Full/Hyper-Preterism Refuted - Video - Heresy Of Hyper-Preterism

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There is a heretical/unorthodox teaching in Bible eschatology called ''hyper-preterism'' or ''full preterism''.

It basically teaches that ALL Bible prophecy has been fulfilled.

The messengers of this heresy are found all over the place online. Some of them probably live on their keyboards. So you may come across them now, or in the future.

They know the Bible well, and anyone interested, should know how to refute them.

The below series of videos are very extensive. You probably won't view them in one sitting. The only ones capable of such endurance at their keyboard and computer are hyper-preterists. lol


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Full Preterism Refuted - Part 1 - YouTube

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enochson

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How are you I think I will side with the pretersism
 
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enochson

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ANOTHER WORD I'LL TAKE CHRIST AT HIS WORD "IT IS FINISH" ball game over done deal.
 
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loveme1

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The Bible is an active Book.

If people believe it "already happened" they will not be keeping watch and may be deceived.......

It is dangerous and can only come from one place to teach people it is "Fulfilled"

Glory to Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah forever and ever, so let it be.
 
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I am always amazed at all the braches of belief that sprout out and away from the scriptures.
May we always remember that we have no life as branches unless we remain atached to the vine. (Jesus!)
For he will not allow any to be taken from His hand, and He is our only teacher.
He will not fail us, not abandon us.
May we all always remain in His presance and care.
For no one can enter the kingdom of heaven but through Jesus!

God bless
pickles
 
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Repentantnut

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Indeed lets stay attached to our Savior. Bible prophecy are being fullfilled. If all prophecies were already fullfilled we would not be here. either heaven or hell. I just pray the Lord grants discernment and wisdom to us and that he brings these false teachers to repentance. When I read that the annointing (the Spirit) would teach me all things, I kinda stuck to Him and me first, then the others and.... woe to men that put their trust into men. So that sums it up.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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enochson said:
ANOTHER WORD I'LL TAKE CHRIST AT HIS WORD "IT IS FINISH" ball game over done deal.
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When jesus made this statement he spoke of the plan of salvation being finished. Not prophesy. He spoke of prophesy which had of not yet been fulfilled AFTER he rose from the dead, and told us to be watchful. for when we "see these things" or in other words, when you see these Prophesies which are yet to occure.
 
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enochson

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eternally-gratefull said:
When jesus made this statement he spoke of the plan of salvation being finished. Not prophesy. He spoke of prophesy which had of not yet been fulfilled AFTER he rose from the dead, and told us to be watchful. for when we "see these things" or in other words, when you see these Prophesies which are yet to occure.
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I think you need to look up the greek word which was spoken it means the whole of everything nothing is let to be done finished. Please don't speak on a matter if you haven't look it up.
 
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enochson

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pickles said:
I am always amazed at all the braches of belief that sprout out and away from the scriptures.
May we always remember that we have no life as branches unless we remain atached to the vine. (Jesus!)
For he will not allow any to be taken from His hand, and He is our only teacher.
He will not fail us, not abandon us.
May we all always remain in His presance and care.
For no one can enter the kingdom of heaven but through Jesus!

God bless
pickles
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Jesus is root not the vine. And He has never abandon us he fullfill us.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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enochson said:
I think you need to look up the greek word which was spoken it means the whole of everything nothing is let to be done finished. Please don't speak on a matter if you haven't look it up.
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I think you need to study the word of God. And check your attitude!

Nothing needs to be done to save us you are correct.

But not all prophesy is yet completed. Not all prophesy had to do with ones salvation. There were prophesies concerning the nation of Israel, The gentile nations, and things which will happen at the end before Christ returned. These prophesies had NOTHING to do with the salvation of anyone soul. and there are some which have not yet occurred. Even Jesus said this, as you have been shown.
 
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enochson

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Repentantnut said:
Indeed lets stay attached to our Savior. Bible prophecy are being fullfilled. If all prophecies were already fullfilled we would not be here. either heaven or hell. I just pray the Lord grants discernment and wisdom to us and that he brings these false teachers to repentance. When I read that the annointing (the Spirit) would teach me all things, I kinda stuck to Him and me first, then the others and.... woe to men that put their trust into men. So that sums it up.
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Not if the rapture doctrine is the lie (which it is) and hell isn't what you think it is. I think you need to study these thing for yourself instead of speaking the lies you have hear about.
 
