God Is Love Requires More Than One Person in the Godhead

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hermanodaniel

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C. S. Lewis:

All sorts of people are fond of repeating the Christian statement that ‘God is love.’ But they seem not to notice that the words ‘God is love’ have no real meaning unless God contains at least two Persons. Love is something that one person has for another person. If God was a single person, then before the world was made, He was not love. (Mere Christianity [revised and enlarged edition, HarperSanFrancisco, 2001], ch. 2; pp. 160-161.

Richard of St. Victor, a 12th century Scottish theologian ministering in France, put it like this:

One never says that someone properly possesses love if he only loves himself; for it to be true love, it must go out towards another. Consequently, where a plurality of persons is lacking, it is impossible for there to be love. (De Trinitate, III.2)

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God Is Love Requires More Than One Person in the Godhead – Justin Taylor
 
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God Is Love Requires More Than One Person in the Godhead.

This statement by itself is so beautiful and true.
 
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The Godhead was in Jesus!
 
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exodus 3;14,,,,,,,,,,"i am that i am",,,,,depends on which interpretation one uses but also is sometimes interpreted as "i am who i am",,,,,,,,,but the wording from the scriptures of 1john 4;8,,1john 4;13,,,,,,and 1john 4;16 we see a "difference",,,,,,in the wording used,,,,4;8 uses the words god is love "as a noun",the person ,,,,,,,,,in verse 12 "if we love" which is a verb or an "act",,,,,,,,god dwelleth in us,,,,,,,,"and his love",,,,,,,,again a verb or an "act",,now verse 16,,,"believed the love",,,,,,,,,,,"that god has sent us",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"that god has sent us",,,,now backtrack to verse 10,,,,,,,,,,,see the bibles definition,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"herein is love,not that we loved god,but that he loved us and sent his son to be the propitiation for our sins",,,,,,,,,,,this is important go back to verse 3,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,because the opposite of it is the definition of an "antichrist",,,,,,,,,,,every spirit,,ect.ect.confesseth not,,,Christ is come in the flesh ,,,,,,,,,,,"is not of god",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,notice that "john who also wrote john,rev.2 john,ect.,,,,,,is who wrote this,,,,,,,so borrow from his own ways of thinking (look at his other books),,,,,,,,,,"john 1;1;-14",,,,,,,,,,,,,,in the beginning was the word and the word was with god and was god,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,14 and the word became flesh and dwelt among us",,,,,,,,"the word/love",,,,,,,,,,he's using them interchangeable,,,,,,,,,"the word was god,,,,,,,,,,god is love",,,,,,,,,,,whats the word?????????????????now look at exodus 3;14,,,,,,,,"i am that i am",,,,,,,,that is he is the "self existing one",,,,,no one created him,,,,,,he existed weather the creation was created or not,,,,,,,,,he created the creation to be loved by him because he was love,,,,,,,,,his will was to love you,,,,,,,his work was to create you for him to love,,,he is love,,,,,,,his works are love,,,,,,,,,the law he gave you was to love,,,,,,,love the father with all thy heart and soul,,,,,,,,,love thy neighbor,,,,,love thy enemy,,,,,,,,,,love thy children love thy wife,,,,,,,,,love the poor,,,,,,,,love the widow,(the wife of the devil whose husband is dead in the blood),,,,,,,,,,there is the head on a coin and on the other-side,the tail,,,,,,,,,there is day and there is night,,,,,,,,there is up and there is down,,,,,the head of a coin cannot be called if there is an head on both sides of a coin,,,,,,,there is no day if there is no night,,,,,,,,,there is no up if there is no down,,,,,,,,,these things are "omnelogical",,,,,,,,that is one cannot exist without the other,,,,,yet on the other hand,,,,,,there is love without hatred,,,,,,,,,,that is the lord and the saints and the angels of the most high will exist in that day,,,,,,,,,,and the hatred and the devil and the fallen ones will not,,,,,,,,,"the opposite of love is not the Christ,or the holy spirit",,,,,,,,,,,,"they are the same,1john4;15",,,,,,,"i am not separate from my god,he had me in his stone from the beginning before the creation and love came and loved me",,,,,,,,,,,and i am in the midst of loving you,,,
 
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pit these two not against the other,,,,,,,,,god and the son,,,,,,,,,god and the son and the spirit,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the opposite of these is "hatred",and the devil and samjasah,,,,,,,and asomoth,,,,,,
 
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Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Joh 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Joh 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Love-two types (i wont mention mistaken erotic)
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Joh 21:15 So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest (agape...GODS love) thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love (phileo-mans love ,emotion, etc) thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs.

