they won't get to heaven, but it also reminds us that all of us were like that till Christ saved us
So yes it does say they won't get to heaven, but it also reminds us that all of us were like that till Christ saved us