Are muslims really worshiping satan?

[Sharp]

Lindqvist

No-one is declaring holy wars, and no-one is saying that we hate muslims.

Yes this topic is divisive, and I regret that, as this thread has gone well beyond the point of usefulness.

We can discuss thousands of years of religious history, but I just want to say this. Jesus is God. Jesus isn't just 33.333% of God - Jesus is more than just a component of God. Jesus IS God. If you TRULY know Jesus, who is God, you'll realise that He isn't the being that the muslims worship. You'll realise that the characteristics of God don't match those of the muslim interpretation of god. And God doesn't intercept their misguided prayers because its "close enough". You're either praying to God or you're not.

And for me, its not a case of proving things using "science" and "logic". Its just a case of knowing God and his love, which transcends all knowledge and understanding.

 

[sisterren11492]

By know means are we as Christians are to hate anyone. We are to love, bless and do good unto our enemies. Jesus is the One True God. Amen!

 

[watchmen]

Lindqvist

No-one is declaring holy wars, and no-one is saying that we hate muslims.

Yes this topic is divisive, and I regret that, as this thread has gone well beyond the point of usefulness.

We can discuss thousands of years of religious history, but I just want to say this. Jesus is God. Jesus isn't just 33.333% of God - Jesus is more than just a component of God. Jesus IS God. If you TRULY know Jesus, who is God, you'll realise that He isn't the being that the muslims worship. You'll realise that the characteristics of God don't match those of the muslim interpretation of god. And God doesn't intercept their misguided prayers because its "close enough". You're either praying to God or you're not.

And for me, its not a case of proving things using "science" and "logic". Its just a case of knowing God and his love, which transcends all knowledge and understanding.

Yes sharp anyone that truly knows Jesus knows that He is not the same god that the Mulsims worship, even a Muslim himself would tell you that.

 

[watchmen]

By know means are we as Christians are to hate anyone. We are to love, bless and do good unto our enemies. Jesus is the One True God. Amen!

Amen........

 

[christlover]

To beware of false prophets
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
To be doers of the word
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Matt 7:15-23

look at the verst 22, "Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?"

...you know why the Lord said, " they'll say to me ....." cause he is God, and they didn't know him, so the bible tells us the truth....muslims are these people who need to know the real God....we have to pray for them...God helpes us to do this with our hearts open to you...amen!
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[imoss]

I dont think they worship satan... they worship God as they know him to be, so to call them satanists is a mistake. My God differs from their God as my God has a Son.

 

[MahogonySnail]

Imoss if they don't have the Son, they dont' have the Father. It's that simple. What do you mean your God and their God? There is only One God.

 

[imoss]

They think they have God, they dont seek to worship satan. They lack Christ but this doesnt make them satanists in spite of the great pleasure i'm sure they give satan in their disbelief. My God has a Son tells them that NO this is not the same entity... If they believe in the one true God they should believe in ALL of God including that he came in the flesh. I'm not sure how that confused you.

 

[MahogonySnail]

Unfortunately satan transforms himself into an angel of light. Even all the good religions of this world like moderate Islam, Buddhism, Hare Krishna movement and others, despite their good intentions, follow the angel of light. There's only two sides in this world, light and darkness. Only those who belong to the Son belong to the light, the rest are in darkness, not matter how good their intentions may be or how good their religion appear. If they don't have God they have satan by default. Satanism appears in many forms. It is not all about ouji boards and pentagrams and sacrificing small animals. Satan's thoughts come from man not from God, and because satan is a deceiver and they have been deceived, then yes they have followed satan and worshipped (given worth), to him.

 

[imoss]

i re-read my post & can see where I may have inadvertantly indicated a validity to their belief's by stating "their God". Yes there is one God only.

 

[Cup-of-Ruin]

By know means are we as Christians are to hate anyone. We are to love, bless and do good unto our enemies. Jesus is the One True God. Amen!

Matt 10:34

"Think not that I came to bring peace on the earth, I came not to send peace but the sword of division."

Luke. 14:26

"If any man come to Me and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea even his own life, he cannot be My disciple."

Christianity has never been a pacifist religion.

 

[Cup-of-Ruin]

Imoss if they don't have the Son, they dont' have the Father. It's that simple. What do you mean your God and their God? There is only One God.

It is indeed that simple 'Snail, in fact that is really the entire crux of the Bible, if one says that the Muslims or the Jews have and worship the Father than Jesus comes to nothing, His blood unworthy and His incarnation as Saviour and His dying and His descent into Hell and His ressurrection all becomes valueless, meaningless! If one does not understand that it was unversally fundementally important that God become manifest in our physical realm in human flesh as the seed of David to volunteer His own life and Divine blood, if one does not understand that we would not even have a universe right now if Jesus had not achieved what He did, then you do not understand anything about God, nothing, God cannot be with you, which would leave you without God, and if your without God, then you must be decieved, and the accuser, the great Deciever is Satan, if you do not have the Son, you do not have the Father- so if ye worship then without Jesus Christ because there is only One Mediator between God and man, and if you do not have Him, then you are worshipping Satan.