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enochson

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eternally-gratefull said:
I think you need to study the word of God. And check your attitude!

Nothing needs to be done to save us you are correct.

But not all prophesy is yet completed. Not all prophesy had to do with ones salvation. There were prophesies concerning the nation of Israel, The gentile nations, and things which will happen at the end before Christ returned. These prophesies had NOTHING to do with the salvation of anyone soul. and there are some which have not yet occurred. Even Jesus said this, as you have been shown.
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70 ad it was forefill done. my attitude I'm not the one who start the attack on bothers and sisters that don't believe your treaching is true.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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70 ad it was forefill done.
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that is only part of prophesy filfilled, there are many more.

plus think what you said, you said Jesus said it is finished so it is all done, 70 AD occurred after Jesus said those words. this should help you rethink your position about what you claimed.
 
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enochson

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eternally-gratefull said:
that is only part of prophesy filfilled, there are many more.

plus think what you said, you said Jesus said it is finished so it is all done, 70 AD occurred after Jesus said those words. this should help you rethink your position about what you claimed.
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Not at all When Jesus said it was done 70 ad was done everything was done. He is the begianing and the end the frist and last. Do you beelieve anything he said?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Not at all When Jesus said it was done 70 ad was done everything was done. He is the begianing and the end the frist and last. Do you beelieve anything he said?
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lol. When he said it is finished. 70 AD had not yet happened.

I believe everything he said. When he said it was done, the plan of salvation was completed. Nothing can be added to what Christ did.

But when he said there will be great tribulation and if he did not return to stop it, no flesh would service, and we see this was not even possible until the middle of the 20th century. And the mere fact Christ has not returned yet, we can know all prophesy has not been fulfilled, thus would not be a preterist.
 
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enochson

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eternally-gratefull said:
lol. When he said it is finished. 70 AD had not yet happened.

I believe everything he said. When he said it was done, the plan of salvation was completed. Nothing can be added to what Christ did.

But when he said there will be great tribulation and if he did not return to stop it, no flesh would service, and we see this was not even possible until the middle of the 20th century. And the mere fact Christ has not returned yet, we can know all prophesy has not been fulfilled, thus would not be a preterist.
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You mean running out of jerusalem in 70 ad when it was sack and burn down and the temple was taken down one stone at a time and jesus was seen over the city in the air don't count?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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You mean running out of jerusalem in 70 ad when it was sack and burn down and the temple was taken down one stone at a time and jesus was seen over the city in the air don't count?
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Jesus was seen? By who??

Did jesus come and take control? no.

has the wars and desolations stopped? no

has the abomination which causes desolation occured? No.

yes 70 AD happened. AFTER jesus said it is finished. so whats your argument? Your whole argument is destroyed by your own comments about 70 AD
 
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loveme1

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Matthew 24

29Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
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YAHVAH GOD and YAHSHUA the MESSIAH ,thank you for giving us this because while the sun is shining, and the moon gives its light,and the stars were still above me in the sky last night.... how can they say it is all fulfilled?
 
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enochson

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eternally-gratefull said:
Jesus was seen? By who??

Did jesus come and take control? no.

has the wars and desolations stopped? no

has the abomination which causes desolation occured? No.

yes 70 AD happened. AFTER jesus said it is finished. so whats your argument? Your whole argument is destroyed by your own comments about 70 AD
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By a jew who wasn't a christian that wrote a book call jewish histroy he was a genral at one time I forget what page it was on. not at all you think something has to be natural to be forfill I believe it just has to be spoken by god.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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By a jew who wasn't a christian that wrote a book call jewish histroy he was a genral at one time I forget what page it was on. not at all you think something has to be natural to be forfill I believe it just has to be spoken by god.
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so lets trust something not in scripture? wow and one man? jesus said we all will see jesus coming in the clouds. Not one man..

If God says it will happen, it will happen. if it does not, God lied. So why are you making God a liar when God says these things will happen which have not happened yet?
 
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