Gods love and mans love is translated into one in the scriptures..Gods love is only possible by the spirit of GOD (Holy Ghost,Comforter etc)
Peter at this time was still old test natural man...thats why Jesus reenforced the question .. natural mans love will fail...deny three times etc..but when he was converted acts 2....he recieved the full gabbit of Gods gifts of the SPIRIT and stood boldly and unafraid now (and showed Gods love to all around) by telling them how to get saved....2.38......

too love someone is to give God to that one..God is Love...Jesus made a way to obtain and enter into it...accept it ..its free unmerited.Grace...do it!!

Ro 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
 
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God IS love... in His own singular self-subsistence/-existence. "Person" is an English rendering of hupostasis. God is ONE of those according to Heb. 1:3; and the Son is the express image OF THAT hupostasis, NOT another hupostasis.

Love is ontological. Inherent. It doesn't have to be expressed to exist; just as God's Logos didn't have to be expressed to exist.

CS Lewis and the OP have deduced incorrectly and built yet another fallacious extension to the faulty foundation and of man's erroneous Trinity doctrine.
 
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God is Love, God is a Spirit ( John 4 v 24). But in the same Context We Humans see a " Family" of Father, s
Son, Holy Ghost is not that it all....They are Manifestations/ Offices of The One Lord One God. It is' nt " Daddy" sent "Junior"to be crucified for us, and " Daddy" just sat on the throne and Would not come here himself. God simply Created The Body Jesus, which was God Manifested in The Flesh ( AI Timothy 3 v 16. He used The Holy Ghost ( His Spirit) to create himself in a Human form through the Body of Mary. God could have created himself in a Human Body without using Mary......Read in Genesis 18 where The Lord appeared to Abraham and Sarah on the plains of Mamre. You will notice " The Lord" appeared in Human form with his two angels.....Notice They Ate Food....3 Normally Spirit Forms can do this if God
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That is called a " Theopony" ( Instant Manifesting in Human Form) They could and were able, so they were not Spirits, rather Instant Humanity if you will. Did God call his Theopony " Son"?....Did Jesus pre- exist in Heaven as many Believe as some teach..
No Sir!....Who was God then Speaking too in Genesis 1 v 26..." Let us make man......" I know the answer...and will answer it after we cover more ground.... needed.
 
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Rickee said:
God is Love, God is a Spirit ( John 4 v 24). But in the same Context We Humans see a " Family" of Father, s
Son, Holy Ghost is not that it all....They are Manifestations/ Offices of The One Lord One God. It is' nt " Daddy" sent "Junior"to be crucified for us, and " Daddy" just sat on the throne and Would not come here himself. God simply Created The Body Jesus, which was God Manifested in The Flesh ( AI Timothy 3 v 16. He used The Holy Ghost ( His Spirit) to create himself in a Human form through the Body of Mary. God could have created himself in a Human Body without using Mary......Read in Genesis 18 where The Lord appeared to Abraham and Sarah on the plains of Mamre. You will notice " The Lord" appeared in Human form with his two angels.....Notice They Ate Food....3 Normally Spirit Forms can do this if God
allows it.
That is called a " Theopony" ( Instant Manifesting in Human Form) They could and were able, so they were not Spirits, rather Instant Humanity if you will. Did God call his Theopony " Son"?....Did Jesus pre- exist in Heaven as many Believe as some teach..
No Sir!....Who was God then Speaking too in Genesis 1 v 26..." Let us make man......" I know the answer...and will answer it after we cover more ground.... needed.
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Please share with us as to whom He was talking to.
 
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The God Head is explained in 1Cor 11:3....shows position to God ......you dont see a God head on the Throne
 
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hermanodaniel said:
C. S. Lewis:

All sorts of people are fond of repeating the Christian statement that ‘God is love.’ But they seem not to notice that the words ‘God is love’ have no real meaning unless God contains at least two Persons. Love is something that one person has for another person. If God was a single person, then before the world was made, He was not love. (Mere Christianity [revised and enlarged edition, HarperSanFrancisco, 2001], ch. 2; pp. 160-161.

Richard of St. Victor, a 12th century Scottish theologian ministering in France, put it like this:

One never says that someone properly possesses love if he only loves himself; for it to be true love, it must go out towards another. Consequently, where a plurality of persons is lacking, it is impossible for there to be love. (De Trinitate, III.2)

Source:
God Is Love Requires More Than One Person in the Godhead – Justin Taylor
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I believe there is one God who simultaneously is a Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, just as a man can simultaneously be a father, son, and husband.

God loves US.
 
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There is no scripture to suggest God is anything more then who HE claimes He is in Psalms 83:18 To believe what isnt written was also done by the Pagans
 
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