 

[frames]

Very often, Islam is associated with jihad or "holy war", according to Mansfield,
the term jihad actually means "striving" or "exerting" oneself in the way of God.

Extremists gives jihad a bad name and the Muslims suffers for it unfairly.

 

[frames]

Judaism, Christianity and Islam.
Monotheistic Religions

For them "There is only One True God" -

while the people around them are into Idolatry or no faith at all.

 

[christlover]

here are some versets from the koran, believe me....I can't image that God said this.....this religion is very dangerous...read these versets taking from " at-tauba " ..the great source of terorisme .

9.5 . Then , when the sacred months have passed , slay the idolaters wherever ye find them , and take them ( captive ) , and besiege them , and prepare for them each ambush . But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor due , then leave their way free . Lo! Allah is Forgiving , Merciful

9.12 . And if they break their pledges after their treaty ( hath been made with you ) and assail your religion , then fight the heads of disbelief Lo! they have no binding oaths in order that they may desist

(...just like me now (cause they think I'm assailing theire religion), they have to kill me ....)

9.13 . Will ye not fight a folk who broke their solemn pledges , and purposed to drive out the messenger and did attack you first? What! Fear ye them? Now Allah hath more right that ye should fear Him , if ye are believers .

( ...here is this verset 9.13, the humain wrote it, the humain thinks, these are only the words of Mohamed to follow him...)

9.14 . Fight them! Allah will chastise them at your hands , and He will lay them low and give you victory over them , and He will heal the breasts of folk who are believers .

(.....this is very dangerous...think with me....Mohamed used the words of satan...)

9.20 . Those who believe , and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah ' s way are of much greater worth in Allah ' s sight . These are they who are triumphant .9.21 . Their Lord giveth them good tidings of mercy from Him , and acceptance , and Gardens where enduring pleasure will be theirs ;
9.22 . There they will abide for ever . Lo! with Allah there is immense reward .
(....the promise of paradis, realy ...a great mistake...only the humain words, and this person want to follow him...)

9.36 . Lo! the number of the months with Allah is twelve months by Allah ' s ordinance in the day that He created the heavens and the earth . Four of them are sacred : that is the right religion . So wrong not yourselves in them . And wage war on all the idolaters as they are waging war on all of you . And know that Allah is with those who keep their duty ( unto Him ) .

9.55 . So let not their riches nor their children please thee ( O Muhammad ) . Allah thereby intendeth but to punish them in the life of the world and that their souls shall pass away while they are disbelievers

....etc........

....and many other versets ..show violence, if these are the words of God, then I don't need this God, he is a layer ....I don't believe he realy created me.....SATAN WROTE THESE VERSETS, AND THEN ALL THE PEOPLE AROUND THE WORD ARE SUFFERING AND WILL SUFERRING FROM THE WORK OF SATAN.

God says,........LOVE YOUR ENEMIS.

God bless you ...amen!

 

[Elijah3]

Muslims do not realise that they are worshiping Satan. Some muslims will eventually accept the Truth that Allah is actually Satan, we christians have to search and minister to these people.

 

[WKK]

And for me, its not a case of proving things using "science" and "logic". Its just a case of knowing God and his love, which transcends all knowledge and understanding.

So you know without knowledge? Another claim that leads me to believe that the actual idolators are christians. Why are you so blind to the fact that your god is anthropomorphic?

 

[wwjd_kilden]

Matt 10:34

"Think not that I came to bring peace on the earth, I came not to send peace but the sword of division."

Luke. 14:26

"If any man come to Me and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea even his own life, he cannot be My disciple."

Christianity has never been a pacifist religion.

well, there is a difference between killing everyone who doesn't believe and just patting them on the shoulder

 

[Lindqvist]

"Unfortunately satan transforms himself into an angel of light. Even all the good religions of this world like moderate Islam, Buddhism, Hare Krishna movement and others, despite their good intentions, follow the angel of light. There's only two sides in this world, light and darkness. Only those who belong to the Son belong to the light, the rest are in darkness, not matter how good their intentions may be or how good their religion appear. If they don't have God they have satan by default. Satanism appears in many forms. It is not all about ouji boards and pentagrams and sacrificing small animals. Satan's thoughts come from man not from God, and because satan is a deceiver and they have been deceived, then yes they have followed satan and worshipped (given worth), to him."

No offense. But if doing good deeds and striving to improve humanity through peace and prosperity, accepting your fellow man, loving your neighbour, giving to poor, helping those that can't help themselves and accepting people no matter religion, race or creed is evil and satanism.
Then I'd rather be good in life and suffer eternal torment than feingning innocence while spreading hatred and condeming people.

 

[wwjd_kilden]

I see your point, but by that definition, ALL that don't believe the same as us as worshipping satan.

what if my view of God differs from yours? does that mean one of us follows satan?