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MEN & WOMEN: Agree or disagree with women preaching & leading in churches.Voters73. You have already voted on this poll
- Men: Agree
1520.55% - Men: Disagree
2432.88% - Women: Agree
26.03% - Women: Disagree
20.55%
Women: Agree
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This thread is in trouble from the git, because the poll question is in disagreement with the title of the thread...
Does God's Word authorize women as preachers is an ultimatum question.
But, the poll question is asking: Do you agree with a woman/women to be leading or preaching to men in churches? My answer, 'No, I do not agree.' But, the Lord leads and I sure do agree with how His Spirit may lead a certain, rare woman to pastor a church; for me, as I state earlier, it is going to be a situation like men abused by men or woman abused by men, so, God may, in some place, spiritedly lead A WOMAN TO PASTOR that church. - Quit playing God !! Scripture is clear. There is only one God
In answer to the first question, yes, it does authorize women as preachers, by virtue of naming women as not to be chosen over a man, or, women are not to speak over a man. Either way: one says that a woman should not be chosen to lead a church over a man, and, one says that a woman should not dominate what Paul is saying (through God's inspired words to Him, as are ALL words of Scripture, per what godrunner said, mentioning 2 Tim. 3:16 ) , or, for that matter what ANY man is trying to teach or show authority of a (given) situation in a church.
God authorizes men to be FIRST in control, but IF no man is going to stand in the gap, so to speak, then God will choose a woman. And, you better hope to dear God you don't smite that choice or you can go read Ezekiel and what happens to Israel when the Lord asks someone, ANYONE, to 'stand in the gap,' and no one stands uP
Anyone care to write in what happened next? Ezekiel chapter 22 or 23, to help you out
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By virtue of saying your say about the church of Thyatira and stopping at 'to teach,' ethen, you now show you don't understand the context, which is: to teach (over a man) or have authority over a man.
That's just stupid ridiculous to say that women are NEVER to teach a man anything , maybe, you are not a chauvinist pig male but, guess what, you say THIS ^ and you sure WILL sound like it
The church is to go in ORDER, why can't people understand this, WHAT could be made clearer in Scripture??
By NO means does God say that women can never preach or teach a man something, women have GREAT wisdom and they are made with the same likeness and image as man and have the SAME Holy Spirit in them as man. They are led just differently when it comes to relationship to others, usually. MOST women are to be under men's leadership in the church, ORDER, but to make a blanket statement and say that God cannot APPOINT a woman to pastor a church is stupid, not to mention, Scripture does AUTHORIZE that He APPOINTS us to different positions. Need I bring up that Scripture, or, the other homework I just gave someone can be to find the 'appoint' Scripture too
Plain and simple, CONTEXT ! I don't subscribe to the fact that Paul's opinions are not to be thought of any more than that. No ! All Scripture is inspired, for correction, reproof, etc. Again, read what verse godrunner posted, 2 Tim. 3:16 . YOU must interpret Scripture as He leads you, this is how I am led, it has zip, nada, zero to do with being right. I am simply His workmanship and I am being a wordsmith on 2 Tim. 2:11-15 and, very simply, women are to be in subjection to men, as being SECOND in the order, which, not so coincidentally, is why Paul
immediately! speaks of 'Adam formed first and then Eve.,' after having really said what could be considered a slavery, abomination, degrading, de-spiriting bunch of words from him in verses 12 AND 11 .
It is not to make women feel any less appreciated, they are FULLY appreciated by the men, for child-bearing and doing ministry work like Mary did for Paul, if you read Romans 16 last chapter, where Paul is lauding those who helped him in his cause to reach others with the gospel of Christ, 'course, I don't see where being an evangelist, like Mary was, I think, is having authority or teaching or preaching to men, it is just what the word says, 'evangelizing,' or, witnessing. But, again, can a woman teach a Sunday School to men? Absolutely. Can a woman have authority over a man IF there is no man to lead? Yes.
Nowhere in Scripture are the words: 'Women cannot preach or teach to men in a church.'
they are just SECOND in the order.
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